At the End of the 14.1 World

[sjm]

Well, when I'm wrong, I admit I was wrong. Johnnyt

In truth, JohnnyT, you sensed that a nine ball specialist could compete with the straight pool gurus, and, at least to a point, Bustamante poved you were right. If your instincts were wrong about how many balls the nine ball specialists would run, they were right that such players could be successful doing battle with those very well versed in 14.1.

 

[PoolBum]

Corey had 14.1 training from Jimmy Caras when he was sixteen. He has had numerous runs over a 100 so I would not consider him a 9 baller playing sgraight pool.

My answer to the original question is none

I don't think he meant in a tournament setting. I could be wrong, but I think he meant practicing for a week. It's very difficult to run a 100 in a race to 150, or even 200.

 

[Johnnyt]

I don't think he meant in a tournament setting. I could be wrong, but I think he meant practicing for a week. It's very difficult to run a 100 in a race to 150, or even 200.

Yes, that's what I meant. Thanks for getting me out of this. Johnnyt

 

[predator]

I think all of those players are 9ballers really with plenty of 14.1 expertise. For example, Niels is a great 14.1 player, possibly the best at the moment, but I bet he practices more 9ball than 14.1.

 

[NYC cue dude]

I think all of those players are 9ballers really with plenty of 14.1 expertise. For example, Niels is a great 14.1 player, possibly the best at the moment, but I bet he practices more 9ball than 14.1.

I'd bet you were wrong. If he's anything like the majority of other European players, while practicing alone, they almost exclusively practice 14.1.

As for johnny archer, I've played 14.1 with him on a few occasions, and he told me that it was the game of his father. He reveers the game so much, as blackjack stated, that when practicing alone, he only plays 14.1. He's been playing 14.1 his ENTIRE life.

Now, there is something to be said about 9ballers adjusting quickly to 14.1. I'd have to observe though, that it is more common for phillipinos to excel quicker. Santos plays an ugly game of str8 pool, but I've seen him beat tony robles. Warren kiamco, in his first 14.1 event at last years World's placed very high, but played similarly to how santos plays.

Bustamante has all of you fooled too. He is hardly a "novice" at 14.1. Although he hasn't entered any recognizable str8 pool events in the past, he played the game quite a bit while living in Germany, where 14.1 is the preferred game.

As far as the race to 100, the round robin (7 matches), are only the first round. It takes the 64 players 3days to completele the roughly 500 matches. Races are then extended to 150 in the dbl elimination round. Once down to 16 players, the tournament is a race to 200, with some matches exceeding 4 hours.

Randy

 

[tigerseye]

As a high run goes on, the mind grows weary. The elite have strengthened their minds to go and go and go - and that is what will separate them from the players that mostly play rotation games.


I have to disagree with you on the game of 14.1 being more difficult than rotation games. The reason and facts are that you hear of more 100+ runs in 14.1 than any 100+ runs in any rotation game. That is if you were saying that 14.1 players are better players than rotation players...if not i apologize completely....no harm no foul:thumbup:

 

[predator]

I'd bet you were wrong. If he's anything like the majority of other European players, while practicing alone, they almost exclusively practice 14.1

For sure, they devote a lot of practice time for 14.1, especially players from Germany and Netherlands, but majority of their time? Throughout the whole year even though Eurotour is all 9ball? We need to ask them...does anyone know for sure?

 

[Roy Steffensen]

For example, Line Kjorsvik. She plays 2 14-1 tournaments a year, the Norwegian 14-1 Championship and the European 14-1 Championship.

When she is practising she practise 80% of the time, maybe more, alone. Then it is either drills or 14-1. She has recently several runs of 60, 70 and one run of 82. She was invited to play in the World 14-1 Championship, but had to cancel because of a tight schedule.

I guess that the majority of the top players in Europe practise like Line Kjorsvik. Drills and 14-1.

 

[CueAndMe]

It takes the 64 players 3days to completele the roughly 500 matches.
Randy

Hi Randy. If I'm calculating correctly, I believe it's "only" 224 matches. There were 8 groups. In each group each player had to play 7 times, so 7x8=56. Divide that by 2 to account for two players at each match = 28.
So 28 matches per group times 8 groups = 224.
The only reason I know this is because early in the week I was wondering how many matches they had to squeeze in over 3 days.

 

[NYC cue dude]

I was incorrect in my match calculation. I needed to divide by 2. It was only 200+ matches.

Randy

 

[NYC cue dude]

For sure, they devote a lot of practice time for 14.1, especially players from Germany and Netherlands, but majority of their time? Throughout the whole year even though Eurotour is all 9ball? We need to ask them...does anyone know for sure?

I can speak definetively for souquet, Mika, engert and Thorsten, with whom in particular I played with 8 hours daily with for 2 years. As Roy stated, when not doing drills, (which isn't that often), these players practice 14.1 almost EXCLUSIVELY when alone. I admit that I am assuming about other European players following the habits ofthese great 14.1 artisans.

Randy

 

[inside_english]

"Son"???

Oh WW, if you only knew.....


Yikes

I don't agree with your signature, but I understand the sentiment. If these people were highly paid, then others would be taking up these professions for the wrong reason...money.

 

[cuetable]

I can't wait to see how many 100 and over runs the 9-ball players get in this tournament. I've played all the games and feel at their level of play 14.1 is the fastest to learn. I feel any top tier pro will run over a hundred the first week he plays it if he really tries. Johnnyt

Hi Johnny:

There is a charity tournament coming this weekend in Long Island, New York. Several pros from World 14.1 will be there.

For more details, please check

http://worldchampionsmiles.com/

 

[dmgwalsh]

14.1 practice

I can speak definetively for souquet, Mika, engert and Thorsten, with whom in particular I played with 8 hours daily with for 2 years.
Randy

You played 8 hours a day for 2 years?

With all of these guys or just some of them?

Pretty good training.

Did you do drills, play 14.1 or what??

What kind of drills do these 14.1 monsters do?

PAT type drills??

 

[NYC cue dude]

Im sorry, I thought I was clear. Thorsten is my best friend, and it was with him that I played everyday with.

90% of the time it was straight pool. We would play 9 ball preceeding any major tournament he played in. We even played tons of 8ball leading up to the IPT tournament he won. Just shows that you don't have to be world class to push an elite pro to get them into shape. LOL.

Randy