Attention Moderators

How in the hell do you type this sh!t so fast........and you claim to be a keyboard pecker? And the same old stuff over and over and over and over.

What is OK is that whatever the owners want to allow on their site is none of my business. You seem to be missing the point......you're very good at ignoring and/or playing dumb when the obvious is staring you in the face.

A pic here and there by this poster or that poster (funny pic thread) is gonna happen and most all grown men probably like to see some "eye candy" here and there. But you've taken it to what some might consider an abnormal level.

It's not just CTE advocates that dislike you, I'd say it's most of the whole forum. And this is just your pitiful attempt of trying to get people to like you.

That is your arrogant twisted suggestive 'interpretation'.

Naturally everyone likes to be liked, but if I really cared whether or not people like me on the internet, do you think I would be taking the position that I have regarding that inaccurate description?

If you want to be liked by all, then say nothing of any substance & 'everyone' will like you. There are very many here that are 'liked' by nearly everyone.

The numbers of those posts is in direct proportion to the time that I come on AZB & there is nothing substantive in the main, instructor, or aiming forum other than what color chalk do you use.

Hence I am bored & while waiting for something of interest to pop up, I will post there.

So... if there was more interesting, intelligent, & substantive discussion of interesting topics here... then there would be less posts there.

Does that satisfy your curiosity? I doubt it... as you just want to put your slant on matters & do not care about it being truthful or not.

I think Mike & Jerry should limit every member to just 3 posts per day & only allow 6 views & visitors only get 3 views.
 
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Post 385/387 in the John Schmidt thread:

ENGLISH is seeking to gather a following for antagonizing me on FACEBOOK.

Stan Shuffett

Stan - I'm out of the CTE debate wars and only check in here on occasion. I have no problem with you doing whatever you want with your system, short of scamming people, which i don't think you do.

I know you probably don't care for my opinion, but looking at this pretty objectively, I think, what English said was not an attack on you. In fact, I think he was simply inquiring as to whether facebook might be a good venue for you to discuss CTE with people who like it. His comment came across to me like, "Why aren't these guys using facebook to discuss CTE in peace, or maybe they are already?"

I don't see the problem. In fact, why don't you use a facebook page for promoting your system? Dana S. set up a Play Great Pool facebook page for Mark Wilson, and he has over 1000 subscribers discussing PGP. It is moderated and off-topic posts are culled out. Sounds like a no-brainer to me.

Good luck.
 
Stan - I'm out of the CTE debate wars and only check in here on occasion. I have no problem with you doing whatever you want with your system, short of scamming people, which i don't think you do.

I know you probably don't care for my opinion, but looking at this pretty objectively, I think, what English said was not an attack on you. In fact, I think he was simply inquiring as to whether facebook might be a good venue for you to discuss CTE with people who like it. His comment came across to me like, "Why aren't these guys using facebook to discuss CTE in peace, or maybe they are already?"

I don't see the problem. In fact, why don't you use a facebook page for promoting your system? Dana S. set up a Play Great Pool facebook page for Mark Wilson, and he has over 1000 subscribers discussing PGP. It is moderated and off-topic posts are culled out. Sounds like a no-brainer to me.

Good luck.

Thanks Dan,

That was exactly what the comment was about & I think any unbiased neutral individual would read it that way.

Thanks Again & Best 2 Ya,
Rick

PS How have you been?
 
Stan - I'm out of the CTE debate wars and only check in here on occasion. I have no problem with you doing whatever you want with your system, short of scamming people, which i don't think you do.

I know you probably don't care for my opinion, but looking at this pretty objectively, I think, what English said was not an attack on you. In fact, I think he was simply inquiring as to whether facebook might be a good venue for you to discuss CTE with people who like it. His comment came across to me like, "Why aren't these guys using facebook to discuss CTE in peace, or maybe they are already?"

I don't see the problem. In fact, why don't you use a facebook page for promoting your system? Dana S. set up a Play Great Pool facebook page for Mark Wilson, and he has over 1000 subscribers discussing PGP. It is moderated and off-topic posts are culled out. Sounds like a no-brainer to me.

Good luck.

Not speaking for Stan, nor am I a "proponent" per se (merely a proponent of civility), I believe the proper response would be something to effect of "why cant we discuss it in peace here?"

Because its obvious that there are more than a few who dont intend for that to happen. Seems silly to me.....dont like CTE, dont believe in it......dont go into a thread about it. Peaceful, huh?
 
Stan - I'm out of the CTE debate wars and only check in here on occasion. I have no problem with you doing whatever you want with your system, short of scamming people, which i don't think you do.

