Are Moori & Kamui tips really worth the money or is it all hype?

Kickin' Chicken

Kick Shot Aficionado
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This is, of course, very subjective. Like, which color do you like more, blue or red?

So, there is no universal fit.

One thing to keep in mind though, how did all of the greats in our game manage prior to layered tips? Answer: Very well.

I have tried many, have played lots of years with Moori mediums which I really liked up until their consistency (authenticity?) became so questionable.

To my mind, the cheap-as-dirt Triangles, do the job perfectly fine.

I will admit being very impressed with the Kamui black soft tips, which to me, play just like the Moori mediums of old, but the Kamui's don't mushroom. :thumbup:

In summary, for me, subjectively, I like the color blue, Triangle tips, and for layered tips, Kamui blacks.

Best,
Brian kc
 
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Matt_24

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I used Moori's for years and switched to Kamuis. I love them. You just have to experiment and see what works for you. I have friends that swear by Le Pros. Different strokes...
 

Nick B

This is gonna hurt
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Tips for me are like shoes. Yes you can walk around in $40 dress shoes and say what's the difference but whats comfort worth? Like anything else their are diminishing returns. $200 shoes feel good. $400 shoes feel great...past that you can't buy much better.

I have had some Elk Masters that once pressed and played with for 10 hours play great. A lot do not and are instant cut aways. Moori's and Kumai's are great tips. The others I don't care for. They are either too inconsistent or have poor quality (read delam etc). The provider's say that it's an installation problem but I disagree. Both are almost impossible to hurt. Snipers and others if you look at them wrong fall apart and play differently through their lifetime. For $10~$30 I expect more.

Hey some guys like "BIG" girls...they are not for me.
 
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cueman

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I think both are worth the money. They have their own unique features. And every player needs or wants something a little different. I will also say that there are many other tips out there that are also worth what they cost. Tiger makes some excellent products that are also worth what they cost. So does Tweeten for that matter. There are synthetic tips like the Ninja and the old Future tips that are worth the money. But not one of these tips will please everyone. Some will hate one tip and love another tip and the next player will love the one the other player hated. I have yet to find even the perfect tip for me, as it seems every tip has pluses and minuses.
 
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JoeyInCali

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I used Moori's for years and switched to Kamuis. I love them. You just have to experiment and see what works for you. I have friends that swear by Le Pros. Different strokes...

Kamui MS is preeeettty good.
 

caromcorner

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I dropped Moori's a long time ago and have been searching for just the right tip for me. Reason being I actually went through 4 Moori's in less than 2 months because of mushrooming, glazing and miscueing constantly. I was fed up with the CRAP! I'm a 3-Cushion Billiard player and LOVE the Kamui II Black Mediums. I put a new tip on about 2 months ago and it STILL has NOT mushroomed (and i'm known to have a lot of power in my stroke)!!
 

Mr. Wiggles

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Future tip

I think both are worth the money. They have their own unique features. And every players needs or wants something a little different. I will also say that there are many other tips out there that are also worth what they cost. Tiger makes some excellent products that are also worth what they cost. So does Tweeten for that matter. There are synthetic tips like the Ninja and the old Future tips that are worth the money. But not one of these tips will please everyone. Some will hate one tip and love another tip and the next player will love the one the other player hated. I have yet to find even the perfect tip for me, as it seems every tip has pluses and minuses.
They still make the Future tip? Wow. Haven't heard about them for 20 years. Loved the Future tip but they all fell off, some the first night. Gave up on them. Spent more time and gas than the tip cost. Maybe bad installer huh? They were plastic as I remember, wonder if they have made adjustments or are they exactly the same as in the past. Gotta go google Future tip!
 

jmurphy

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I am currently using a Kamui Black "S" I like it but let me ask you guys this question. Do any of you ever have the Kamui or Moori tips cut down during installation? I like my Kamui Black "S" but the damn thing looks like I have a "top hat" sitting on the end of my cue..LOL
 

btoneill

Keeper of the Cheese
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I am currently using a Kamui Black "S" I like it but let me ask you guys this question. Do any of you ever have the Kamui or Moori tips cut down during installation? I like my Kamui Black "S" but the damn thing looks like I have a "top hat" sitting on the end of my cue..LOL

Mine was cut down just a little bit... Still looks like a pencil eraser :)
 

ridewiththewind

♥ Hippie Hustler ♥
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When I used layered tips, yes, I would get them cut down...hate having a skyscraper sitting on the end of my cue. However, I do not use layered tips anymore...finally settled on Mike Johnson's (Jensen Cues) Milk Duds and haven't looked back since. Just a super great playing, long-lasting tip at a fair price.

