AZ 8 rated - Round Robin at Sweet Tooth Billiards

grindz said:
are you following this? LOL It looks like there is an abundance of title seekers here in a woof fest to take your title.

td



And NO, I'm not one of them. :rolleyes:

Not a woof fest. I just said I wanted to play and they left me out. Then jude starts picking a winner and it took off from there. Jason has been saying he is going to win easily. I think any of us can win this and I hope it goes off. I don't care about the title, I just want to play.:eek:
 
JasonCrugar said:
PLEASE MAKE THIS ON THE BIG TABLES . I DON'T WANT ANY LAME EXCUSES THAT THE TABLE OR THE GAME WAS THE PROBLEM. PEOPLE IN AZ'S PROBLEM IS THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY WHEN THEY LOSE. THEY BLAME IT ON EVERYTHING ELSE. IF I GET OUTPLAYED ILL BUY THE GUY A DRINK AND WISH HIM WELL. TOO AFRAID TO LOSE IS THE ISSUE. DON'T BE AFRAID BOYS ... I'LL PLAY NICE

Since you said it, make sure you bring a lot of $$ to buy my drinks after you lose.:thumbup:
 
cash

justabanger said:
He said he drilled you in the chat but I may be wrong but I am 100% sure he said he won easily. Just make sure we are not playing for peanuts or v-cash. Bring a pocket full of cash and I will do the same and we can play til one of us is busted. :thumbup:

wtf you think i play for kid? get a partner to go in with you and i will bust you both. only 8s i won't make that statement to is carlos or derrick. as i see we play pretty close. and stuck won the 8 ball easily just cuz idgaf. one set one time doesnt define me. i played a state champion 9 even???? who have you played son?
 
justabanger said:
Since you said it, make sure you bring a lot of $$ to buy my drinks after you lose.:thumbup:

you get a 5% refund on what you lose. so you can buy drinks for yourself
 
This thread has got pretty interesting. IMO, of all the 8's on the list... it is a toss up on who is going to win. One thing I know for sure... I have never beat bval and I think Justin and I are even when we play.

Jude - It would be great to have you come out and play with us.

I would like to see the field expanded.... I know there are more 8's out there that want to get in on the action!

-Carlos

As far as what size table.... I don't care, I play equally bad on each. :o
 
JasonCrugar said:
didn't lenny openly admit he is a better all around player than his buddy who is a strong 9??????? i am not trying to bust anyone's game but he was one saying he is better all around player than his friend . if i remember correctly the said 9 admitted lenny was better all around???? correct me if i'm wrong but lenny kinda brought this to himself if you ask me. don't get me wrong as lenny is an awesome person and fun as hell to chat with and love the shi* outta the guy.

Like I said bro, you could make Lenny a 10-2 if you want to and I would not care but he is still a few months away from being a 9 IMO. Has Lenny's game improved?? HELL YES. At the rate Lenny's game is improving he would have been a 9 soon any way but he is just not there yet. Maybe the 9 that said Lenny was better than him was Sammy. If that's the case then he is right. Lenny is better than him but only because Sammy is an 8 and has no business being rated as a 9. What if this so called 9 that said Lenny was better all around player only played 9 ball and Lenny beat him at 8 ball and One Pocket and Banks but Lenny got killed in the 9 ball. If you are going to rate people then you have to rate them in all the games or just do away with it all together. It seems like Arizona rates players based on opinions instead of facts. With out tracking scores from matches how can you rate someone??
 
to quote justin

back2good1 said:
This thread has got pretty interesting. IMO, of all the 8's on the list... it is a toss up on who is going to win. One thing I know for sure... I have never beat bval and I think Justin and I are even when we play.

Jude - It would be great to have you come out and play with us.

I would like to see the field expanded.... I know there are more 8's out there that want to get in on the action!

-Carlos

As far as what size table.... I don't care, I play equally bad on each. :o
i just want to play . single elimination race to 11 and we might be able to expand it but we would lose out on seeing everyone play each other.
 
yep

justabanger said:
Like I said bro, you could make Lenny a 10-2 if you want to and I would not care but he is still a few months away from being a 9 IMO. Has Lenny's game improved?? HELL YES. At the rate Lenny's game is improving he would have been a 9 soon any way but he is just not there yet. Maybe the 9 that said Lenny was better than him was Sammy. If that's the case then he is right. Lenny is better than him but only because Sammy is an 8 and has no business being rated as a 9. What if this so called 9 that said Lenny was better all around player only played 9 ball and Lenny beat him at 8 ball and One Pocket and Banks but Lenny got killed in the 9 ball. If you are going to rate people then you have to rate them in all the games or just do away with it all together. It seems like Arizona rates players based on opinions instead of facts. With out tracking scores from matches how can you rate someone??
i agree tracking has to be done to help ratings accuracy
 
JasonCrugar said:
wtf you think i play for kid? get a partner to go in with you and i will bust you both. only 8s i won't make that statement to is carlos or derrick. as i see we play pretty close. and stuck won the 8 ball easily just cuz idgaf. one set one time doesnt define me. i played a state champion 9 even???? who have you played son?

