Big Action Still In Progress! John Barton vs Justin Marks!

That's about all I have to say about that.
 

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One udder thing.

Gambling high does not automatically imbue heart or gamble. This is one of the great myths perpetuated in pool by the guys who want the suckers and losers to keep coming back for more. They even have names like "nit" and "no-gamble" to goad players into believing a bad, illogical premise.

To me, a working man who gets up and plays for $20 a game, shows far more heart than a successful businessman who makes a bad game and gambles away $10,000 in spending money which, in some cases (lol, sometimes I crack myself up) he is likely to write off as a business expense.

If Hallmark ever comes up with a card for pool players, it'll probably say, "You showed a lot of heart and gamble." You'll find it in the "Sympathy" section, right next to the funeral cards expressing grief for your loss.

Lou Figueroa
 
Wow, the logic and more rationalization.
$10K is a lot of gamble for someone who is not a millionaire.
$20 is not a gamble unless you're homeless.
 
Wait, lol. Lol some more to show maturity.
Not hating? Posts a picture then downplays the 10k bet.
Lol
Wait, lol.
 
Wow, the logic and more rationalization.
$10K is a lot of gamble for someone who is not a millionaire.
$20 is not a gamble unless you're homeless.


Unless you are someone's accountant you would have no way of knowing squadoush about how much gamble any bet is for anyone.

Lou Figueroa
 
Wait, lol. Lol some more to show maturity.
Not hating? Posts a picture then downplays the 10k bet.
Lol
Wait, lol.


If we're going to talk on the subject of maturity you might start by considering how immature it is for you to be stalking me in this thread.

Lou Figueroa
just a thought
 
"Betting high" or showing "heart" is relative, IMO.

For some guys, given a particular skill level, experience, and financials, betting $100 is "betting high" and "showing heart." For other guys, given their particular experience and financials, it's more like a junkie who needs a bigger dose to get their blood pumping. And frankly, for some of these guys, you can forget about skill being part of the equation.

Making bad games does not equal "heart." And,

Betting what you can afford does not equal "heart."

There are plenty of foolish ways to get an adrenaline rush -- chasing the rush dan't automatically justify stupid.

Lou Figueroa


Lou,

I know there is bad blood between you and JB but geez....let the guy play. This matchup had nothing to do with you, he is betting his own money and he is a grown adult. So is the other guy.
You are starting to come across as a lil "whiney". Give it a rest.
 
One udder thing.

Gambling high does not automatically imbue heart or gamble. This is one of the great myths perpetuated in pool by the guys who want the suckers and losers to keep coming back for more. They even have names like "nit" and "no-gamble" to goad players into believing a bad, illogical premise.

To me, a working man who gets up and plays for $20 a game, shows far more heart than a successful businessman who makes a bad game and gambles away $10,000 in spending money which, in some cases (lol, sometimes I crack myself up) he is likely to write off as a business expense.

If Hallmark ever comes up with a card for pool players, it'll probably say, "You showed a lot of heart and gamble." You'll find it in the "Sympathy" section, right next to the funeral cards expressing grief for your loss.

Lou Figueroa

Love you, Lou; you know I do. :smiling-heart:

But I'm gonna have to disagree with you here - respectfully. ;)

John has found success in business, that's for sure, but not to the extent that $10k is an insignificant amount to him - no 'drop in the bucket', as they say.

Quite a bit different than the $20 to a "working man" or the $100 that is a lot to some other people examples that you provided.

John made a game with this Justin fellow whom, like yourself, I also do not know. John thought he could win and so he challenged himself and gave it a try. John lost 15-12. Not exactly a beat-down, imo.

I maintain, JB has a lot of heart.

best,
brian kc
 
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It is heart warming to see the Barton Chicken Wing still flies.

Lou Figueroa

There have always been people in the gambling world that take losses hard...
....and they usually get some leeway....they tried and died.

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But you, Lou, as one of our better writers, could maybe give us a treatise on winning...
....and how to be a graceful winner.


pt...another country heard from
 
Just who is this Justin Marks fella that he is able to gamble 10k? His $ or backers? I've never heard or seen the name mentioned.
 
And you're a CPA and know $10K for Barton is not some gambling?


When we played, JB himself said $10K was just extra dough for him. People were saying he was hurting his family and he said no way -- the money was nothing to him.

AND he also said he'd write it off as a biz-a-ness expense.

Lou Figueroa
 
Lou,

I know there is bad blood between you and JB but geez....let the guy play. This matchup had nothing to do with you, he is betting his own money and he is a grown adult. So is the other guy.
You are starting to come across as a lil "whiney". Give it a rest.


He played.

The video is up.

Open season.

Having said all that, I've been trying to address larger issues that Mr. Chicken brought up about heart and gamble and all that stuff there. I have tried, other than the chicken wing photo and a specific issue brought up by Joey, to try and not make it about him and to speak to a larger issue.

Lou Figueroa
 
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Love you, Lou; you know I do. :smiling-heart:

But I'm gonna have to disagree with you here - respectfully. ;)

John has found success in business, that's for sure, but not to the extent that $10k is an insignificant amount to him - no 'drop in the bucket', as they say.

Quite a bit different than the $20 to a "working man" or the $100 that is a lot to some other people examples that you provided.

John made a game with this Justin fellow whom, like yourself, I also do not know. John thought he could win and so he challenged himself and gave it a try. John lost 15-12. Not exactly a beat-down, imo.

I maintain, JB has a lot of heart.

best,
brian kc

Brian, love you too, but I only beat John, I think, 9-6. A pretty similar spread. And I'm only going based upon what John himself said -- that the $10K was nothing to him and he'd write it off as a business expense on his taxes as PR.

And, he was a cheat during our match, getting coached, as observed and attested to by several AZ witnesses here.

Where's the "lot of heart" there?

Lou Figueroa
 
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When I see a guy with a giant chickenwing stroke like that with huge bodymovements and crumby alignment, I wonder, where are his friends at? I sure hope that if I start doing stuff like that and bet huge money on myself to win, that my friends would at least talk to me about fixing my technique. When the big pressure is on, inconsistent and inaccurate techniques like that fall apart like houses of cards. That has always been true and will remain so to the end of time.

The people talking about "heart" and stuff like that are not your friends. They are the ones laughing behind your back and betting against you. People who flatter you when you lose are not to be trusted. They want you to keep failing.

But you know...do whatever you want.
 
He's played and done well...

Just who is this Justin Marks fella that he is able to gamble 10k? His $ or backers? I've never heard or seen the name mentioned.

He's a west coast Cali player who doesn't really travel. He's played and done well on the mezz west state tour.

Jaden
 
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