Best All Around Older Player In Ca

jrhendy said:
My apologies to Al Romero. He is older than I am & even when I played my best he gave me weight in one pocket and I wouldn't think of playing him any 9 ball or bar pool then. I don't know how much he plays anymore, but he goes to the top if he plays anything like he did then. John Henderson

He still plays well. He is the favorite over Frank the Barber in one-pocket also.
 
Deadon said:
Wayne was a very good player, and not just straight pool. I have a, or more, picture of him at one of the Jointed Cue tournaments in Sacramento (held at the El Rancho) many years ago.

Thanks for that nice photo of Wayne. Not much about him on the internet. I printed a copy and showed it to him this evening, but someone beat me to it a couple days ago. He got a kick out of it, especialy when I said that Jay called him the Hawk. He joked "Better than being called a Vulture". He remembered the cue in the photo, saying it was a Tad that he later sold for a nice price. He thought the photo might be dated as early as '74.
 
Lil Al

Al still hits them around a little. You can come to Hard Times and bet something if you want to find out how good he is playing. One pocket, 9 ball, golf, liablity, or some billiards. Also he might play you some left handed to. It just depends on how much work he has to do, he is in his mid 70's and still work 7 days a week.

Steve
 
Tablemechanic said:
Al still hits them around a little. You can come to Hard Times and bet something if you want to find out how good he is playing. One pocket, 9 ball, golf, liablity, or some billiards. Also he might play you some left handed to. It just depends on how much work he has to do, he is in his mid 70's and still work 7 days a week.

Steve

Al would be a worthy challenger to Squirrel in his challenge to players over 70. Someone should bring him to Louisville. Hmmmmmmmm
 
jay helfert said:
Al would be a worthy challenger to Squirrel in his challenge to players over 70. Someone should bring him to Louisville. Hmmmmmmmm

I watched Al and Squirrel play many, many years ago in Las Vegas. I do not remember who won.

Around 1990 a strange black player came in Hard Times, Bellflower and asked Al to play. Al was told he could bet what he wanted so he bet $500. The guy won the break and laid one down that was impossible to get out of. Al took three scratches before he could make a legal safety. The guy won and Al quit. We then found out it was Bugs Rucker. I asked Al why he bet $500 a game with a stranger. His classic answer was: "I was only going to lose $500 anyway. What if the guy was a sucker"?
 
Al & Squirrel

jay helfert said:
Al would be a worthy challenger to Squirrel in his challenge to players over 70. Someone should bring him to Louisville. Hmmmmmmmm

Hey Jay...........I watched Al playing some 'Hole' when I was in L.A. last year, and I watched Squirrel play some at the last DCC......I believe Al would get the cheese - for sure.
 
jrhendy said:
I asked Al why he bet $500 a game with a stranger. His classic answer was: "I was only going to lose $500 anyway. What if the guy was a sucker"?

LOL! Very nice.
 
Both John Henderson and Frank Almanza are an inspiration to us younger players. For them to still be playing at a high level, well into their 60's, gives us hope to be able to do the same some day. I've played them both in tournament over the years and learned to take a whippin (doggone 'em!!). I'm not sure how I'd feel if I ever got back at them. Of course, I've been working on this for a few decades now. As a bonus, these fellas happen to be real nice guys. Us Californians got a lucky roll having these boys hanging around the poolroom.
 
How old is Cole Dickson? i know he does not live there anymore but he might be a contender in this discussion from the stories i've heard of him. tk
 
tennesseekid said:
How old is Cole Dickson? i know he does not live there anymore but he might be a contender in this discussion from the stories i've heard of him. tk

Mid 50's I believe. His pool game has been very erratic for a number of years. Nothing like the Cole of countless legends.
 
jay helfert said:
Mid 50's I believe. His pool game has been very erratic for a number of years. Nothing like the Cole of countless legends.
Cole had the smoothest stroke and could pocket balls from anywhere. I believe he is in his mid 50's.

I played him three times, each time about 7 years years apart.

I believe he was about 16 or 17 years old the first time in the late 60's in San Leandro, Ca
In the early 70's we played again in Castro Valley, Ca.

In the late 70's we ran into each other in Alhambra, Ca. He walks in and says Frank the Barber what do you want to do. I said I can't play you anymore, you're beating everyone in the country. He offered me the eight ball. We played for $50 a rack. After a number of games and me getting some good rolls he pulled up and said to me " you've beat me every time we played and then I got smart and gave you the eight ball".

We have become good friends through out the years. He's game was feared by everyone in the country. I'm glad he didn't get a chance to get into stroke against me.
 
jrhendy said:
Maybe this will stir things up a little, and remember it is just my opinion, but I think "Those In The Know" will agree with me. First, I am going to divide the state up & then pick who I think is the best overall. The players should be 65 or over and I'm sure there are some I don't know about that we may hear from.

In Southern California it is Frank "The Barber" Almanza. Frank is still playing well and winning tournaments. I know Frank reads this forum and look forward to hearing his opinion if he will give it.

In Northern California I pick "ME", John Henderson. I play almost all the games (not straight pool), one handed or two handed, cash regularly in local tournaments against the best up here and will bet on myself when somebody is looking for action.

As far as my opinion on who is the best Sr. player in California, I pick Frank Almanza. We are old friends and have played many times when I lived in LA. Frank is a better tournament player, better 9 ball player, better bar pool player, better at most of the games, and always matched up better than me. I would consider myself a favorite over him playing one pocket and golf, especially on a 6 x 12, but that might be because he didn't play it much.

We have another guy in Ventura, Jerry "Baby Huey" Matchin, who still plays pretty sporty, but he might not be old enough yet. We also have to give some props to Jay Helfert, but I think Holdem gets most of his attention now.

If you know a Sr. player who can still play, lets hear about him, and if you want to match something up, maybe we can do something there too. John Henderson

Heh John,
I guess I have a few years before being an "older player" --- my poor body today thanks you.;)
 
Jack Madden said:
Heh John,
I guess I have a few years before being an "older player" --- my poor body today thanks you.;)

Don't worry Jack, you will never be as old as you look. Heh Heh
 
older california players ??

Does anyone remember LA Billy Smith? He must be over 70.
 
JMB said:
Does anyone remember LA Billy Smith? He must be over 70.


He came back around in the 90's. Hung out at Hard Times. Started a women's pool league and got some investors. Then he disappeared, back to Lancaster I heard.
 
Lil Al Romero

Little Al made me my first cue. Beyond being a road legend and a big stick at Hardtimes, Bellflower, he makes a great Sneaky Pete, gives lessons, and is a true gentleman.

I hope, but doubt he has a PC to view this thread.
 
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