I do not need a partner as I am sure I have enough money in my left sock to play big bank takes little bank with you SON!!! It is funny how in one post you say no excuses and when you lose you shake hands and buy drinks and then here you are saying you lost the 8 ball to Jerry cuz you did not give a f. Sounds like an excuse to me. :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
Sorry Brady

It was not my intention to hi-jack your thread. Back to the tourney. Please switch it to the big tables but I will now play no matter what we play on. Thanks for putting this all together.
 
justabanger said:
I do not need a partner as I am sure I have enough money in my left sock to play big bank takes little bank with you SON!!! It is funny how in one post you say no excuses and when you lose you shake hands and buy drinks and then here you are saying you lost the 8 ball to Jerry cuz you did not give a f. Sounds like an excuse to me. :thumbup: :thumbup:
no excuses i got beat at his best game on his best table and we split the next set. and only one way to find out on the big bank takes lil bank show up at tourny with a bunch and you will get played.
 
you kill me

justabanger said:
It was not my intention to hi-jack your thread. Back to the tourney. Please switch it to the big tables but I will now play no matter what we play on. Thanks for putting this all together.
are you thanking bval for startin this tourny ahahahahaha he isnt only one in on this fool. you should be thanking stuckart
 
justin as soon as tourny is over

justabanger said:
I do not need a partner as I am sure I have enough money in my left sock to play big bank takes little bank with you SON!!! It is funny how in one post you say no excuses and when you lose you shake hands and buy drinks and then here you are saying you lost the 8 ball to Jerry cuz you did not give a f. Sounds like an excuse to me. :thumbup: :thumbup:
you and jude both have action afterwards
 
Ok. I haven't had time to read everything because i using my phone. The d etails are listed on page 1. If you would like to play that is great. If not that is fine too. This is just supposed to be fun. It is the same thing they used to do at alexanders. This won't be the last one i am sure. I did not come up with this idea i just started the thread. Jerry and jason actually came up with it. I never heard anything about this being on big tables until justin said something about it. You didnt get left out. Your pm said if it is on the bar tables you would pass. I thought you would read the first post of the thread where it says it is being played on bar tables. It will be limited to the first 8 players who commit so we can get it all done in one day. lets have some fun.
 
BVal said:
Ok. I haven't had time to read everything because i using my phone. The d etails are listed on page 1. If you would like to play that is great. If not that is fine too. This is just supposed to be fun. It is the same thing they used to do at alexanders. This won't be the last one i am sure. I did not come up with this idea i just started the thread. Jerry and jason actually came up with it. I never heard anything about this being on big tables until justin said something about it. You didnt get left out. Your pm said if it is on the bar tables you would pass. I thought you would read the first post of the thread where it says it is being played on bar tables. It will be limited to the first 8 players who commit so we can get it all done in one day. lets have some fun.

In the other thread Jerry had where this whole thing started it said it was on big tables. My name was on the other list already and it was not on this thread. I then read the pm asking me to confirm. I said already that I will play no matter what. Count me in!
 
JasonCrugar said:
are you thanking bval for startin this tourny ahahahahaha he isnt only one in on this fool. you should be thanking stuckart

Jason, I suggest that you leave the fool part out of your post's to me in the future. I was thanking bval for getting the ball rolling and getting everyone on the same page.
 
JasonCrugar said:
you and jude both have action afterwards

I can not speak for Jude but I do not think I would be interested in taking your 20.00 weekly allowance. Save that allowance for a few years and i might be interested.:thumbup:
 
justabanger said:
In the other thread Jerry had where this whole thing started it said it was on big tables. My name was on the other list already and it was not on this thread. I then read the pm asking me to confirm. I said already that I will play no matter what. Count me in!
i will add you to the list tomorrow morning. I cant edit from my phone. I will also take Tim off the list since he is not sure how he will feel that day and since we are trying to get it done in one day we are probably better off.
 
grindz said:
are you following this? LOL It looks like there is an abundance of title seekers here in a woof fest to take your title.

td



And NO, I'm not one of them. :rolleyes:
I made my post and have been busy here in NY so have not had a ton of time to be online to check back.I am glad its getting heated up in here and people are doing some trash talking,I hope it stirs up action,that is what its about anyway.I hope you guys make games with one another and matchup for the cash,its only going to make your games stronger.

As for me and my game,well I feel most days I am a solid 8 and sometimes I do play 9 speed,have had some sets where I played like a 10,most people can have this happen at our ability level.I planned on becoming a 9 this year,I know what I need to work on and will get it there,the raise was premature and most people have complimented me on my game and said I will play into it anyway and get better.

