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Actually you did kind of start this one Bobby by talking about the ball cleaning thing with your 311, which all of us have seen is a big thing you have against schmidt. I'm not sure why really since Mosconi supposedly did all his exhibitions with his own set of polished waxed balls. Earl is a fanatic about clean equipment and getting rid of skids as well, lots of pros are. And I have met both of you at different events and like both of you so not bashing you. Just trying to see the thing from an objective viewpoint. Seems like as soon as schmidt asked you to prove that you can run numbers instead of just claiming it you changed the subject away from pool and away it went getting more and more personal, neither of you backing away.
Why not just post some runs and end the discussion for good with ANY of the folks on the forum?
 
I know this is kinda sick, but this little kurfuffle got me revved up to go play some straight pool. So I thought I'd pop in one of John's DVDs, the 245 run, into my nice new 27" iMac, and refresh my brain on 14.1 and... it won't play. Neither will the "How I run 100's" DVD. The opening screen shots come up, but I hit play and I get "verboten."

Anyone know a fix?

Lou Figueroa
gonna have to go dig out
the Windows laptop udder wise
 
lfigueroa said:
I know this is kinda sick, but this little kurfuffle got me revved up to go play some straight pool. So I thought I'd pop in one of John's DVDs, the 245 run, into my nice new 27" iMac, and refresh my brain on 14.1 and... it won't play. Neither will the "How I run 100's" DVD. The opening screen shots come up, but I hit play and I get "verboten."

Anyone know a fix?

Lou Figueroa
gonna have to go dig out
the Windows laptop udder wise
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Try VLC player. Its free. I know years ago when Apple first shipped DVD players/recorders on their Mac's, they supported the -R format, more so than the -RW format. But that was 10 years ago, its probably something else.

*Edit: Oh, if that doesn't work, but the dvd reads, then try opening the dvd i the finder, and dragging the Video_ts file into VLC's icon in the dock.
 
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iusedtoberich said:
Try VLC player. Its free. I know years ago when Apple first shipped DVD players/recorders on their Mac's, they supported the -R format, more so than the -RW format. But that was 10 years ago, its probably something else.

*Edit: Oh, if that doesn't work, but the dvd reads, then try opening the dvd i the finder, and dragging the Video_ts file into VLC's icon in the dock.
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I will go look at VLC-- thanks for the tip (cause all other DVDs are playing fine). The Miro Converter I have sure isn't working.

Lou Figueroa
 
Does anyone else want to see some big runs by Bobby Chamberlain? I know I do. As someone who struggles to run anything of note (high run 40) I get every DVD of nice runs I can get my hands on. I have tons of Sigel, Schmidt, Hohman, Ortman, Immonen, etc. I try to pick up things from the different styles, patterns, etc. I've only ever seen Bobby make runs at SBE and I know from experience that it's a little nerveracking trying to put up your best run with a crowd watching. I'd love to have video of Bobby running big numbers. Forget about all the drama earlier in the thread, how about it Bobby, will you post some runs up?
Thanks
 
OK, the VLC didn't work -- I got the title screen of the DVD and then the slider/status bar at the bottom of the control panel just kept running over and over, but the DVD wouldn't play. Other DVDs work fine on the same machine, so I think it's some kind of odd formatting problem with John's DVDs.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
OK, the VLC didn't work -- I got the title screen of the DVD and then the slider/status bar at the bottom of the control panel just kept running over and over, but the DVD wouldn't play. Other DVDs work fine on the same machine, so I think it's some kind of odd formatting problem with John's DVDs.

Lou Figueroa
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Lou:

How about the DivX player for Mac?

http://divx.com/en/software/mac

(I've found, at least on PC and Linux, when certain discs won't play using the default player / codecs, that DivX has come to the rescue.)

Let me know if that works,
-Sean
 
So let me get this straight, for anyone who missed the drama and conflict we used to have in aiming threads, you need to come to the 14.1 forum?

