Brunswick Centennial Cloth

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I post this inquiry on the "Talk To A Mechanic" forum too, but I thought I'd get a slightly different perspective here so I'm re-posting it.

My table is in need of a recovering. I've always gone with Simonis 860, but the mechanic I'm talking to suggested Brunswick Centennial Cloth (http://www.brunswickbilliards.com/brunswick_collection/centennial_cloth/index.html.
Does anyone have an opinion about this cloth and if so what is that opinion? I always like the idea of saving a buck, but I want the play I'm used to on 860.
 
Well, it's going to be made by Simonis anyway.

Brunswick Centennial balls are made by Saluc (Aramith), the Saluc & Simonis factories are next door to each other in Belgium. The two companies have a very strong relationship as you can imagine and also share marketing strategies.

So with this in mind, I would say that the Brunswick Centennial range of "additional products" - ie anything that isn't a table, will be 3rd party produced. It makes sense to me for Brunswick to use their existing partnership with Simonis to commission a "re-badged" cloth. BUT thats not to say what quality and play this cloth will have.

Just because its a Simonis cloth doesn't mean its directly comparable to the 860 series.

Whats the difference in price you are seeing over there between the two just out of interest ?

Ste.
 
You may want to investigate Milliken's Super Pro cloth as an alternative. It was used in some pro events last year and has gotten really great reviews from installers and room owners that have started using it.
 
Ste said:
Well, it's going to be made by Simonis anyway.

Brunswick Centennial balls are made by Saluc (Aramith), the Saluc & Simonis factories are next door to each other in Belgium. The two companies have a very strong relationship as you can imagine and also share marketing strategies.

So with this in mind, I would say that the Brunswick Centennial range of "additional products" - ie anything that isn't a table, will be 3rd party produced. It makes sense to me for Brunswick to use their existing partnership with Simonis to commission a "re-badged" cloth. BUT thats not to say what quality and play this cloth will have.

Just because its a Simonis cloth doesn't mean its directly comparable to the 860 series.

Whats the difference in price you are seeing over there between the two just out of interest ?

Ste.
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I have asked the difference yet. He just shot me a quick email recommending it. I thought I'd get some opinions before I called him on the phone.
 
Reading the specs, the centennial cloth appears to be similar to the 860hr felt.....

I put the hr one my "tight" table in my room, and the guys seem to like it, and it holds up better than regular 860 did. It was claimed to be faster than 860, but i don't see it. I think it's a hair slower. My other complaint was, that the piece was barely big enought for the table. It was about 2" narrower that regular 860 is.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
Reading the specs, the centennial cloth appears to be similar to the 860hr felt.....

I put the hr one my "tight" table in my room, and the guys seem to like it, and it holds up better than regular 860 did. It was claimed to be faster than 860, but i don't see it. I think it's a hair slower. My other complaint was, that the piece was barely big enought for the table. It was about 2" narrower that regular 860 is.
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It comes in the same width as regular 860, 66" or 78" wide, it just has less stretch than the normal 860 does;) and it doesn't play faster than regular 860, although it isn't as slipery as regular 860 is when it's first installed.

Glen
 
realkingcobra said:
it comes in the same width as regular 860, 66" or 78" wide, it just has less stretch than the normal 860 does;) and it doesn't play faster than regular 860, although it isn't as slipery as regular 860 is when it's first installed.

Glen
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glen,
i had ordered a 78" wide piece, it came in at 75". Not sure why, but it was narrower. I didn't notice it until i had ripped my 3 6" sections off for the rails, and i laid the rest on the slate. It barely made it over the slate to the tack strip. So i laid it back on the ground with all the pieces aside of each other and measured it at 75". I just figured that they were saving money by making it narrower.

It took some effort, but i got it on.
 
the centennial cloth has some teflon or something in it to repel stains. but it plays super and just like the 860. it also cleans up real well and you can use a damp cloth without worrying, at least i do.
 
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the centennial cloth has some teflon or something in it to repel stains. but it plays super and just like the 860. it also cleans up real well and you can use a damp cloth without worrying, at least i do.
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Ditto this post. I've had the Centennial cloth on my table for 3 years now. It was FAST when first installed, and it's FAST now, three years later. You hear a lot of begging (for the cue ball to stop rolling) around my table. It does clean up well. It has no nap to it, it is basically "slicker than owl shit".

Maniac
 
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