Black King Tips Reviews

I recieved the tips Friday and will get to try the soft out tonight and I will agree with everyone else they do install and trim very nicely. Good looking tips and I will leave further feedback after shooting a while with it this evening and thanks for sending the sample's.--Leonard
 
Great tips, I have tried all 3, Takes me two days for each tip to get a true evaluation, Excellent job gluing the layers together, shapes very well, does not fall apart when burnishing. I like the hard for my Micarta ferrule shaft and the medium for my shaft with melamine ferrule. I put a soft on for a local, he called after a couple of days and is very pleased.
 
based upon everything good people had to say ,
even though i havent installed any yet,
i went ahead and ordered some more
im going with my hunch :thumbup:
 
I got to try out the soft tip for several hours last night and I think it plays great with no mushrooming or glazing over. --Leonard
 
Pay day was Fri so will be making my order with Robert.
I have a hunch that your hunch is correct Brent.

From my conversations with Robert, he seems like a genuine type of guy and I believe what I have been told. He trusted me so I will put my trust in him.

I will be looking forward to trying these out.
 
Still waiting for my samples to show up....it always takes a long time to ship to Canada.

I am excited to try them out though
 
Customer service is a must in this small industry. JMHO

Really, Is it just your humble opinion or do you like being s s hit disturber?

You seem to like ragging on Bassel and now over here.
Ever stop to think that maybe there were alot of people asking for free tips that aren't repairmen or makers? Hard to keep track of everyone.
Whats Robert supposed to do, give everbody on AZ 3 free tips?

If you missed out, you missed out. Whats that got to do with customer service.

I didn't ask for free tips. I am going to order some and Robert will throw a couple my way with the first order.

From my conversations with Robert he is very customer service orientated. This isn't his first rodeo.

Don't be a big crybaby. 3 ITraders and you're telling people how to run thier biz.
 
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Still waiting for my samples to show up....it always takes a long time to ship to Canada.

I am excited to try them out though
Darcy,

I mailed your samples on Oct. 5 to the address you provided on our website. If you don't get them in a day or 2 let me know and I will send out some more. I surprised the other samples I sent got to New Zealand and Germany before Canada... Hmmmmm I wonder if any of the other guys in Canada got theirs yet?
 
Its just the nature of the postal service. I find that I get some tips and items from China quicker than I can get from the US.
 
I got the tips from Robert very quickly and finally get to try out all 3 harnesses in the last couple of weeks. They all takes glue well and very nice/easy to trim off, hold shape/chalk well although I did have to re-trim the S tip once because of a bit mushrooming, other than that the all plays really well, and it looks good too with the tan base. I like the S and M for my stiff hitting cue, the H would be a perfect fit for a tad softer hit cue IMO........

Overall I think its the best tip for the money at this point and I am going to order more from Robert, I already have couple of requests for it:thumbup:
 
Darcy,

I mailed your samples on Oct. 5 to the address you provided on our website. If you don't get them in a day or 2 let me know and I will send out some more. I surprised the other samples I sent got to New Zealand and Germany before Canada... Hmmmmm I wonder if any of the other guys in Canada got theirs yet?

I'm noy surprised at all :)
Terry has it right, unless its shipped priority, China ships faster than US most of the time,
Nothing new for us :D
 
I am going to add the Black King tips to the range of tips I am stocking.
Will post pictures and the results of our blind back to back testing in about a weeks time.
They trim very nicely , look good and I thought they all played very well.
Definitely, these tips are in the higher end of manufacture and quality.
Neil
 
I received my samples in a timely matter. i was very please with the installation. no problems what so ever. I bin playing with the medium just under a week now and love the hit / feed back. Its slightly harder then most mediums. (That's what i like) I also had Rob on the phone and he was very nice and helpful. I place a order and will be adding the Black Kings to my stock.
 
Update, Sorry for the delay but just got the chance to try one, and I wanted My review to come from actual hands on experience.. I also want to give a honest and open review, so, I'm gonna just tell It like It went here


Shipping- Was lightening fast

Installation- I had to take a little extra care sanding the back so that It did not rock on the ferrule face, but did not take much effort to resolve that, so is really a non factor. Trimming and crowning the tip was very smooth and the leather came off in very nice ribbons. The glue also seemed to bond well to the backing.

Playability- First off I want to be fair by mentioning that I cut off a sniper to try this tip, and I also pulled the taper back some on the shaft at the same time. basically there were some differences that I had to adjust to, It's been a while since I've been able to get out and shoot, and so I really have only had one night of play so far on this tip. I installed the soft tip for this test. There was quite a difference in feel from the sniper that I was use to, and sometimes I make adjustments quickly as where most other times it may take a little longer.