I know you probably don't care for my opinion, but looking at this pretty objectively, I think, what English said was not an attack on you. In fact, I think he was simply inquiring as to whether facebook might be a good venue for you to discuss CTE with people who like it. His comment came across to me like, "Why aren't these guys using facebook to discuss CTE in peace, or maybe they are already?"

I don't see the problem. In fact, why don't you use a facebook page for promoting your system? Dana S. set up a Play Great Pool facebook page for Mark Wilson, and he has over 1000 subscribers discussing PGP. It is moderated and off-topic posts are culled out. Sounds like a no-brainer to me.

Good luck.


yup. Having the read the original post I'd have to say Stan is being a bit hysterical on this one.

Lou Figueroa
hell, let's ALL go over
to Stan's FB page :-)
 
Not speaking for Stan, nor am I a "proponent" per se (merely a proponent of civility), I believe the proper response would be something to effect of "why cant we discuss it in peace here?"

Because its obvious that there are more than a few who dont intend for that to happen. Seems silly to me.....dont like CTE, dont believe in it......dont go into a thread about it. Peaceful, huh?

This is an open forum where everybody is free to comment. When you say "in peace" I think you are really saying "without (constant) disagreement." If you want a place to discuss details of CTE without being interrupted by people who have disparate (and often not so subtle) opinions, then take the discussion somewhere that is moderated, like facebook. Why not do both? If, in fact, Stan is not already making use of facebook, then he may be missing out on a great way to get the word out.
 
Not speaking for Stan, nor am I a "proponent" per se (merely a proponent of civility), I believe the proper response would be something to effect of "why cant we discuss it in peace here?"

Because its obvious that there are more than a few who dont intend for that to happen. Seems silly to me.....dont like CTE, dont believe in it......dont go into a thread about it. Peaceful, huh?

Bruce,

It seems that you've joined the side that can't see the forest for the trees.

Once going in & seeing an inaccurate description that can entice many with that provocative inaccurate description that will always be controversial until it is corrected... if one cares about others at all, that inaccuracy should be pointed out.

Once that is done & the rational logical explanations have been given, for years by PJ, Jal, & others, why do you suppose that that inaccurate description has been clung to like The Goose That Laid The Golden Egg?

All that would need to be done to terminate all of the hub bub is to correct that description to an accurate one.

THEN everyone might be able to discuss the beneficial attributes like those that have been suggested by PJ...

calmly & civilly & peacefully without all of the personal attacks that are launched by the vocal CTEers.

Why has that not happened, Bruce?
 
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Once going in & seeing an inaccurate description that can entice many ..........

Who in the hell is this "many" that you keep talking about? I haven't ever met a person in Hawaiian Brian's who ever heard the term CTE aiming.

It think this many may be in your head. If ANYONE is so damn stupid that they can't figure out if something works or doesn't work after a week or two, then they are too damn dumb to play pool anyway, IMHO.

99% of the people I talk to in the pool hall have never heard of AZB either and that includes people who are supposedly internet savvy.
 
Who in the hell is this "many" that you keep talking about? I haven't ever met a person in Hawaiian Brian's who ever heard the term CTE aiming.

It think this many may be in your head. If ANYONE is so damn stupid that they can't figure out if something works or doesn't work after a week or two, then they are too damn dumb to play pool anyway, IMHO.

99% of the people I talk to in the pool hall have never heard of AZB either and that includes people who are supposedly internet savvy.

With all due respect,

You now seem to sound like Barton & are saying that AZB is insignificant.

I don't remember the exact number but I believe Barton said that there were multiple millions of hits on the you tube videos.

Maybe you should ask Mike how many visitors AZB gets per day.

My recent thread had over 600 views in about 18 hours.

One of the other threads had over 10,000 views in what I think was about 2 weeks.

I know that that counts many repeats by the active members here, but I would say that thousands could & should be considered as "rather many"...

but why should even ONE individual be mislead by an inaccurate description?
 
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I wish there were words to express accurately how tired I am of this crap.

I am saying this now and maybe for the last time.

If threads here in the aiming sub forum go off topic and I think something being posted is an attack, there might well be a long ban.

All this back and forth, finger pointing , accusations of untruth etc....
ends

If a civil question is asked, a civil response needs to be given, or none at all.

Rick, if you ask a question and nobody wishes to respond to you, if you start with baiting and saying they ran away etc, you will face a ban.
 
I wish there were words to express accurately how tired I am of this crap.

I am saying this now and maybe for the last time.

If threads here in the aiming sub forum go off topic and I think something being posted is an attack, there might well be a long ban.

All this back and forth, finger pointing , accusations of untruth etc....
ends

If a civil question is asked, a civil response needs to be given, or none at all.

Rick, if you ask a question and nobody wishes to respond to you, if you start with baiting and saying they ran away etc, you will face a ban.

