Billiards Digest Hits the Nail on the Head

JAM

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Mike Panozzo's From the Publisher column has once again hit the nail on the head ---> HERE.

Everybody *does* say what pool needs is another movie. Yet, when something pops up in mainstream media about pool, nobody takes the bull by the horns and runs with it. Now it's too late for the Prince Harry frenzy, but the opportunity was there, just waiting for the taking. :cool:

I always said that ice skating got put on the map when Tanya Harding whacked Nancy Kerrigan in the knee. Thereafter, all eyes were glued on ice skating. It rose in popularity tenfold. :grin-square:

Most pool enthusiasts agree that pool needs a boost in the United States, but nobody can agree on how to accomplish this task. Sure, a movie would be great or even a well-written book. A biography of the Stu Ungar of pool might be the ticket. The pool action junkies would love it, but the pool purists would thumb their nose at such an endeavor and claim a book like this would push pool further down in its proverbial gutter. :sorry:

There's a lot of megalomania in pool today. Big egos tend to discount the efforts of others, unless they're involved, of course. Oftentimes pool events are criticized before they gain traction by the American pool culture. I am reminded of the "Galveston, Oh, Galveston."

I'll leave my thoughts about the BCA aside for purposes of this thread, but I believe there is a glaring problem the BCA needs to address, and that's its own negligence of professional pool. :wink:

Until the American pool culture can come to an agreement that gambling, pool's dirty little secret, just might be the accelerant to launch pool to the next frontier, nothing will change. Pool will continue along its merry little way to oblivion, ending up in a status similar to what back yard croquet is today. :embarrassed2:

This is yet another one of those threads about what's wrong with pool, I agree. Maybe someday, somebody, somewhere, somehow will effect a change in pool without getting shot down before they get off the ground. :)
 
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Movie Sugestion or Maybe Question?

Has anybody ever thought / sugested doing a movie about Louie Roberts? It seems that the story would be perfect for a movie / mystery. There are still a lot of people around who new him and what happened. Why not?
 
Ron Howard is trying to get a major studio interested in Stephen King's Dark Tower series but two, I forget which ones, have turned him down already. Supposedly too violent:rolleyes:
Just another example of how hard it is to get something off the ground sometimes. Wonder if anyone has approached Martin Scorsese about a pool movie lately?
 
Has anybody ever thought / sugested doing a movie about Louie Roberts? It seems that the story would be perfect for a movie / mystery. There are still a lot of people around who new him and what happened. Why not?

I would love to see this story on screen. (as well as several others, *nudge *nudge JAM!)
 
It would be great if they would do "The Color of Money". Don't say they did because they didn't.

Dave Nelson
 
Pools doing fine!

Only in this country is pool having a problem. We just dont have any players that can get the public's attention. These guys are not worth watching and the pool media hasnt created any buzz around them either.

China, Japan, Europe, Canada the game is doing well, on TV and expanding.

Gambling wont help the game, we need players and a form for them to be seen.
 
I always said that ice skating got put on the map when Tanya Harding whacked Nancy Kerrigan in the knee. Thereafter, all eyes were glued on ice skating. It rose in popularity tenfold. :grin-square:


I don't know if pool would rise in popularity if Earl Strickland whacked Johnny Archer in the knees with a pool cue ... but it sure would be interesting.
 
I've said it before...do a reality tv show (I mean come on! If America will watch Honey Boo Boo Child, they'll watch anything) and...a bio pic of a compelling character from a compelling age. Either Greenleaf or St. Louis Louis. I like either one...Greenleaf can span the thirties and forties, costume dramas, gangsters, addiction, history, it's all compelling and all there. Louis Roberts is the same with the added appeal of the recent timing--many would love it because it will remind them of their youth. The soundtrack alone will make millions! Both characters were good looking, deeply flawed characters that actors would kill their agents to play.:grin-square:
 
Until the American pool culture can come to an agreement that gambling, pool's dirty little secret, just might be the accelerant to launch pool to the next frontier, nothing will change. Pool will continue along its merry little way to oblivion, ending up in a status similar to what back yard croquet is today. :embarrassed2:

If you are right, then you'd better head down to your nearest Academy Sports and Outdoors store and buy a set of wooden balls and a couple of mallets :eek:. If it's the love of/hate of gambling that keeps pool downspiralling in this country, then I can almost assure you that pool "will continue along it's merry little way to oblivion". Surely you must know that for every person that you can find that wholeheartedly believes that gambling on pool is the way to lift pool out of its doldrums, you will have a person that thinks just the opposite. Many people, poolplayers included, simply do not believe that gambling in ANY form, let alone in pool, is a healthy/smart endeavor to participate in. There are many people who just plain are disgusted with gambling and have a high degree of disdain towards it. Leave poolplayers out of it and have a poll (ask a thousand or more peopl on the street), and you will probably find more persons against gambling in general than you will for it.

