"Boston Burglary"
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nfty9er said:
If I was gambling with $17,000 against someone else, I don't think I would want to have to explain to the cops where I got it and what I was doing with it in a pool hall. It is not legal to gamble in a pool hall is it? I've been told that there have been pool halls here in CA that were closed by the cops for gambling before. Most places have signs up saying "No Gambling" and yet people do gamble there. Why do they have those signs posted then? There was a similar incident that occurred in Modesto CA a few years ago and I don't believe the cops were called in on that one either.
My guess, and it is only a guess, is that the story Lil John told is probably accurate. His man was asleep when he went to the b/r. Plus, with that much money there, Lil John probably thought there was no way they were going to do something like that because of the notoriety of the whole thing. I'm sure that the other guy's action has been affected adversely as a result of this. What I can't believe is that the money somehow mysteriously disappeared in front of all the hometown sweaters while they were sitting there and they don't know anything about it.
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hey all,
all i can say is this. this whole situation is nobodys business execpt the 3 involved. we can sit and speculate about who done it but thats all it is speculations. this is pool and gambleing. yeah its a huge blemish for pool but who are we to slander the parties involved in this matter without being there and not seeing for sure what truely happened. this is just one persons respectful opinion of what transpired that dark night for action
later all
b
all i can say is this. this whole situation is nobodys business execpt the 3 involved. we can sit and speculate about who done it but thats all it is speculations. this is pool and gambleing. yeah its a huge blemish for pool but who are we to slander the parties involved in this matter without being there and not seeing for sure what truely happened. this is just one persons respectful opinion of what transpired that dark night for action
later all
b
Roach said:
The written word of both players -- NOT perpetrators -- is on this forum for all to read. Both players, Little John and Tony Ruberto, have posted on this forum. I believe that Little John was actually posting his words and was not an imposter, and I also believe that the post from Tony Roberto was not an imposter.
Here is a recap:
Tony Ruberto invites Liljohn to come to his home turf in Boston to play a game of high stakes. Liljohn accepts Tony's kind offer and travels to Boston with one friend, Lilrob. Tony is on site with his backer and several railbird sweaters.
Tony beats Liljohn for an undisclosed sum. Liljohn still has money in his pockets and decides he wants to take another shot at Tony and asks if he can play him once more, the SECOND set.
The next day, Liljohn and Tony play a second set for another undisclosed sum. This time, Liljohn beats Tony. The two players negotiate to play a THIRD set, this time for 17 dimes each.
Liljohn and Lilrob should have gone to sleep before they played the third set, but they decided to move full speed ahead without the benefit of rest.
The house man at the pool room was deemed as "goofy" by both players. So, instead of giving the house man the post, the players put the post consisting of 34 dimes in an envelope and placed it underneath the pool table that they were playing on.
The THIRD set, Little John and Tony Ruberto battle it out for 8 hours. At one point during the match, Tony Ruberto is on the hill of the ahead set. Liljohn never gives up, and after 8 hours, he gets back to even.
It was at this point when Liljohn got to even that he decides to take a rest room break. Liljohn's friend Lilrob was sleeping on and off in his chair during the THIRD and lengthy 8-hour set due to lack of sleep. When Liljohn returned from the rest room break, he notices that the envelope with the post is not underneath the table. This is when all hell broke loose.
Roach would have the readers of this forum believe that since Liljohn and Tony Ruberto are "pool players" that "it's much more likely that two pool players would make this move and dump their backers."
I respectfully submit that Roach's theory is prejudicial in nature as it pertains to the Boston Burglary when he lumps all pool players as movers and dumpers. He insults not only me by referencing the company I keep, but every pool player who engages in games of high stakes.
In conclusion, the money is gone. It was stolen by an unknown entity. Having had the benefit of speaking to several of the parties before, during, and after the THIRD and final match between Tony Ruberto and Liljohn, I am of the strong opinion that Liljohn and Lilrob were ripped off.
JAM
You have to choose
You think cops don't know gambling goes on in pool halls as well as at every sporting agenda in the country? They might question where you got the money but it is very unclear in the law that playing for pool for money is illegal as some states consider it a game of skill which would make it legal and some consider it a game of luck which would make it illegal. A good lawyer if you could afford him would probably win a case for being a game of skill. The cops are not going to worry about that considering the enormity of the crime although they might ask about drugs but if your clean they will investigate with due diligence. That is their job. Plus how are they going to prove you were gambling? The closings you do or do not know about of pool halls being closed has to be more involved than just people betting on themselves in a pool match. There was probably more going on than you know. No gambling signs are for show and protect the proprietor for any misunderstandings.
