poolsucker said:
I heard a story about a scumbag pool player who beats on women. Karma's a beehawtch, innit?
Biggest Air Barrels you have ever seen or heard of !!!
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I heard a story about a scumbag pool player who beats on women. Karma's a beehawtch, innit?
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This sounds made up. I don't think you stall for $40k a game, especially when you are firing air! Sounds good though!!!
freddy the beard said:
This sounds made up. I don't think you stall for $40k a game, especially when you are firing air! Sounds good though!!!
Air Barrel
This is just a funny story of an "air barrel" that could have been, and one of the biggest and funniest "air barrels" that I was privileged to witness.
Back in the 60’s in El Monte, CA I played a guy called Big George (or Crazy George) some $20 one-pocket with just $20 in my pocket. I knew he was good for 2 or 3 hundred dollars if I beat him and he played just under me in “speed”. Well, needless to say he won the first game and I paid him $20 and continued playing. The wind-up was, I beat him 4 games in a row and after winning the 4th game he handed me a hundred dollar bill. Of course I didn’t have change for the hundred and it suddenly dawned on him I might have been playing without any money after he beat me that first game. He demanded I show him some money and I told him I didn’t have change for his hundred because I only had hundred dollar bills, and I didn’t have to show him ANYTHING. He was so furious, he demanded I play for $40 a game, which I consented to, and I feigned being indignant and demanded we should both post $40, which he agreed to. The wind-up was, I beat him for $280 in cash and he couldn’t do what I was going to do to him, fire that “air gun” at him. That was a good score back then, when “Motel 6” really meant $6 for a room.
We played at 5 Points Bowling Alley, where there was a lot of pool action back then. A hilarious episode happened that same day. A pool player named "Harry the Horse" played another pool player sessions for $300 and the player lost two sessions. A stranger "sweating" the action on the side stuck his nose in the game and said he would back the player if he wanted to play anymore. Needless to say, Harry won two more sessions, for a $1200 score. Well, the next day Harry comes into the poolroom after a trip to the bank to deposit his winnings. The stranger had backed the player with $600 in counterfeit money, which was confiscated at the bank when Harry tried to deposit it. The serial numbers of the $20 bills were all the same. The stranger never did reappear in the poolroom again. Whenever I hear the comment, "I wouldn't play that match with counterfeit money" I think back to the "Harry the Horse" counterfeit money match.
This is just a funny story of an "air barrel" that could have been, and one of the biggest and funniest "air barrels" that I was privileged to witness.
Back in the 60’s in El Monte, CA I played a guy called Big George (or Crazy George) some $20 one-pocket with just $20 in my pocket. I knew he was good for 2 or 3 hundred dollars if I beat him and he played just under me in “speed”. Well, needless to say he won the first game and I paid him $20 and continued playing. The wind-up was, I beat him 4 games in a row and after winning the 4th game he handed me a hundred dollar bill. Of course I didn’t have change for the hundred and it suddenly dawned on him I might have been playing without any money after he beat me that first game. He demanded I show him some money and I told him I didn’t have change for his hundred because I only had hundred dollar bills, and I didn’t have to show him ANYTHING. He was so furious, he demanded I play for $40 a game, which I consented to, and I feigned being indignant and demanded we should both post $40, which he agreed to. The wind-up was, I beat him for $280 in cash and he couldn’t do what I was going to do to him, fire that “air gun” at him. That was a good score back then, when “Motel 6” really meant $6 for a room.
We played at 5 Points Bowling Alley, where there was a lot of pool action back then. A hilarious episode happened that same day. A pool player named "Harry the Horse" played another pool player sessions for $300 and the player lost two sessions. A stranger "sweating" the action on the side stuck his nose in the game and said he would back the player if he wanted to play anymore. Needless to say, Harry won two more sessions, for a $1200 score. Well, the next day Harry comes into the poolroom after a trip to the bank to deposit his winnings. The stranger had backed the player with $600 in counterfeit money, which was confiscated at the bank when Harry tried to deposit it. The serial numbers of the $20 bills were all the same. The stranger never did reappear in the poolroom again. Whenever I hear the comment, "I wouldn't play that match with counterfeit money" I think back to the "Harry the Horse" counterfeit money match.
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I'll give Whitey Walker credit for teaching me the 3 rules of pool:
1. Get the Nuts
2. Make em post
3. The sucker is always right
I have never aired anyone. Been aired a few.
