iamgoingto
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its good enough, i was just curious what others thought on the topic
b player?
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u guys are refering to straight pool as 14.1, and like johnny just said "i could run 6.1 ball a ten-ball rack" and i dont fully understand the lingo. Could u tell me what the numbers and periods/dots mean i have an idea but id rather hear what they stand for then try to figure out what i think they mean myself.
Jt... Try it and report back. And I'll double-check the DVD this evening to see if I remember it correctly. Thing is... you'll often come up dry on a 10-ball break (unlike a 9-ball break)... and then you're dealing with the congestion of 10 balls... and having to play them in order. Give it a try... I'm curious.Johnnyt said:
Regards, cd.
iamgoingto said:
He is just saying that he can run 6 balls a game 9/10 games and 7 balls 1/10 games for a total of 61 balls which makes him rated as a shortstop which he feels that he is not.
I personally want to try this sometime, it sounds like a good representation to me. It might sound easy, but just one miss early in a rack and you are adding the amount of balls that you need to run at a serious rate...running 61 as mentioned basically is not going to happen as easily as it sounds. Try it and see for yourself.
Also, what about balls made on the break? Count them or spot them?
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q stick said:
@@" well I guess in your area a midrange A player is better than Efren Reyes at his best then? Seriously no way should you be classified as a B player, let alone a poor B.
cigardave said:
that is a good idea however it dosent show how well a player moves,ducks or leaves his opponent in a bad spot, which would result in a miss and lower the ABCD ranking, some old men who are were 1P warriors probably would end up being a C player, but for an offencive rating i like it alot, i have no clue how to rate a players defencive moves, thus one pocket was born and nobody really knows how good someone moves until the $$$ gets big.
Here's a boiled down version of Phil Capelle's 9-ball rating system... (p. 361 of Play Your Best 9-Ball)...
C Player: best daily runs are 5-7 balls... most of which are routine...seldom runs a complete rack... 1-2 racks is personal best
B Player: ocassional break and run... 2 racks if balls are lying well... average run is 5-6 balls... 2-3 racks is personal best
A Player: runs 1-2 racks quite often... a typical run is 7-8 balls... personal best is 4-5+ racks
Runs do not include 9-balls on the break nor do they include early combos on the 9.
C Player: best daily runs are 5-7 balls... most of which are routine...seldom runs a complete rack... 1-2 racks is personal best
B Player: ocassional break and run... 2 racks if balls are lying well... average run is 5-6 balls... 2-3 racks is personal best
A Player: runs 1-2 racks quite often... a typical run is 7-8 balls... personal best is 4-5+ racks
Runs do not include 9-balls on the break nor do they include early combos on the 9.
cigardave said:
I think the A and B players' personal bests should be higher by at least a rack. I think I am a solid B player (Umma, Lisa and Ross, what do you think?) but my personal best is breaking and running 4 racks in 9 ball (with an early combo on the 5th rack, on a 9') and 6 in 8 ball on an 8'. Yet, I remain in B-ville obscurity.
my opinion
If "a night" is say, 2 or three hours of playing, and you are
running 1 or 2 racks, I would say C.
Again, these A/B/C gradings vary widely across areas.
I've been told a B player runs a rack about half the time, and
a C player runs a rack occasionally. (Nine Ball)
If "a night" is say, 2 or three hours of playing, and you are
running 1 or 2 racks, I would say C.
Again, these A/B/C gradings vary widely across areas.
I've been told a B player runs a rack about half the time, and
a C player runs a rack occasionally. (Nine Ball)
whitey2 said:
What if you are playing a semi-pro at the time?
I run far less racks when I get far less shots...
whitey2 said:
wow that is not what I have heard from a federation rep(he is a AAA). We were talking about some 9-ball and he said (but this goes with our rating system in the federation). C player will not be able to run a rack (run means 1 ball through 9 ball). B players should run a rack 5% of the time.
cigardave said:
imo this is a much closer representation than any i've heard so far. the only thing i would add to the equation is their ability to decide where and when to play safe and their ability to execute them. for straight pool, barring the safety play, any player that can consistently execute a break, run 14, leave a decent break shot and execute another breakout is at least a semi-pro if not a pro level player. it may seem to some like it's easy to do but it's not. if you can do this rather well you can get opportunities to run allot of balls. of course big factors such as table condition and nerves play as big a part as your stroke it it as well. for most players it's their inability to get consistent "line" position that foils their attempt most times, which happens more than not.
cigardave said:
Not a bad yardstick. Maybe a little low on the A and B player. My feeling is that a B player (me) should run out about half the time with an open rack.
Maybe a little more, particularly if they are shooting at any ball above the four. Then it goes up as high as three out of four racks, when shooting at an open rack with six or fewer balls on the table.
Bottom line, if you can't get out frequently, you are not a B player (or a Shortstop).