Lisa
 

KSwiss10

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Kamui Black Super Soft

I used to play with a moori medium and loved it. When it finally wore out the guy at the pro shop said I should check out the Kamui. I bought and Kamui Black Super Soft and absolutely love it. I will never use anything else. I really have noticed a big difference in how much english i can apply and how much easier it is to control.
 

SK Custom Cues

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In my shop, I carry nothing but Kamui Black. They are worth every penny and then some. I am so confident in them that I offer a 100% guarantee.

They are the Mercedes Benz of tips.
 

Dudley

english happy
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I am currently using a Kamui Black "S" I like it but let me ask you guys this question. Do any of you ever have the Kamui or Moori tips cut down during installation? I like my Kamui Black "S" but the damn thing looks like I have a "top hat" sitting on the end of my cue..LOL

Yeah if you don't take them down they're pretty big. That just means they will last that much longer though. :)
 

richiebalto

AzB Silver Member
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Shuff drove a 200 round trip to get the tip he wanted a couple days before the us open,i cant believe he could not find the morri tip he wanted in virginia,so he came up to baltimore to get what he needed.so there just might be something about a certain tip.
 

DeepBanks

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You got that right . . .

I'm sticking with Snipers and unless by chance the quality turns I won't be switching any time soon.

As with anything else some are worth the money and some are all hype.


I've been using Sniper and the Tiger Emerald for about a year. The Sniper truly stands apart from most tips - It's friggin' Awesome . . . this guy uses 'em too.
 

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Kamuitipsdotcom

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HI. You can "fine tune" the tip by taking a layer off... or 2. A Kamui that is too close to the ferrule will not give you the "elasticity" in the tip... Which means you should go to the next harder tip. Look at the elasticity chart on the home page. http://www.kamuitips.com
Keep me updated on your experience with the tip. There is a Kamui for every player. Playability and Consistency is the purpose for Kamui to be in business... Not hype. Good luck! Happy New Year!

I am currently using a Kamui Black "S" I like it but let me ask you guys this question. Do any of you ever have the Kamui or Moori tips cut down during installation? I like my Kamui Black "S" but the damn thing looks like I have a "top hat" sitting on the end of my cue..LOL
 

poolplayer2093

AzB Silver Member
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There are a lot of layered tips on the market is it all hype?
$20 for a tip or $5 for a Tiger Emerald layered tip?
What is hype and what is the real deal?

i really hated the emerald tips. they feel cheap and mushy like they're going to fall apart on me
 

Kid Dynomite

Dennis (Michael) Wilson
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i have several cues with several different tips on them! I noticed it was hurting my game and consistency! I have been playing for 30 years and played with old lepro's! So, I found several boxes of old lepro tips and held onto them for dear life! I recently switched all my cues and shafts to lepro and I am committed to these tips at this point!

I got a tip from my installer to try it was a Super Pro Tip and he put one on for me. The first day it played AWESOME! it just started to harden up on me and I noticed my preference for the slightly softer lepro!

I was so impressed with the Super Pro Tips I immediately bought 2 boxes and hit AZBilliards forum for reviews! If left SUPER HIGH the Super Pro tips are the best out bar none!!!!

To this day my best tip ever was a moori medium on a old Ted Harris cue he made for me! He left it super high and boy that thing moved the cue ball like it was on a string!

I really think most installers and consumers are shotting themselves in the foot by chopping half of the tip off during the install! psychologically, players and installers are convinced the tip should not be that high!!! But, i think that is where they are wrong!

NEXT TIME TRY YOUR TIPS SUPER HIGH!!!!!!

Kid Dynomite
 
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