There used to be an old time hustler named Troy Richards that lived in St. Louis. Troy grew up around pool about the time the bar table was introduced & used to go around the country hustling. He was also a decent one pocket player. Anyways, Troy told me once the IRS came to him, wanting to do an audit, etc. since he had never filed taxes. When the IRS agent asked him what he did for a living, Troy told him that he owned an air barrel factory. He said it took him 20 minutes to explain it to the IRS. They left him alone after that.
1. Get the Nuts
2. Make em post
3. The sucker is always right
I have never aired anyone. Been aired a few.
There used to be an old time hustler named Troy Richards that lived in St. Louis. Troy grew up around pool about the time the bar table was introduced & used to go around the country hustling. He was also a decent one pocket player. Anyways, Troy told me once the IRS came to him, wanting to do an audit, etc. since he had never filed taxes. When the IRS agent asked him what he did for a living, Troy told him that he owned an air barrel factory. He said it took him 20 minutes to explain it to the IRS. They left him alone after that.
Apparently you have zero hustling experience
The man (Archie) has traveled over 2 thousand miles to play a "sucker." I am at least 10 to 6 better than him. Should I just open up and run out on him and expose myself and cause enough heat to maybe not get paid? In order to cash those 25k chips, he had to call the Casino and ok it, because he was the only gambler in the world that had 25k chips.
the Beard
billychips said:
The man (Archie) has traveled over 2 thousand miles to play a "sucker." I am at least 10 to 6 better than him. Should I just open up and run out on him and expose myself and cause enough heat to maybe not get paid? In order to cash those 25k chips, he had to call the Casino and ok it, because he was the only gambler in the world that had 25k chips.
the Beard
A Double Barrelled Air Gun, or Up In Smoke
In the early 70's, I was hanging out at an all-night action poolroom called Hard Times in Newport Beach, CA. A well-known gambler called "Charlie the Ape" visited after-hours occasionally. Charlie was a card player, backer and half-ass bar table player, but an action guy all the way. Charlie matched up in a Gin game for five hundred dollars, but neither player trusted anyone to hold the stake money, which was a thousand dollars. They both agreed to put the 10 one-hundred dollar bills in an empty Marlboro cigarette pack and leave it on the table they were sitting and playing at. Early the next morning, with both players deeply engrossed in their game, the janitor arrived and started cleaning up the poolroom. When he got to their table he emptied the ashtrays, squeezed the Marlboro pack, decided it was empty and threw all the trash onto the smouldering coals of the fireplace nearby. When the mistake was finally realized, the rush to the fireplace produced only a charred corner of a hundred dollar bill, the rest had gone up in smoke. I guess you could call it a $1,000 smoking, double barrelled air gun.
In the early 70's, I was hanging out at an all-night action poolroom called Hard Times in Newport Beach, CA. A well-known gambler called "Charlie the Ape" visited after-hours occasionally. Charlie was a card player, backer and half-ass bar table player, but an action guy all the way. Charlie matched up in a Gin game for five hundred dollars, but neither player trusted anyone to hold the stake money, which was a thousand dollars. They both agreed to put the 10 one-hundred dollar bills in an empty Marlboro cigarette pack and leave it on the table they were sitting and playing at. Early the next morning, with both players deeply engrossed in their game, the janitor arrived and started cleaning up the poolroom. When he got to their table he emptied the ashtrays, squeezed the Marlboro pack, decided it was empty and threw all the trash onto the smouldering coals of the fireplace nearby. When the mistake was finally realized, the rush to the fireplace produced only a charred corner of a hundred dollar bill, the rest had gone up in smoke. I guess you could call it a $1,000 smoking, double barrelled air gun.
Considering the fact that you were broke, yeah, I would say it would be a good idea to win the first few games. Anyway, its your "story," tell it however you like. If you were such a good hustler in this scenario, how do you only win 100k, when you come out of the gate betting 40k a game. Do the math. If this were true, I wouldnt be happy with winning 100 large. Sounds like you left a ton on the table! I will wager a decent amount that nobody can accurately confirm this story.freddy the beard said:
billychips said:
Will your wager be an air barrel?
lol
I sure will! But I will set him up, I will dump the first few games, even though I am broke, in hopes of winning 3 air-barrels. Put that in your book!MisterBanker said:Will your wager be an air barrel?
...In my defense...