When I started out I really just had the usual situation where I needed to get use to the feel. I was having a hard time finding a sweet spot on the cueball that I could use as a reference point to find some of My angles when throwing a shot or what not. this was probably more due to the fact that I was trying to figure out how much I could put on this tip to force shape, and still hold a straight path on the object ball, so I was hitting a little too fast. What I found, and this is not a bad thing, but although I didn't start out with full confidence, It was because this tip will do a lot more with a lot less effort. My speed was all over the place at first, and I really had to slow It down, but then I had nice control and moved the cueball fairly easily. I may have ran a few racks, so not My usual speed, but since I was getting out of line some of the time, and just playing for fun, I opted to go for shots that I might normally not want to risk selling out on, and made a couple of really tuff shots. Shots that I have learned not to even attempt with My sniper because It just is not capable of throwing that much spin on the ball. The type of shots where you have a cut shot that you are straight inline with or even on the opposite side of a and have to hit the rail first, with a bunch of right hand english to slide the cue directly inline with the rail, and into the object ball. Backwards cut and those type of shots. I was telling the guy I was playing at the tonight, that there was a time that I could make those shots as much as 3 diamonds long on the short rail, and that I was pretty consistent at it, but that I rarely even risk them anymore, then I happened to make one on the next shot from 2 diamonds out or a hair over mid rail.

The more I shot with It and slowed My game down the better feel I got for It, in the middle of the session I was hitting fairly well with it considering all of the changes, and then toward the end I started getting tired, but made a nice out on the last rack.


Overall what I found is if the person is disciplined enough then this tip will do a lot for them with minimal effort. It's what many people look for in a tip. It requires a good stroke though, but the consistency seems to be good. I don't believe It would be a good tip for a banger though ( like any tip Is :rolleyes:) I'm just saying that the user's consistency needs to be good as well. You put a good smooth stroke on It, and control Your speeds though, then It's a really nice tip. It has intrigued me, and this was only one night of play, so I'm gonna keep with It and see how much control I can mustard up while using It. My best level of play is keeping It simple and staying in line on every shot, and that requires me to be highly in tune with My equipment to the point that It feels like an extension of My arm. I use to could make almost any shot on the table, but My consistency was up an down on run percentages due to the fact that I was forced into shooting those shots because of a lack of speed control. When I went to a softer tip, kept It simple, and really slowed My game down, My percentages went way up, and part of the compromise was that I had to play safe instead of selling out when My heart would tell me that I could make the shot, and go out. I know most people probably understand this also, it's all part of disciplining your game. That high of a level of consistency is something that regardless of tip, takes plenty time to fully develop for me, although some people make adjustments very quickly, unfortunately not always as much so for me.

Anyhow I seemed to be adjusting well to It, saw My bank angles fairly easily right out of the gate, and the more I used It the more confident I felt with it, as well as was able to stay inline, and put a few decent runs together. It's just different then what I normally use, so one night is hardly enough time to say I'm fully confident with It, or any other tip for that matter. So far I like It though, but more importantly I know many players that I believe this tip would be perfect for.
 
Fast shipping is one thing Robert has down to a science lol. I had the package in no time. Also customer service seems really good, Robert seems to answer any questions you may have pretty quickly.

I installed a medium and must say the installation went smooth. They seem to bond well when glued up and are easily shaped and trimmed. So the installation part seems to be easy enough with these tips.

They play very well for the money, and I can see this tip doing well as long as they keep focused on the pricing and quality of the tip. I would suggest anyone looking for a good layered tip to give Robert a try. As someone else mentioned they do take a little while to adjust to I feel. They hold english really well, and move the cue ball easily. Once I slowed down a little and the more I played with it, the better the feel became. They seem consistent, and I look forward to purchasing some more from Robert to keep in stock.
 
Shipping was quick. Install was easy, they trim like any other quality layered tips. They don't polish up as bright as some of the other layered tips, but still look good.

I like to get a couple weeks on a tip just to see if it mushrooms or hardens up. So far after about an hour of play, I haven't seen any of these signs. I'll update this review after I've had more time to break the tips in and really get a feel for them.

So far, I like everything about these tips.
 
sent you a pm.

does anyone have any hardness ratings on these?
sounded like the hard is comparable to the old moori mediums? and the soft is a little harder than elk masters?

thanks!
 
sent you a pm.

does anyone have any hardness ratings on these?
sounded like the hard is comparable to the old moori mediums? and the soft is a little harder than elk masters?

thanks!


What kind of ferrule you are using may play a role here. I have an old school micarta on my playing shaft and I really like the hard on this one, My other shaft is Melimine and I have a medium on this one, It sounds more firm. These have become my favorite layered tip to date.
 
Shipping was fast. I initially thought I was not going to get the demo tips since Robert posted that those who purchased tips would get first shipments of the tips. I got mine within a week.

I installed a medium and the installation went smooth. It glued pretty well and was easily shaped and trimmed. So the installation part seems to be easy enough with these tips. They play very well for the money. It took me a while to adjust to it as I am used to Kamui Black Mediums. But after about 10 minutes I was pretty happy with the results. They seem to hold english really well. They seem consistent. I look forward to adding these tips to my stock
 
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