Black Boar Question
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I don't quite understand their website (See Below). It appears they only make 10 cues a year but the lead time is only 6-10 weeks to 6 months!!!
Cue Pricing and Availability
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Tony and Donnie are currently capable of producing only 4 high-end collectible cues per year, and only 6 player's cues. If you are interested in purchasing a new Black Boar, be prepared to wait 6 weeks for an African Blackwood player's cue, and a minimum of 10 weeks for a high-end cue - these collectible cues can take up to 6 months to build depending on their intricacy and complexity of design. However, Tony and Donnie never stop building cues, so feel free to call the shop to see if anything is coming down the line sooner.
I don't quite understand their website (See Below). It appears they only make 10 cues a year but the lead time is only 6-10 weeks to 6 months!!!
Cue Pricing and Availability
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Tony and Donnie are currently capable of producing only 4 high-end collectible cues per year, and only 6 player's cues. If you are interested in purchasing a new Black Boar, be prepared to wait 6 weeks for an African Blackwood player's cue, and a minimum of 10 weeks for a high-end cue - these collectible cues can take up to 6 months to build depending on their intricacy and complexity of design. However, Tony and Donnie never stop building cues, so feel free to call the shop to see if anything is coming down the line sooner.
Low production and high quality is why black boar is not cheap. I expect they do not work to hard on the website so it is probably not up to date. Make a call you might get on the list I would not be suprised if they told you the list was closed. Good luck in your pursuit of a black boar.
Their turn around time is relatively short. I believe the "players" cues start at $4000-6000 at the high end cues get into the multiple 10's of thousands. I know guys who have had one made and received it in a few months.
If you have the money, you can order one and have it relatively quickly depending on if you can get in and if they have anything extra that is not claimed.
waiting now my LIFETIME Player
I paid my Order last week and Donnie said about 3 Month
but you have to pay the FULL Amount in front first before they start.
I asked Donnie in beginning January for a Cue/Design and after he told me the Amount I wired the Money( 2 Weeks later) and now they START
hope this helps
Ralf
I paid my Order last week and Donnie said about 3 Month
but you have to pay the FULL Amount in front first before they start.
I asked Donnie in beginning January for a Cue/Design and after he told me the Amount I wired the Money( 2 Weeks later) and now they START
hope this helps
Ralf
Thanks
Thanks Ralf it does...just wish I had a Thai girl to throw in to shorten the lead-time! Just kidding buddy...Thanks
Wedge
I paid my Order last week and Donnie said about 3 Month
but you have to pay the FULL Amount in front first before they start.
I asked Donnie in beginning January for a Cue/Design and after he told me the Amount I wired the Money( 2 Weeks later) and now they START
hope this helps
Ralf
Thanks Ralf it does...just wish I had a Thai girl to throw in to shorten the lead-time! Just kidding buddy...Thanks
Wedge
get a Lambros instead
If you care about value, get almost anything instead.
Not that they don't make a great cue, because they do but......
Why would you want to overspend on a cue when there are so many other makers that can build you a cue of the same quality for 25% of the price.
I know this post is going to be unpopular with all you BB guys but honestly I see Tony as a snake oil salesman. Someone PLEASE tell me what is SO much better about a BB and I'll never bash them again.
For the same reason you would spend $4500+ on a PFD. They Can.
If you care about value, get almost anything instead.
Not that they don't make a great cue, because they do but......
Why would you want to overspend on a cue when there are so many other makers that can build you a cue of the same quality for 25% of the price.
I know this post is going to be unpopular with all you BB guys but honestly I see Tony as a snake oil salesman. Someone PLEASE tell me what is SO much better about a BB and I'll never bash them again.
tap, tap, tap
Sorry, not really the same. I don't think you understood the context of the question.
"Why would you?" In other words it's a bad decision based on the facts. When you consider aspects such as value. My $4500 PFD would be $10K +++ from BB. So how does that equate to value?
I know some of you are going to state that thats the "market value" right now. While that may be the case at present, there won't always be people like Tikkler around to hype the crap out of them so people are willing to spend more than it's really worth.
I have never owned a black boar and prob never will. I have played with several though. Tony arguably makes one of the finest looking cues on the planet. He is truly an artist, his cues are amazing. That being said that is why they are so sought after.
They do not however, play that good in my opinion. I dont think a lot of good players would really disagree with me. The ferrule-less design on his shaft is really not a smart idea for the long term playability of the shaft, as it is bound to cause very slight micro cracks in the shaft.
They do not however, play that good in my opinion. I dont think a lot of good players would really disagree with me. The ferrule-less design on his shaft is really not a smart idea for the long term playability of the shaft, as it is bound to cause very slight micro cracks in the shaft.
My intent was not to thread jack btw, apologies to OP. Just saw the thread and threw props for Lambros...I personally think they are the best playing shafts one can find. But just like anything, it is completely subjective. Some may say black boar cues are the best. I know Kevin West like his...
I don't think you understood my answer. People buy items like this because they can. There value compared to other items means nothing. Much like yourself, I would not spend that much on a BB knowing I can get something else for a better value but I am happy that there are others that can support cue makers like the folks at BB so that we can enjoy their works of art.
I may be wrong but, I don't think they have a website. I think the one you are referring to is run by a BIG BB collector.
Pete
Pete
Which one has better re-sale value now ?
I dont know much about Black Boar cues, but I think anyone who is paying $1000's for a cue, is surely already aware that they can buy a nice cue for less, so no need to point this out. Its a personal CHOICE to buy the more expensive cue.
This is an age-old question and there is no right or wrong answer. We dont all spend big bucks on cues (I dont), but we ALL have some area in our life where we do "overspend", be it clothes, cars, houses, TV's whatever, we all spend more than is needed in certain areas.
The same question is "How does BMW sell any cars at all, since a Honda does the exact same thing?" (you get the idea)
This is an age-old question and there is no right or wrong answer. We dont all spend big bucks on cues (I dont), but we ALL have some area in our life where we do "overspend", be it clothes, cars, houses, TV's whatever, we all spend more than is needed in certain areas.
The same question is "How does BMW sell any cars at all, since a Honda does the exact same thing?" (you get the idea)
Well, I guess we'll see since Tikkler is selling a few of his.
And if you take into consideration what you had to pay for it in the first place, and consider the difference, you'll see which is a better value.
I'm sorry, but anyone who pays $8K for a plain Jane player with a spider on the buttsleeve needs to have his head examined.