In my defense and my response to you is.....NOTHING! I've given you enough ink and attention. Go out and do something memorable and we'll let you rant a little more. By the way, who are you, and what have you done that earns you a knocker's opinion?
the Beard
billychips said:
In my defense and my response to you is.....NOTHING! I've given you enough ink and attention. Go out and do something memorable and we'll let you rant a little more. By the way, who are you, and what have you done that earns you a knocker's opinion?
the Beard
I'll just break you guys off with the AirBarrels from This month..
Played a Florida Spirit Tour (woman) player. 8-ball, $5 a game, won $80. 9-ball, $100 a set, I won two sets. She pays me $80, disputes the amount she now owes me, and promises she'll pay me 'tomorrow'. This was like 3 weeks ago.
The next night I play some kid who's been in the pool hall losing his shirt and paying it off. He lost $500 to one guy, and lost $700 to my friend - and he paid them in full. I beat the kid $540 playing ten a game 9-ball. He pays me off $200 and promises the rest ($340) in the same week.... I haven't seen him in a while either.
I've probably got like $700 or more in the air in my pool hall.. for this month...... and I thought THEY were the suckers.
Played a Florida Spirit Tour (woman) player. 8-ball, $5 a game, won $80. 9-ball, $100 a set, I won two sets. She pays me $80, disputes the amount she now owes me, and promises she'll pay me 'tomorrow'. This was like 3 weeks ago.
The next night I play some kid who's been in the pool hall losing his shirt and paying it off. He lost $500 to one guy, and lost $700 to my friend - and he paid them in full. I beat the kid $540 playing ten a game 9-ball. He pays me off $200 and promises the rest ($340) in the same week.... I haven't seen him in a while either.
I've probably got like $700 or more in the air in my pool hall.. for this month...... and I thought THEY were the suckers.
I am a nobody. But I do know bullshit when I see it. I actually looked forward to buying a copy of your book, until I saw this latest post. You and I both know that this is ridiculous. First of all, any gambler, that flies 2000 miles to play a game of pool, is going to make the guy post, especially for 40k a game. If you would have said you were playing some 40k sets, maybe races to at least 5 or more, I might have believed it could be possible. Nobody with ZERO money in their pockets starts out at 40k a game, and lays down. You said yourself you ran out the first rack. The guy could obviously play a little, since according to you, he ran the next rack when you didnt make a ball on the break. You have already established a pay after each game standard. What would you have done if he wins game 3? I suppose you jacked the bet from there to a 100k a game??? I probably shouldnt have even posted on this thread, and stayed out of your business. However, to be perfectly honest with you, I couldnt help myself. It was such a BS story that I just had to call you out on it. If you would have at least made it a little more realistic, maybe I could have kept my mouth shut. Anyway, I too am done with this thread. Good luck with the book!!! Hopefully it will be in the fiction section of our favorite bookstores.freddy the beard said:
AZE said:
look on the bright side.. as long as they owe you, you will never be broke! LOL By the way if you want the 3 out tonight we can play some $ 100 a game but if you win, the girl and guy that owe you also owe me so if you beat me as soon as they pay me I will pay you.. WHAT TIME YOU WANT TO PLAY?
I like the story but who lowered the bet to $ 25K a game and what was the reason or excuse to do it
We didnt lower the bet
We didnt lower the bet. After see-sawing even playing 8 ball, we switched to 1pkt and raised it to 100k. I was about to win the 200k he had in his pocket when the houseman at the bowling alley made us quit because they were closing. I only needed one ball, but the house only gave us five minutes to play before he shut off the lights.
As to the veracity of this story, Billychips is only flaunting his ignorance because most of the people in the hustling world all already know the whole story. Ask Danny Di, Greg Sullivan, Larry Swartz, Billy Incardona, Artie B, Richie Ambrose, Wade Crane, Buddy Hall, etc., etc., etc.
the Beard
thebighurt said:
We didnt lower the bet. After see-sawing even playing 8 ball, we switched to 1pkt and raised it to 100k. I was about to win the 200k he had in his pocket when the houseman at the bowling alley made us quit because they were closing. I only needed one ball, but the house only gave us five minutes to play before he shut off the lights.
As to the veracity of this story, Billychips is only flaunting his ignorance because most of the people in the hustling world all already know the whole story. Ask Danny Di, Greg Sullivan, Larry Swartz, Billy Incardona, Artie B, Richie Ambrose, Wade Crane, Buddy Hall, etc., etc., etc.
the Beard