Bergman vs DeChaine

I will offer to host the Bergman/Dechaine match at Teachers Billiards in St Peters MO. I'll PPV the stream. I'll guarantee each player $1000. They can bet their own.

Here's the format:

9 foot Diamond Blue Label

Friday Night 7p: Race to 21 8Ball
Saturday Afternoon 1p: Race to 21 9Ball
Saturday Night 7p: Race to 21 10Ball

Not a best of 3 sets but total games won determines the winner.
 
Teacherman said:
I will offer to host the Bergman/Dechaine match at Teachers Billiards in St Peters MO. I'll PPV the stream. I'll guarantee each player $1000. They can bet their own.

Here's the format:

9 foot Diamond Blue Label

Friday Night 7p: Race to 21 8Ball
Saturday Afternoon 1p: Race to 21 9Ball
Saturday Night 7p: Race to 21 10Ball

Not a best of 3 sets but total games won determines the winner.
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Now that's a pretty good idea there. Hope it happens. Johnnyt
 
Nice, Teach. On Bergman's home turf, but most would say MD has a slight advantage over JB, so it evens up. I'd buy the PPV. Would Mike come down for it?
 
Teacherman said:
I will offer to host the Bergman/Dechaine match at Teachers Billiards in St Peters MO. I'll PPV the stream. I'll guarantee each player $1000. They can bet their own.

Here's the format:

9 foot Diamond Blue Label

Friday Night 7p: Race to 21 8Ball
Saturday Afternoon 1p: Race to 21 9Ball
Saturday Night 7p: Race to 21 10Ball

Not a best of 3 sets but total games won determines the winner.
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Justanity! :wink: Why wouldn't this happen?
 
Justin is the current Fight Night 10 Ball Champion. If Mike wants to challenge Justin they can play best out of 5 or 7 sets if they want to.

Standard Fight Night terms:

neutral location, minimum entry 10,000.


Ray
 
Poolplaya9 said:
I've been arguing this on here for years. A best of several shorter races that would still equal about the same total number of games as a race to one hundred would is better for a lot of reasons, some of them mentioned below.

-There is much more pressure on both players. Every game is more important, and requires more effort and concentration and the ability to deal with that pressure.

-There is more quality play because nobody can ever give up or let up. In long races when somebody gets far ahead or far behind it is all too common to see them go into coasting mode or give up mode. I want to see the "fighting tooth and nail" mode from both players at all times.

-It is so much more exciting to watch because whoever is behind in any shorter race always has a very realistic chance of being able to come back and still win it. Races to 100 are invariably snoozefests after about a third to a half way in because one person gets too far ahead and the ending is anticlimactic and not close 95% of the time.

-Shorter races will get more viewers and therefore make more ppv money and that leads to more of these matches. Many people didn't buy races to 100 because they couldn't watch the whole thing, and they aren't going to pay to watch just the beginning or middle of a match. They probably would buy the end of a match (last day) if it were still close and not a foregone conclusion, but 95% of the time it isn't close by then and so they didn't end up buying the last day either. On the other hand, people that can't watch all the days would still buy the first, second, or last day of a match that was many shorter races because they get to watch entire races that meant something.

And for those that don't want a best of several shorter races because it is possible to win more total games but lose more races and therefore lose the match...well it is possible but would rarely happen. And in the cases where it did happen, the guy that couldn't come with it when he needed to lost. I see no problem with that at all.

Doing five races to twenty one (for a two day event), or seven races to fifteen (for a two or three day event), both equal about the same total number of games as a race to one hundred but are superior in absolutely every way possible.
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+1 good analysis
There are few die hard "pro-race to 100" goons in other thread http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=404440&page=8 who are blabbering non-stop about greatness of race to 100
Please knock some sense into them
Thanks :D
 
I am sponsored by Mike Dechaine because I'm a great amateur player. With that said my money is on Bergman...I dont think it will be close
 
All Around

How about a race to say 25 10 ball then 15
8 ball , race to 5 1 pc . If you wanna see who the
better player is i think n all around is the answer.
Just an idea. Either way it would be a great match. :thumbup:
 
Teacherman said:
I will offer to host the Bergman/Dechaine match at Teachers Billiards in St Peters MO. I'll PPV the stream. I'll guarantee each player $1000. They can bet their own.

Here's the format:

9 foot Diamond Blue Label

Friday Night 7p: Race to 21 8Ball
Saturday Afternoon 1p: Race to 21 9Ball
Saturday Night 7p: Race to 21 10Ball

Not a best of 3 sets but total games won determines the winner.
Click to expand...

This seems like a good way to play .
 
I have noticed that the player that has a problem with the race to 100 is always the weaker player.
 
The races to 100 have passed their usefulness. How many comebacks have there been in them - two?? How much excitement is in them -- zero. I said this a long time ago. Time to move on to multiple races. Race to between 20 and 30, win by two. Put up multiple sets and if tied after the 4th or 6th set then double or triple the bet on the last set.

Beyond all of this --- how many times has Dechaine gambled with someone even the past two years? If Bergman will play, if he is getting $1000 from a streamer, he should be crawling over dead bodies to get to the table.
 
watchez said:
The races to 100 have passed their usefulness. How many comebacks have there been in them - two?? How much excitement is in them -- zero. I said this a long time ago. Time to move on to multiple races. Race to between 20 and 30, win by two. Put up multiple sets and if tied after the 4th or 6th set then double or triple the bet on the last set.

Beyond all of this --- how many times has Dechaine gambled with someone even the past two years? If Bergman will play, if he is getting $1000 from a streamer, he should be crawling over dead bodies to get to the table.
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Many players will be begging to play even with Mike Dechaine because they will rob him of his lunch money.
If ko pin yi is too strong, his 18 yr old bro ko pin chungwill be more than willing ;) , carlo biado ? Jeffrey ignacio ?? Jayson shaw ?

Mike may need 5 racks in a race to 25 plus the 8 lol
 
watchez said:
The races to 100 have passed their usefulness. How many comebacks have there been in them - two?? How much excitement is in them -- zero. I said this a long time ago. Time to move on to multiple races. Race to between 20 and 30, win by two. Put up multiple sets and if tied after the 4th or 6th set then double or triple the bet on the last set.

Beyond all of this --- how many times has Dechaine gambled with someone even the past two years? If Bergman will play, if he is getting $1000 from a streamer, he should be crawling over dead bodies to get to the table.
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Exactly you get 1 k just to show up. Bet another 4 k each and you got a game. Can't Dechaine get a backer already? These guys duck each other too much. They could play the week after Turning Stone. Then again a bunch of them could.
 
If you are attempting to determine the best player at the time, The long race is the way to go. If you are after entertainment only, then multiple races is best.

In regards to the long race being for die hard fans only, we hire top level commentary which adds to the experience making it valuable for players of all levels.

Ray
 
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