Who knew? :p
 
lfigueroa said:
Nope. Says, "One or more items could not be processed."

Lou Figueroa
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You've probably looked at this, but I'm going to ask anyway... is the disk scratched or dirty? Water with a lint-free cotton cloth can clean 'em up nicely. I always wipe "with the grain"... in other words, wipe in a circle around the disk.
 
You should clean any optical media (CD's or DVD's) from the center hub to the rim (in straight lines). Going in a circle can cause long circular scratches that will cause the disk not to work.

krupa said:
You've probably looked at this, but I'm going to ask anyway... is the disk scratched or dirty? Water with a lint-free cotton cloth can clean 'em up nicely. I always wipe "with the grain"... in other words, wipe in a circle around the disk.
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I really like this idea. Let me bring you to one thing I love about this game. Its fairly close to the original in forms of technology. Yes cloth and balls and tips have greatly improved and I wish they would stop.

Now as for comparing willie to the guys now. Rules should be same table, same pocket sizes and that's all. It would not be right to change balls and tips because nobody has had 30 years to get used to them.

I think John Schmit would welcome the opportunity

Sent from my SCH-I500 using Tapatalk 2
 
krupa said:
You've probably looked at this, but I'm going to ask anyway... is the disk scratched or dirty? Water with a lint-free cotton cloth can clean 'em up nicely. I always wipe "with the grain"... in other words, wipe in a circle around the disk.
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The DVDs are pretty clean AND they play fine on my Windows laptop...

Lou Figueroa
 
Lou both DVD play fine for me but I only ever play them on my PC I will try and throw one in the DVD player on my TV and I wil let you know how that goes. I have personaly seen John run quite a few 100' and a 200+ on a diamond last year at the DCC 14.1 challenge but the silly man did that as a practice run. Invariably he cranks out his biggest numbers while practicing, I think he will get 3xx+ down there on the Diamond 9' one of these days cause he runs balls like butter.

BTW - I ran 31 the other day no video.

Bobby I have not had the pleasure to watch you play. I love this 14.1 game and I think you have some skills that the world would like to see, I know I would so I look forward to video if you decide to share.

As far as the gambling between John and Bobby playing straights, I would be very surprised if the game was long enough that John would not bet his own. I have seen him bet it up out of his own pocket playing premier 1p players and I think he would do the same with he 14.1. I know he is careful but if he likes his end he will definitely send in his own cash. I think it would make a good TAR match thus you could both get paid perhaps 3 days stopping at 300, 600 and 1000. after that the world would know who the better player is with little question. I am not sure how well 14.1 would sell for TAR and the the table would need normal rails so real 14.1 could be played perhaps 4 3/8 or so with the deep shelf. I for for one would buy that PPV stream or would love to see anything posted by Bobby such as some 100+ runs. Any 100+ runs will show a players style especially how they develop the table when the balls do not cooperate.

We will see what happens as Elvi stirs the pot.
 
I am puzzled by the view of many that pro level players need to videotape their runs to validate them. In my opinion, this is utter nonsense and pros have no obligation of any kind to videotape their runs.

Pros have my trust and if they say they ran a certain number of balls in practice, I'm believing it. As we've so often noted here on the forum, practice runs are a different matter than runs made in an exhibitiion or tournament with a full contingent of onlookers.

Straight pool excellence is about running balls when you have to, not just about how many you can run. That's why a match between Bobby and John would be worth watching (although it wouldn't interest me in the least if the pockets were tighter than 4 1/2") because I want to see who can run balls when they have to. Like a typical TAR match, I'd favor a two out of three races to 150 format.

Personally, I think John would win, but maybe I'm wrong.
 
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sjm said:
I am puzzled by the view of many that pro level players need to videotape their runs to validate them. In my opinion, this is utter nonsense and pros have no obligation of any kind to videotape their runs.

Pros have my trust and if they say they ran a certain number of balls in practice, I'm believing it. As we've so often noted here on the forum, practice runs are a different matter than runs made in an exhibitiion or tournament with a full contingent of onlookers.