I love the game plain and simple regardless of all the rating BS,the rating system can be fixed as I said but you need to really dial people in and meeting up every 4 months does not cut it,you guys need to meet up monthly to make it work.I said I was a better player then my buddy who is a 9,all around I am and he will agree with that,he is only a 9 because his 9 ball game is at that speed,I am the favorite in the other games and have a chance to win playing the 9 ball also,its 9 ball and if someone is a ball better or ball worse they can still win a set.

I have played a bunch of you on here and you know how I play,I would say I take the cash 90% of the time,sometimes I am stealing and other times I think I catch people on a bad day.I have respect for all of you guys that I played and enjoyed playing you,I really had alot of people I wanted to play for the title which is a fun thing to me but now I cant which bums me out alittle bit.

I dont care about what people really say about me and comments about how they will gamble with me and whatever,I am always at Kolbys,you can get played most of the time depending on how my pockets are.If I know you then most likely I know where we stand in most games,I might see a guy and know I can beat him in 8 ball and it might be a toss up in 9 ball or straights,one pocket I might have an edge,then I pick and choose my games wisely.I know some players can beat me in 9 ball but that does not make them an better all around player then me,9 ball is the most luckiest so a set can go either way at times depending on the time of day.I see some players think they played better because they won but its not always the case,I have counted balls I made in 9 ball sets and my opponents made and sometimes its when and how you miss.Play a set and count all the balls you made and that your opponents made,mark down when someone missed a shot and keep track,you will see where I am coming from then. ;)

If anyone on here has taken my cash who post on this forum then let it be known,I dont know anyone besides Lou who doesnt live in AZ,we played some cheap one pocket and he beat me.I knew he would but gave him some gas money anyway since I love one pocket and its the right thing to do when someone comes to town,give alittle action.

I know Jude barks alot and like that he gambles,but its not a big deal when you got the cash like that,whats $500 when you got a ton of cash?,to a regular guy it is alot of pressure.I might not be a great player but I am better then most at matching up and know when I got the nuts and when I am in a bad game,I am smarter then most and underrate my game so I dont get in a bad game.I will tell you this if I had alot of money I would bust alot of guys because I know what I need to win,I know alot of moves.Jude highrolls and that is great,it takes people out of there element but its not about who plays better,its who gambles better,Jude "might" do that better then most.Jude is 0 for 3 gambling with me playing pool,1 for 8 in coinflips.Okay enough of being a braggart,haha. :p

I respect all of you guys who I have played with and know you guys can beat me on your day,alot of us play pretty even in 9 ball and others play much better in other games.I would say the best test of who the better player is should be one on one all around challenge matches like we had been doing.I think showing your talent in your best game while your opponent shows their talent in their respective discipline,if you lose in the one you picked your most likely screwed.
I would like to see Brady vs Justin,Ken Vs Jude,Tim vs Carlos and Mike vs Justin,the winners go on and then we can have a King of the 8s since I no longer have the title.Okay well I am done writing my book. :smile:
 
Nice Post Lenny!

I respect Jason's game on the big tables. In my best game, barbox 8-ball, I think I won 7 - 2. It was over pretty much from the start.

I know we started this entire Round Robin idea as 8 players, everyone plays everyone, top 2 play for finals. But I know we have more 8's that would probably like to play. You guys pick the tables and location. If you want big tables, I'd say Bullshooters is your best bet. Race to 8 or 9, 9-ball.

Justin, to answer your ratings questions. The 3 games that are discussed for Rating Persons are 8-ball, 9-ball or 10-ball. Whichever game you play best on the best table for you is what you are rated at. Ratings are used for weekly/monthly tournaments around the state. You can't have different ratings for different games. The number of man hours to control this for the 1000's of players is too much to ask.

As far as the ABC verse the AZ Ratings, the more separation the better. Putting everyone in 3 categories instead of 9 seems to be stepping backwards. It would even be better if we were able to track stats for every match people play. Like John Casey does for his league at Bullshooters. If you haven't checked it out yet, I highly recommend it. They score things like you mentioned Lenny. Safes played, misses, balls made, etc. And it gives you a score. The problem in doing stat's like this is the same with every rating situation. People will stop playing at places that might move their rating up so they can keep making some money at other places that don't track everything.

And if you guys are playing on Big Tables, can I get in? I played Jason 7 ahead 10-ball on big tables and even though I was ahead the entire match, I never was able to close it on those stupid Metro Big Tables. I think I got to the hill 4 times and would dry break and watch Jason run 2 or 3 racks on me. The tables were breaking horrible with neither of us able to make a ball for the entire 5 1/2 hours. I'm a good 8 in 9ball on big tables. Let me know. Lenny can play too as his 9-ball game is 8 speed.

If it is big tables, then Sweet Tooth is most likely out as they only have 3. If we have more players than 8 then definitely need to do Bullshooters.

And if we are going to do this, let's make it $100 each to be worth it. Not too pricey to scare people off, but enough to make it more fun and worth it for those that feel they are going to win it.
 
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