At what point is somebody a bonafide "player"?

ChrisWoj

Just some one eyed guy.
Silver Member
I think a real player is someone that fully dedicates themselves to getting better and to understanding the game.

I see a lot of league players who, just upon watching them play or speaking to them, you can tell only play pool as a hobby or as something to just "do."

However, I've met a few people who I would consider real players (some are SL 5s, others are SL 7s) because you can tell they are immersed in the game. I don't think you have to be a master of the table to be a real player - but if you aspire to be one someday and are willing to put in the time to be one then I consider them a real player.

If we are talking real players based on technical skill then I'd say it's in the way they shoot: steady rhythm, fearless shooter, strategic thinker, and can handle problems and clusters, or move through a rack pretty seamlessly. Most league players don't exhibit those qualities, but I think real players do noticeably exhibit these qualities.

-Richard
I like this definition. If only because by one half of it - I'm a player. And by the other half - I'm getting there (though like many of us, still not even close!).
 

ShootingArts

Smorg is giving St Peter the 7!
Gold Member
Silver Member
hard to define indeed

That 10 o'clock girl can usually give the 2 o'clock girl the five and the breaks, or 75 to 125 in straight pool all day long, plus she may even be a keeper. :thumbup:

I guess there are many measurements of a "real player". You may be a "real player" when a person who you consider a "real player" considers you one also.

It's also a bit like the supreme court judge who decided a major pornography case, he said something to the effect that "he couldn't describe pornography, but he knew it when he saw it". :smile:

Stay well.

Jim


Difference between a player and a hustler; the player steps into a strange place just looking for somebody that will bet what he wants to gamble for. The hustler is just looking for soft targets and he will take what he can get off of them as he works his way up the local ladder.

What you will bet somewhat indicates a player just like claiming price gives a pretty good idea of a horse's class most of the time. Not a hundred percent guaranteed but especially one pocket players tend to advertise their speed by what they will bet.

The respect of other players is a good answer too. Even if you aren't the best, the best know when you are in the place.

One of the hardest things for a player to conceal is how they move around the the table. A player can be banging balls into the rails practicing and playing terrible patterns but their mannerisms will still often give him or her away. Might be a hundred little things that says somebody has spent a lot of time at the tables.

Things are great thisaway, cutting brush. I have spent hours cutting brush, sitting here now thinking it takes a lot longer to pick up than to cut! Burning a ton and a half of grass cuttings right now, then I'll start on the brush. Life on the farm. Hope things are still rolling along good your way and the tennis courts are treating you kind too!

Hu
 

Skratch

AzB Silver Member
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I define it between casual and dedicated. Playing league teams, our team was once mentioned to be full of ringers. We told them, the difference was that we are pool players that play in a bar league. Most everyone else are bar people who play in pool league. Not to be snobbish, but just to point out our perspective. We are students of the game and trying to get better.
 

dognit26

SHOOT THIS from 14,000 ft
Silver Member
How many Bet $1000 of their own money ? Easy when it's someone else's.

Not necessarily, they usually need their end if they win. Also if they lose too often they loose their stake. Not to mention the pressure of being watched while you play with their money.
 

Banks

Banned
Well.......... Yeah........... :thumbup:
Thursday on my side of town?
Chuck

Hmm.. may have to do something on the weekend. After league tonight and tomorrow, not sure if I can convince the lady that a third night in a row is going to happen. I'll get back to you on this one.

On another note, it looks like I'll be starting a BCA division at the bar. I think the session begins in September.
 

RiverCity

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Hmm.. may have to do something on the weekend. After league tonight and tomorrow, not sure if I can convince the lady that a third night in a row is going to happen. I'll get back to you on this one.

On another note, it looks like I'll be starting a BCA division at the bar. I think the session begins in September.

Count me in
 

Jaden

"no buds chill"
Silver Member
I agree with this definition...

I wouldn't really define it by skill level. I would just say that it is someone who takes more than a passing or casual interest in the game. For example a couple playing pool while out on a date or some buddies playing some 8 ball on a night out doesn't make them pool players. They play once in a while. A lot of league players I would still consider in this level as well. They probably own a cue, never read about the game, never practice, don't know much about the physics or techniques nor ever cared to. I would say someone is a player once they really get into the game and try to get better. They want to play all the time and improve. They want to know about the equipment, the strategy, the fundamentals. They know about pro players. They know other pool games besides 8 ball and 9 ball. They have played on and like playing on 9 ft tables in real poolrooms rather than only 7ft tables in bars.

I could probably qualify as every definition of a player listed up to this post, with the exception of betting $1000 of my money on the game. I don't have $1000 to risk betting when I have a family to take care of (i.e. a wife that spends all my money) but I agree with the above definition...

Being a player is about your mindset toward the game. I don't think that wanting to play on 9 foots necessarily is a prerequisite, but not wanting to ONLY play on 7 foot bar boxes probably would be IMO...

Jaden
 

StraightPoolIU

Brent
Silver Member
I could probably qualify as every definition of a player listed up to this post, with the exception of betting $1000 of my money on the game. I don't have $1000 to risk betting when I have a family to take care of (i.e. a wife that spends all my money) but I agree with the above definition...

Being a player is about your mindset toward the game. I don't think that wanting to play on 9 foots necessarily is a prerequisite, but not wanting to ONLY play on 7 foot bar boxes probably would be IMO...

Jaden

Yes, that's kinda of what I was trying to say. Personally, I like playing on all sizes of tables (but prefer 9ft tables), but people who only take a casual interest in pool (play every once in a while) likely don't know there are different sizes and likely have never played on anything except a bar box. That's true at least around here where bar tables are much more prevalent than big tracks.
 
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