Straight pool excellence is about running balls when you have to, not just about how many you can run. That's why a match between Bobby and John would be worth watching (although it wouldn't interest me in the least if the pockets were tighter than 4 1/2") because I want to see who can run balls when they have to. Like a typical TAR match, I'd favor a two out of three races to 150 format.

Personally, I think John would win, but maybe I'm wrong.
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I totally agree with your entire post. The only change I would make would be to make the challenge match races to 200. This is purely personal. I just like the longer races.
 
sjm said:
I am puzzled by the view of many that pro level players need to videotape their runs to validate them. In my opinion, this is utter nonsense and pros have no obligation of any kind to videotape their runs.

Pros have my trust and if they say they ran a certain number of balls in practice, I'm believing it. As we've so often noted here on the forum, practice runs are a different matter than runs made in an exhibitiion or tournament with a full contingent of onlookers.

Straight pool excellence is about running balls when you have to, not just about how many you can run. That's why a match between Bobby and John would be worth watching (although it wouldn't interest me in the least if the pockets were tighter than 4 1/2") because I want to see who can run balls when they have to. Like a typical TAR match, I'd favor a two out of three races to 150 format.

Personally, I think John would win, but maybe I'm wrong.
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Stu I agree if a pro says they ran ### balls then they did and thats fine. I myself have no doubt Bobby ran 300+ on a Diamond. All I was saying in my post and I think the others were saying they would like to learn from the elite players when they do run a good number especially 200+ which requires a level of concentration and usually some creation to extend the run any significant distance past the 100. I also would prefer pockets that would take balls. I hope they play sometime it would be worth watching.
 
elvicash said:
Lou both DVD play fine for me but I only ever play them on my PC I will try and throw one in the DVD player on my TV and I wil let you know how that goes. I have personaly seen John run quite a few 100' and a 200+ on a diamond last year at the DCC 14.1 challenge but the silly man did that as a practice run. Invariably he cranks out his biggest numbers while practicing, I think he will get 3xx+ down there on the Diamond 9' one of these days cause he runs balls like butter.

BTW - I ran 31 the other day no video.

Bobby I have not had the pleasure to watch you play. I love this 14.1 game and I think you have some skills that the world would like to see, I know I would so I look forward to video if you decide to share.

As far as the gambling between John and Bobby playing straights, I would be very surprised if the game was long enough that John would not bet his own. I have seen him bet it up out of his own pocket playing premier 1p players and I think he would do the same with he 14.1. I know he is careful but if he likes his end he will definitely send in his own cash. I think it would make a good TAR match thus you could both get paid perhaps 3 days stopping at 300, 600 and 1000. after that the world would know who the better player is with little question. I am not sure how well 14.1 would sell for TAR and the the table would need normal rails so real 14.1 could be played perhaps 4 3/8 or so with the deep shelf. I for for one would buy that PPV stream or would love to see anything posted by Bobby such as some 100+ runs. Any 100+ runs will show a players style especially how they develop the table when the balls do not cooperate.

We will see what happens as Elvi stirs the pot.
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Mine play fine on a DVD player. I just think however John recorded this DVDs Apple does't like the format. I can still see them, it just would have been more convenient on de iMac on de desk.

Lou Figueroa
 
sjm said:
I am puzzled by the view of many that pro level players need to videotape their runs to validate them. In my opinion, this is utter nonsense and pros have no obligation of any kind to videotape their runs.
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I disagree. The bar on this has moved from previous generations thanks to YouTube, Vimeo, all the guys doing streaming, all the 14.1 Challenge videos, John's DVDs (which you can't watch on a Mac :-), all the other videos posted here, AND the ready availability of low cost quality video equipment. Anyone can go out and buy a cheap video camera and tripod and record. It is not rocket science.

And so, if someone is going to claim big runs nowadays, there is no good reason on God's good green Simonis covered Earth that they can't provide video to back it up.

Lou Figueroa
 
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