Lord help us if it's going to take gambling to bring pool back up to where it should be. Rest assured, public opinion is not going to change on this subject anytime soon.

FTR, I am "on the fence" as far as gambling goes. I don't care what people do with their money (or anyone else that wishes to stake someone). I personally do not gamble. I won't take a chance on losing something that I worked so hard to earn/achieve. If someone else wants to do that, more power to them. I have seen lives destroyed AND lives enhanced through gambling. Let it be known that I am neither for it nor against it.

But I respectfully disagree that gambling is going to be what may save pool.

Just my thoughts. I hope for all the best for you & Keith!!!

Maniac
 
The book was far better than the moive (Color Of Money) Have a signed copy that Tivis's neice gave to me when it first came out.
I have often thought a movie about Wille and all that he went through would be great, along with a movie about Greenleaf--just noodling.
 
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I have been thinking about this the last couple of months and it seems to me that a movie about Earl would get people interested in pool again. What made him change from a normal person to a raving lunatic when he is in a tournament?

And now the last two tournaments I watched him he acts almost human again. I think the title could be Jekyl and Hyde unless that has already been used.
 
A movie based on Danny Diliberto's 'Road Player'.....
...and the tragic story of Danny's star student, Mike Carella, will
do pool just fine...I'd love to see it.

But I'm extremely worried about the casting....if the moron who put
Tom Cruise up to portray Jack Reacher has a say in it, I'll barf.

Mike had a very healthy life style, few bad habits....and a pilot's license.
His sports gambling put him in a spot where he had to fly in a shipment...
...and it cost him his life.

But I say let the action stories come out....that is what the public was
fascinated with when it came to pool...NOT some OCD guy taking 4 hours
to rack the balls perfect.
 
I don't know if pool would rise in popularity if Earl Strickland whacked Johnny Archer in the knees with a pool cue ... but it sure would be interesting.

Didn't he already do that? But I don't think anyone noticed. :grin:
 
I liked this line in the article

''You see, I don't know anything about pool. I don't like what's on the table, but what's around the table, the intrigue, the manipulations.''
 
Reality TV
Wrestling
Poker
Shows where people get kicked off of islands because of their conniving cohorts
Shows where people are publically humiliated because they can't hold a tune
Stars who wreck cars and lives while stoned
Presidents caught in flagrante delicto

America loves epic fails even more than successes--we'll remember a naked prince shooting pool, long after we've forgotten who won what during the last Olympics.

So...yes, if Earl would bang someone over the head with a folding chair at a major tournament, it'd be a YouTube hit.
 
Until the American pool culture can come to an agreement that gambling, pool's dirty little secret, just might be the accelerant to launch pool to the next frontier, nothing will change.

Until the American pool culture comes to recognize that being intimately associated with gambling is one of the forces preventing pool from blossoming, nothing will change.
 
JAM...I'm pretty sure you already know this...but Galveston failed because the promoters would not divulge any necessary significant information about the event ahead of time. They (the Rone bros.) were offered insight and advice from any number of knowledgeable people here, and chose not only to not respond to the posts, but went out of their way to be "secretive" about what was going to happen. As such, people who normally make plans to attend events like that months in advance, chose not to attend...causing short fan attendance and few participants, other than the pro events (which had prize funds seriously cut in the middle of the tournament). All of these things left a sour taste in the mouths of everybody...including the "deep pockets" investor, who backed the entire event. Too bad...it could have been a great event.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

Oftentimes pool events are criticized before they gain traction by the American pool culture. I am reminded of the "Galveston, Oh, Galveston."
 
Mitch...While I agree with you in principle, look at mainstream gambling in this country already. Nearly every state has indian casinos. Many states have state lotteries, and of course the national lotteries cause people to buy tickets in a frenzy, when the prize pots go up over a couple hundred million dollars. Nobody criticizes these gambling outlets, and almost everybody participates on some level. Gambling is rampant in our society, and certainly causes any number of social ills and addictions. I don't know what the answer is, but I'm not sure either you or JAM are right.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

Until the American pool culture comes to recognize that being intimately associated with gambling is one of the forces preventing pool from blossoming, nothing will change.
 
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