pt, sure. I could write much on being a graceful winner... to beating someone who was a graceful opponent.
When I play one of those for $10K I'll write the shee-at out of it.
Lou Figueroa
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pt, sure. I could write much on being a graceful winner... to beating someone who was a graceful opponent.
When I play one of those for $10K I'll write the shee-at out of it.
Lou Figueroa
I watched Chua BnR 2 or 3 and went to bed!
Justin is an L.A. player … who loves to play and gamble some. Great guy with a heart of gold. Solid dude...… glad to see him out there mixing it up. Wish I could have watched, but that F'n work always gets in the way!
i began watching when the score was 12 to 11...Marks favor
from there he beat JB 3 to 1 to get the $$$ and JB didn't get more than 4 balls in any of the games he lost. i think Marks needed 1 or 2 in the game that JB won
the portion of this match that I saw was similar to their first match (imo)....what conclusion can we draw as to whether or not this is "gambling"
would 9 to 6, 9 to 7 be gambling?
from there he beat JB 3 to 1 to get the $$$ and JB didn't get more than 4 balls in any of the games he lost. i think Marks needed 1 or 2 in the game that JB won
the portion of this match that I saw was similar to their first match (imo)....what conclusion can we draw as to whether or not this is "gambling"
would 9 to 6, 9 to 7 be gambling?
Well I disagree it only takes balls if the bet hurts there are many people who bet many times that amount as it's expendable cash they never miss it I don't call that balls by any stretch of the imagination
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Love you, Lou; you know I do. :smiling-heart:
But I'm gonna have to disagree with you here - respectfully.
John has found success in business, that's for sure, but not to the extent that $10k is an insignificant amount to him - no 'drop in the bucket', as they say.
Quite a bit different than the $20 to a "working man" or the $100 that is a lot to some other people examples that you provided.
John made a game with this Justin fellow whom, like yourself, I also do not know. John thought he could win and so he challenged himself and gave it a try. John lost 15-12. Not exactly a beat-down, imo.
I maintain, JB has a lot of heart.
best,
brian kc
Really are you his accountant ,
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Here here brother, anyone will bet high when they’re stealing or getting staked or both. Bet high when it’s a close game or even take a little bit the worst of it, bet your own money, and when it is close at the end, play good enough to win... that is HEART. If you don’t know this, then you don’t have any!
Maybe I'm confused. Who won the match?
The other guy( not John Barton)
one thought to consider here.
when a guy loses a $10k match their pride can have them saying all kinds of things. I don't have to be JB's accountant to know that when he lost to you in Edison, it stung - both to his pride and financially. How could it not?
Having run my own biz for over 27 years I can confirm that while, yes, a write-off is nice; it's not nearly as nice as having those 100 Ben Franklins in your pocket.
No matter how you care to slice it, JB is still a working man and $10k represents a lot of cases getting made.
Him gambling for that requires plenty of balls and heart.
again, imo. :wink:
best,
brian kc
My definition of Heart - Little Tommy Kennedy!
You're correct Brian, but the other side of that coin is he tried to high roll Lou, and Lou stepped up and played. I'm pretty certain that 10K was by far the most money he ever bet in his life! I don't usually side with Lou but he showed some heart as well.
respectfully disagree
John said that the 10k in the match with Lou was just advertising for his business. I would imagine he needs to win one of these 10k sets sooner or later though. If he is betting money he can't afford to lose, then that is on him.
Wonder if JB's wife and family think losing all that money is a good trade for all the "heart" it gives him (whatever that is).
I think he has a gambling problem, like lots of pool players.
pj
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Lou and JB woofed at each other for a very long time before that match ever took place.
Lou's team flew him to NJ and staked him.
JB bet his own.
As soon as Lou won I tried to get him to go again; had the $10k to stake JB in my Orvis bag. Lou said his team will discuss it but soon after that they filed out and were gone. Lou said later in a post here on az that they felt uncomfortable in an unfamiliar establishment (to them - Sandcastle) holding $20k cash.
I don't necessarily blame them for thinking like that but sure would have liked to see them go again.
best,
brian kc
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You know what it sometimes appears to me?
That everyone forgets that I was a $20 a game player and agreed to play for $10K; endured months of online harassment from JB while I stayed silent; flew to a strange venue; played in front of three cameras; and played an opponent who regularly plays for hundreds and thousands.
Yes, I was staked for *part* of my side, however, I was betting my own for part of that bet, for an amount exponentially more than I had ever bet in my life.
For all the arm chair warriors: most of you have no idea what it is like to play under those conditions. And honestly, it was a miracle and personal victory that my game didn't fall apart -- and that was what JB was counting on and that was not such a bad bet on his part. IMO, all of what I did took far more heart than anything JB did, to include setting up to be coached on the sidelines by an open level player during the match.
Lou Figueroa