Brunswick GC VI?

I just don't understand how Brunswick just left the pool game. Now they seem to be trying to get even further away. They are far more concerned with how the table looks then how it is going to play. Now I love the looks of a Gold Crown but they need to play well also. I still enjoy a Gold Crown that has been set up well (at least by my standards) than a Diamond.
 
Change is good...I think they should come out with some kind of modern or retro type style pool table. Diamonds are pretty plain jane looking
 
Its IUPUI so it's not quite the real deal, but still is there anything those IU students can't do? If Brunswick keeps reaching out to IU students for their projects you guys better buy some stock. Also if they make a table with the IU trident incorporated in it I will have to knock down a wall in my house to fit it in here.
 
I think the 'V' is the best looking of the series. No friggin way I could pay 10 grand for one though. Not even on credit! Wow. That would be a poke in the heiney for sure.
 
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It goes even further than that.

I asked a Brunswick dealer about the "bro" pricing on a "tournament spec" 9 foot GC-IV,and just the table by itself,without a ball set or house cues,the cost of delivery,cloth,etc is almost 4k more than what a new Diamond Pro WITH the matching light,chairs,and accessories costs and that's DELIVERED.

Personally I love em both,but I personally prefer the SOUND of a ball being hit with authority on the old GC over the Diamond.

I'd take even a Pro-Am Diamond over anything within an hour drive of me though ;).

I gotta be honest though,that knock off black/white GC-IV copy they used in this year's World 9 Ball is pimpin'. I saw a gleaming white with brass parts GC-IV somewhere too that would be like my money-is-no-object table for sure too.

The way Diamond has advanced in design and quality though,I can't see Brunswick reclaiming it's former spot in the industry at this point.

The only thing for them to do is try to use modern technology,and combine it with old-school pride in the build quality like they had back in the day,or reverse-engineer and make the GC-VI look like the old,original Diamonds,which looked like an all-wood GC,LOL. Tommy D.
 
Seen the vid.

I just wanted to add this:
When I bought my black-label Brunswick table 4 years ago I said to the dealer: " I want it built with parts I specify." He said , "no problem! I am constantly in direct contact with reps at Brunswick." I called Bull***t , and told him I wanted K-66 profile rails , 1 1/2 " slate and a few other things. He called me a week later; told me he & Brunswick can do it, and quoted me a price. My table is an 8ft and weighs just under 800 lbs. !

Brunswick will build to order!

ok, that said, I like the 2nd version. Could use some refinement. The 3rd would be nice if they cut out a triangle in the center of each side to give it that Bridge-truss look. That might be cool to see as a new design.

I'm very surprised they didn't consult Mark or RKC for functionality.
 
Dunnn51 said:
I'm very surprised they didn't consult Mark or RKC for functionality.
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They are design students.

To them, anyone over 30 years old is an idiot because their brain has atrophied. Plus, Mark and RKC aren't cool "designers"...What could they possibly know?

“When I was a boy of 14, my father was so ignorant I could hardly stand to have the old man around. But when I got to be 21, I was astonished at how much the old man had learned in seven years.” --- Mark Twain
 
Petros Andrikop said:
The second one looks "ok"...
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I agree with that....looking at just a pic is not seeing the table together and getting the true beauty of it.
I don't think for a minute any of those students are idiots......I'm more than sure they're all much smarter than me.
But.....I do believe to design a table is one thing.....to design a table that looks great and plays great is another.
I maybe wrong again but......I think you should know how to play the game at least a little to design a table.
My changes on the GC 5 over the GC 4....,was really easy....cause I worked on so many 4s...and knew all the problems with that table.
Plus...that was the first time Brunswick offered a 4-1/2 corners on the tournament 5 table.
It don't matter what guys like me think....Brunswick makes tons of money. I just hope they don't take the play of the GC table away from how it plays.
Hell....they may come out with a fantastic looking table.....better then all the GC tables.
Let's just see what happens....and I'm hoping for the best.
Mark Gregory
 

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They brought the cloth all the way back to the diamonds? Maybe that will change before production (if this one goes to production)..
 
luckylager said:
Design #2 won the competition according to the school's press release.

http://news.iupui.edu/releases/2014/08/colin-tury-wins.shtml
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I like the looks of the table....I'm sure it's even going to look better when it done.....sounds like a good idea to bring the diamonds closer.....that's different.
I'm sure it will play great.
Wonder if they're going to still offer the 4-1/2 corners....or just standard pockets.

Now I'm going to have to get one...and sale my 5.... Lol
Mark Gregory
 
Petros Andrikop said:
I really doubt they will bring the diamonds closer to the cushion, that would affect diamond play....
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Correct. The WPA equipment spec for the sights is as follows:

"The center of each sight should be located 3 11/16 (+ ) inches [93.6625 mm (+ 3.175 mm)] from the nose of the cushion. The sights may be round (between 7/16 [11.11 mm] and ½ inch [12.7 mm] in diameter) or diamond-shaped (between 1 x 7/16 [25.4 x 11.11 mm] and 1 ¼ x 5/8 inch [31.75 x 15.875 mm])."

[I think there are a couple typos or conversion errors in that. I'm guessing they mean ±1/8 inside the first parentheses and ±3.175 inside the second parentheses, because 1/8" is 3.175mm.]

In any event, the location of the sights relative to the nose of the cushion is rather closely specified.
 
perfectpocketz said:
I agree with that....looking at just a pic is not seeing the table together and getting the true beauty of it.
I don't think for a minute any of those students are idiots......I'm more than sure they're all much smarter than me.
But.....I do believe to design a table is one thing.....to design a table that looks great and plays great is another.
I maybe wrong again but......I think you should know how to play the game at least a little to design a table.
My changes on the GC 5 over the GC 4....,was really easy....cause I worked on so many 4s...and knew all the problems with that table.
Plus...that was the first time Brunswick offered a 4-1/2 corners on the tournament 5 table.
It don't matter what guys like me think....Brunswick makes tons of money. I just hope they don't take the play of the GC table away from how it plays.
Hell....they may come out with a fantastic looking table.....better then all the GC tables.
Let's just see what happens....and I'm hoping for the best.
Mark Gregory
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I was thinking the same thing, in order to design a great playing table, you'd need to be familiar with the game.

I really liked the design of the GC5, only item, I'd change is moving to flat rails similar to the Diamond. The flat rails are so much easier to bridge from.
 
perfectpocketz said:
I like the looks of the table....I'm sure it's even going to look better when it done.....sounds like a good idea to bring the diamonds closer.....that's different.
I'm sure it will play great.
Wonder if they're going to still offer the 4-1/2 corners....or just standard pockets.

Now I'm going to have to get one...and sale my 5.... Lol
Mark Gregory
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I hope you get to design the rail construction/specs part of the table, Mark.
And the frame too.
 
Petros Andrikop said:
I really doubt they will bring the diamonds closer to the cushion, that would affect diamond play....
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As noted above, they seem to have left the diamonds in place and brought the cushion cloth back to the diamonds. It reminds me of a home-made carom table that had eight diamonds along the long rail. It may have been the only table in the world with that diamond spacing.
 
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