SpiderWebComm said:
you river boat gambler you! I'll ride around and drink beer with you and we'll gamble on how many it takes for us to wreck the cart.
Best Golfer Amongst Pro Pool Players?
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you river boat gambler you! I'll ride around and drink beer with you and we'll gamble on how many it takes for us to wreck the cart.
beav99_4life said:
Story I have heard from more than one person close them is that Corey got Johnny a game with a guy Johnny was supposedly able to beat. They played some and Johnny beat him cheap. Then they were going to go head to head in a four day tournmanent style golf match (like the pro golf tour stops) and play for $50k. After the first 9 holes, Johnny realized that Corey had set him up and the guy was a semi/pro..so he quit the match right then. I heard he paid the guy and then doesnt really talk to Corey much for setting him up.
corvette1340 said:
Haha... I'm just saying I don't think a one of them is a "true scratch" golfer. Shooting an occasional par round isn't a scratch golfer, nor is shooting par all the time on some retard course. If you ride along, Vette, I just hope we don't get so shit-faced we forget to collect at the end. Schmidt, if he were playing-playing and not focusing on pool, would maybe be excluded - but that's the only one of the entire group who would have me actually "sweating" the bet.
Funny stuff
This is a funny story if it is true or even if it isn't. I have never been to a country club that allows 5somes to tee off though.
Kevin
corvette1340 said:
This is a funny story if it is true or even if it isn't. I have never been to a country club that allows 5somes to tee off though.
Kevin
JCIN said:
Whoa, whoa, whoa. we better get one of the limo style golf carts that resorts use to squire around potential buyers and their families cause my chunky ass is in on this too
BRKNRUN said:
Of course there will always be some golfers with handicaps lower than they should be and vice-versa. It is also a fact that Club pros in general struggle to return good competition scores largely because they simply do not get the opportunity to play much competitive stroke play golf. However you might be over-simplifying it a little bit and you might also be being slightly unfair on the club pros and the good amateurs in this instance.
I don't know what yardstick you are hypothetically measuring their scores on a PGA set up against in order to arrive at your conclusions, but if you are measuring it as anywhere near "level par = scratch handicap" you are definitely being unfair on them.
The Congu system probably illustrates the point better than the USGA system. I want you to imagine a full field for an Open event on a PGA Tour par 72 set up of medium to hard type level, including the furthest back tees and fast greens/difficult pins. The field consists of say 50 club pros and 50 amateurs with handicaps ranging from +3 to 3.
There is a very good chance that after all 100 scores have been returned and computed under the Congu system the "competition standard scratch score" for this event might be in the 76/79 range, possibly higher in bad weather conditions, which means that these guys may still be playing to perfectly genuine scratch golfer standard even when shooting between 4 and 7 over par in each round in that event on that course.
Speaking very generally (before anyone jumps on me) it is significantly easier for low handicappers to lower their handicap further and quicker under the USGA system than it is for low handicappers to do so under the CONGU system, so in that respect some of what you say may be more valid in USGA administrated areas than in others.
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Dave Bollman of course. He's in the Guiness Book of World Records as the only professional golfer that also turned pro at pool.
Kevin Lindstrom said:
I dont think it was a 5some. Johnny told me this a few years back so its been several years ago when it happened.
memikey said:
You are on the money regarding practice time for a club pro...One way to limit the amount of actual play is to become a golf professional.
BTW...I WAS a club pro...It is a LONG story that I won't go into, but acutally I type this from the Golf course I still work at on Sunday's only.
I was in the PGA program (only so I could play section events).
Typically the club pros that qualify for PGA events will struggle to even make the cut...If as you say above the average score as above par...The club pros end up on the higher end of that list...Usually over the average score mark...Acutally they are partially responsible for raising the mark......A PGA set up course is just a different world.
I actually was considered a scratch golfer...I had the opportunity to play the TPC a couple weeks before the Phoenix Open (back when it was still called the Phoenix open)...It was already layed out for the event...(even had the famous #16 bleachers and everything)...The only difference was that the greens had not been scalped yet were already very firm and fast...I manged to shoot 72 that day... If I had taken that as a two day score for the upcomming event I would have missed the cut by about 8 strokes...Had I actually played on the same days...my score probably would have been 6-8 stokes higher (right were the "club pros" that qualified ended up shooting)
Also...There are courses that are rated "over par"....on those courses that you manage to shoot even par..you would be considered a + handicapp.
The average score you pose above would fall into that catagory of course.
Heck...honestly I would be happy to shoot an 85 at Agusta under the conditions they will be playing it....
Most people just have no concept of how hard these courses actually are.
Am I being unfair...I don't think so...I don't know of any "club pros" that would not trade in that job to start playing on the tourn if they could shoot the scores.....(Are there some that are...sure...they end up with tour cards)
Honestly, in all the times I have played with him, I have never seen any sort of temper tantrum, throwing of clubs, banging clubs, or anything remotely associated with being mad, due to hitting a bad shot.
Now, around a pool table......
Golf is different.
Rick S.
Now, around a pool table......
Golf is different.
Rick S.
I remember Johnny Archer shooting a 79 from the tips at TPC Sawgrass a few years back. That's a strong score for a PGA player, never mind a professional pool player. IIRC, I believe John Schmidt was there that day - and - in his words (not mine) - "putting like a blind man."
BRKNRUN said:
Always interested in golf stories bud, even if it's in a PM in instalments!
Absolutely. Luckily for me my home club course here is a European PGA tour venue, the greens are rarely set at less than 11 on the stimp, it's playable all year round and members/guests with a hcp of 2 or under can play off the tips any time they like, so get lots of practice at reasonably close to Tour set ups.
Me too....and how. I've already pretty much disgraced myself in a European Seniors PGA Tour event after winning a qualifying competition for an amateur invitation slot into the event, really shouldn't have played as had a shoulder injury, but thought I might probably never get another chance to do it and didn't want to miss it. Have now been invited back to another for this later this season so they've obviously forgiven the scoring lapse. Am nowhere remotely near being good enough to play on the European Seniors PGA Tour and still be able to afford the rent and to eat......so will stay amateur
All things considered, being 55 and not having taken up golf til I was 47 am quite pleased with progress so far and will visit Uk to have my very first crack at The British Seniors Amateur Open in August. Might try a few US Senior Amateur opens next year as your courses are much more similar in general to here than Uk courses.
How right you are!