Rickw said:
You think cops don't know gambling goes on in pool halls as well as at every sporting agenda in the country? They might question where you got the money but it is very unclear in the law that playing for pool for money is illegal as some states consider it a game of skill which would make it legal and some consider it a game of luck which would make it illegal. A good lawyer if you could afford him would probably win a case for being a game of skill. The cops are not going to worry about that considering the enormity of the crime although they might ask about drugs but if your clean they will investigate with due diligence. That is their job. Plus how are they going to prove you were gambling? The closings you do or do not know about of pool halls being closed has to be more involved than just people betting on themselves in a pool match. There was probably more going on than you know. No gambling signs are for show and protect the proprietor for any misunderstandings.
1on1pooltournys.....a soft spoken fellow but makes a big impression when he speaks.1on1pooltournys said:Of course it will all fade away. Because that's the way they wanted it to go down
I do have to ask the question...has anyone here making comments understand how thick of a bankroll $34,000 is?? If someone in the room took that kind of cash they would be walking with a serious limp and large bulge in their pocket.
Since you asked
First of all the money was in a manilla envelope. It would be very easy for someone with a coat on to slip in under the shirt back with the coat hiding any bulge as insignificant it would be. Shoplifters d this all the time with much bigger items. Second I am glad to know you obviously are not a thief.
watchez said:
First of all the money was in a manilla envelope. It would be very easy for someone with a coat on to slip in under the shirt back with the coat hiding any bulge as insignificant it would be. Shoplifters d this all the time with much bigger items. Second I am glad to know you obviously are not a thief.
LOL, someone swears and someone else sees it as a good oportunity to take a JAB at MIKE and his FACSIST NAZI fist he runs this board with. (j/k Mike) Mwahaha.. lol there's always someone waiting in the shadows to poke someone else.
So I'll take this OPPORTUNITY and say JJINFLA is a PUSSY.
So I'll take this OPPORTUNITY and say JJINFLA is a PUSSY.
jjinfla said:
well in that case............fuck you too
VAP
Well, my thoughts on the subject is...uh...uh...man I must be one great pool player because I'm too dumb to remember what I think...
HEY!!!!! That's my line!fxskater said:
LMAO!
He's just upset because you called someone else an asshole.vapoolplayer said:well in that case............fuck you too
VAP
vapoolplayer said:well in that case............fuck you too
VAP
See, I won't lower myself to the level of unintelligencia by showing my lack of vocabulary and cuss on this board.
I'll just quote you guys.
You must be great pool players.
Besides, cussing sounds like hell and doesn't do a damn bit of good.
Yep, it takes a real man to cuss.
What sorry lives you people must live. Spending all your time on a computer telling people how great you are. Probably can't even afford a good CR let alone a nice car or home.
LOL
Rag on, no one listens anyway.
Jake
jjinfla said:
you're right no one listens........oh wait.......you responded......so obviously i have your attention.
and just FYI i own a nice car and live in a nice home, thanks for caring.
FUCK YOU.......again.
thank
VAP
willz21
Banned
Ha Ha Ha Ha 'Gremlin' WAS RIGHT!
Well, well now the 'Gremlin' sure was right about you people. The term I think
was, 'underworld chracters, you sure fit the bill. Foul mouth scum is the way I would desrcibe you. Picking on the old duffer? You should be ashamed of your actions? But you are a direct reflection of the game of pool and the owner of the billiard forum. Who in their right mind would entertain the idea of playing the game of pool with people like you?
As for the missing $34,000 just who was involved? The suspect payers, the backers, the poolroom owner and staff, the poolroom patrons (bums, dope heads, convicted felons) somone who brags about breaking someone's arm? Pool culture at it's very best! I don't intend to associate with any of you in this forum or in private ever. It's not your money so what is to you? I would
never back any players again unless my money was returned and the players
proved they had nothing to do with the crime.
willz21
Well, well now the 'Gremlin' sure was right about you people. The term I think
was, 'underworld chracters, you sure fit the bill. Foul mouth scum is the way I would desrcibe you. Picking on the old duffer? You should be ashamed of your actions? But you are a direct reflection of the game of pool and the owner of the billiard forum. Who in their right mind would entertain the idea of playing the game of pool with people like you?
As for the missing $34,000 just who was involved? The suspect payers, the backers, the poolroom owner and staff, the poolroom patrons (bums, dope heads, convicted felons) somone who brags about breaking someone's arm? Pool culture at it's very best! I don't intend to associate with any of you in this forum or in private ever. It's not your money so what is to you? I would
never back any players again unless my money was returned and the players
proved they had nothing to do with the crime.
willz21
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