Dave,

I hope you will allow & consider the following question of clarification.

By that, do you mean that I & others are prohibited from saying that something has not nor can not be provided by a certain specific individual or individuals or group of individuals for an obvious reason?

I do not see stating the truth of such as "baiting". But I'm not that savvy to some terms as they apply to forums.

Thanks in advance for any clarification to make matters more clear to me.

Regards,
Rick
 
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Dave,

I hope you will allow & consider the following question of clarification.

By that, do you mean that I & others are prohibited from saying that something has not nor can not be provided by a certain specific individual or individuals or group of individuals for an obvious reason?

I do not see stating the truth of such as "baiting". But I'm not that savvy to some terms as they apply to forums.

Thanks in advance for any clarification to make matters more clear to me.

Regards,
Rick


There are people that adhere to various aiming systems. There are people that insist they are all bunk.
If you ask a question, be prepared to either accept the answer given and walk away or to not receive an answer at all.
I will not humor anyone calling another a liar, a crook, a snakeoil salesman...etc.

If religion doesn't work for you, don't go into a church and insist God doesn't exist.
 
There are people that adhere to various aiming systems. There are people that insist they are all bunk.
If you ask a question, be prepared to either accept the answer given and walk away or to not receive an answer at all.
I will not humor anyone calling another a liar, a crook, a snakeoil salesman...etc.

If religion doesn't work for you, don't go into a church and insist God doesn't exist.

Thanks Dave,

Individuals do make mistakes & then refuse to admit their mistakes.

Religion & God very often have nothing in common.

Regards & All the Best Wishes to You & Yours,
Rick
 
Thanks Dave,

Individuals do make mistakes & then refuse to admit their mistakes.

Religion & God very often have nothing in common.

Regards & All the Best Wishes to You & Yours,
Rick

GOD created EVERYTHING, including religion

i will not argue/debate this with you and it's ok if you don't believe
 
GOD created EVERYTHING, including religion

i will not argue/debate this with you and it's ok if you don't believe

I certainly Believe in God.

Did God Create The Religion of Satin Worship?

Or The Religion of Money Worship?

Create & Allow are NOT the same thing.
 
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I certainly Believe in God.

Did God Create The Religion of Satin Worship?

Or The Religion of Money Worship?

Create & Allow are NOT the same thing.

GOD created ANGELS of which one fell to the level of satan, satan took advantage of mans free will to pervert religion, create greed and countless other sins

that's my final answer
 
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This is an open forum where everybody is free to comment. When you say "in peace" I think you are really saying "without (constant) disagreement." If you want a place to discuss details of CTE without being interrupted by people who have disparate (and often not so subtle) opinions, then take the discussion somewhere that is moderated, like facebook. Why not do both? If, in fact, Stan is not already making use of facebook, then he may be missing out on a great way to get the word out.

This forum is moderated. In theory, by "objective" 3rd parties, not by those whose Facebook posts are authored. Therefore, this "should" be a place for, dare I say it, "objective" discussion of pool related discussions.

Thing is, actively policing this schoolyard full of people who arent interested in maintaining a civil discussion is a time-consuming and thankless job, one I'm certain the mods here tire of.

It remains sad that this "open forum" cannot exist in a productive manner. Instead, we are left with this foolishness that doesn't ever advance the discussion, it merely delves into the gutter of foolish and petty bickering.

Whoopie.
 
GOD created ANGELS of which one fell to the level of satan, satan took advantage of mans free will to pervert religion, create greed and countless other sins

that's my final answer

Here is not the place.

But if you'd like a conversation of discussion you can PM me.

We have similarities but also somewhat different views.
 
This forum is moderated. In theory, by "objective" 3rd parties, not by those whose Facebook posts are authored. Therefore, this "should" be a place for, dare I say it, "objective" discussion of pool related discussions.

Thing is, actively policing this schoolyard full of people who arent interested in maintaining a civil discussion is a time-consuming and thankless job, one I'm certain the mods here tire of.

It remains sad that this "open forum" cannot exist in a productive manner. Instead, we are left with this foolishness that doesn't ever advance the discussion, it merely delves into the gutter of foolish and petty bickering.

Whoopie.

I'd like you, Bruce, to take a position contrary to anything but 100% pro & fully on board with "IT" & see how long is stays civil with you.

Dan White came on & he had a conversation with HAL long ago, but has never really been able to get it to work as it is supposed to work, objectively, & look what happened to him & he was just asking some questions to try to get some help to get past the stumbling point that has prevented him from getting it to work as it supposed to, which is objectively.

He retreated back into silence. He's not the only one. If there is any doubt or question in your mind you're beat down.
 
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