Buddy Hall Question
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I staked Tang Hoa in the Open that year and he made it to the final against Buddy. Tang had already lost to Buddy 11-9 in the hot seat match so Buddy was cautious heading into the finals. Tang beat Rempe (I believe) to get back into the finals. Buddy offered us a 4K saver so the winner would get 21K and the loser 16.5. We accepted the deal (I knew Tang was pretty much played out) and Buddy easily won the finals. We got the 16.5 plus half of second money in the Calcutta (another 4K) so not a bad day overall. Barry tried to give Tang a post dated check for 10K but I put a stop to that. We left his office with all cash! My best score with Tang and we had some good ones over the years. Tang was and is a great friend. I helped him when he needed backing and he probably won us over 100K over a four year period (Camel Tour and gambling). Good money in the 1990's.
I have found that if you search for video of any top player you will see see them miss shot's you could make, have bad day's and loose plenty of games and matches. That's the reality of even the best among us.
I have found that if you search for video of any top player you will see see them miss shot's you could make, have bad day's and loose plenty of games and matches. That's the reality of even the best among us. Years ago when I was searching through the old videos I was surprised at just how human all of the great players can be.
Umm, no.
That 98 tournament was the one that sold me on Buddy Hall, I watched every match he had, I am pretty sure.
Every one of them was a clinic , it just seemed like he was, like mensa said " at least the 8 ball better than everybody, and there were some amazing players there.
When Tang Ho was getting ready to play him in the finals , he said something to the effect that he was going to get a great lesson, from one of, if not the the best ever . He played pretty well actually, considering Buddy was playing so well. But it was no where near good enough,
Flashback BCollector thx.... deck of cards.
Janscos/Johnston City IL.
Late 60's....
There was a back door off the two table pit from the spectator room, next to the Show Bar and close to the front door.
That was the place where the big matches were played, and filmed by ABC WW of Sports.
The Jansco brothers installed a false, interior back wall, guessing 8' in width, and within that back wall cavity was, about 12-14 Gin Tables.
They were always going, and the house got a cut. One would think
.In the out back Back bldg they had I think six tables, but the talk was the Poker game above the garage.
When your 19 this was neat.
Tho I didn't enjoy the Trea$ury Dept. Raid
Better idea there never was, my friend!! Kudos.This is a proper historical thread if there ever was one.
I hope Mike will get on board with my idea.
Copy these threads in a read only area. The “The Pool Chronicles”
Leave the threads open for us to fight and argue in current times. But have them in a read only area without all the current bullshit-like my post right here.
We can mine out the good threads and make them known to Mike so he can preserve them. Would be nice to go read historical stuff without all the white noise from today’s world.
If I’m wrong tell me!
Best
Fatboy <———missed history class, trying to make up for it here
Got my vote!!
I'd hate to think in 50 - 100 years or so, kids will ask about details and hear only crickets and see tumbleweeds.
Jay, I was sitting in the first row during that hot seat match, and got a perfect view of the shot that could've cost Buddy the match if he hadn't kept his cool. I think it was 9-9 and Tang played a safe that left the cue just a hair away from the rail, and the 6 ball frozen on the opposite rail on the other side of the table.
But the fact is that Tang's safe shot never reached the rail! The ref didn't call it, Buddy might not have even seen it himself, and only the few of us who were sitting down the long rail knew that Buddy should've had ball in hand. Of course we couldn't say anything to anyone but ourselves, which for me was painful as I was majorly rooting for Buddy.
But Buddy kept his cool, jacked up and drilled an incredible bank on the 6 ball into the far corner, and from there ran out the match. One of my biggest regrets was that the Accu-Stats crew was on a dinner break, and so that back and forth match was lost to posterity. As you imply, the final was almost an anticlimax, as Buddy won going away.
BTW after the final was over, I asked Buddy for his nose bandage, which I took home to my wife as a souvenir of the week. Yes, I'm weird!
Flashback BCollector thx.... deck of cards.
Janscos/Johnston City IL.
Late 60's....
There was a back door off the two table pit from the spectator room, next to the Show Bar and close to the front door.
That was the place where the big matches were played, and filmed by ABC WW of Sports.
The Jansco brothers installed a false, interior back wall, guessing 8' in width, and within that back wall cavity was, about 12-14 Gin Tables.
They were always going, and the house got a cut. One would think
In the out back Back bldg they had I think six tables, but the talk was the Poker game above the garage.
When your 19 this was neat.
Tho I didn't enjoy the Trea$ury Dept. Raid
Talk about 'Entourage!!'
I had the pleasure of watching Louie bang his head against the wall known as Buddy. Lol.Jay, I was sitting in the first row during that hot seat match, and got a perfect view of the shot that could've cost Buddy the match if he hadn't kept his cool. I think it was 9-9 and Tang played a safe that left the cue just a hair away from the rail, and the 6 ball frozen on the opposite rail on the other side of the table.
But the fact is that Tang's safe shot never reached the rail! The ref didn't call it, Buddy might not have even seen it himself, and only the few of us who were sitting down the long rail knew that Buddy should've had ball in hand. Of course we couldn't say anything to anyone but ourselves, which for me was painful as I was majorly rooting for Buddy.
But Buddy kept his cool, jacked up and drilled an incredible bank on the 6 ball into the far corner, and from there ran out the match. One of my biggest regrets was that the Accu-Stats crew was on a dinner break, and so that back and forth match was lost to posterity. As you imply, the final was almost an anticlimax, as Buddy won going away.
BTW after the final was over, I asked Buddy for his nose bandage, which I took home to my wife as a souvenir of the week. Yes, I'm weird!
Buddy had his # and Louie couldn't get enuf. God love em both!! Those were matches for the ages!!!
he was a small step above all the rest of the top players at his prime. and in a race or a days gambling those small edges amount up to almost sure winners. few understand how that happens and look at isolated incidents and try to draw conclusions from them. which you cannot.
There's a great Hall-Sigel match from the 1989 Memphis 9-Ball Open that Accu-Stats has on a DVD, but I don't think they've yet released it on their YouTube page. Buddy was nearly flawless and won going away, getting back at Mike for a match from the previous round where Mike had come back from way behind. I had a copy of the DVD but now I can't find it anywhere.
I didn't see that shot since I was a distance away. Tang played good is all I remember and Buddy was ready to make a saver before the Finals. I was hoping for $2,500 but Buddy offered 4,000 instead. We quickly accepted.Jay, I was sitting in the first row during that hot seat match, and got a perfect view of the shot that could've cost Buddy the match if he hadn't kept his cool. I think it was 9-9 and Tang played a safe that left the cue just a hair away from the rail, and the 6 ball frozen on the opposite rail on the other side of the table.
But the fact is that Tang's safe shot never reached the rail! The ref didn't call it, Buddy might not have even seen it himself, and only the few of us who were sitting down the long rail knew that Buddy should've had ball in hand. Of course we couldn't say anything to anyone but ourselves, which for me was painful as I was majorly rooting for Buddy.
But Buddy kept his cool, jacked up and drilled an incredible bank on the 6 ball into the far corner, and from there ran out the match. One of my biggest regrets was that the Accu-Stats crew was on a dinner break, and so that back and forth match was lost to posterity. As you imply, the final was almost an anticlimax, as Buddy won going away.
BTW after the final was over, I asked Buddy for his nose bandage, which I took home to my wife as a souvenir of the week. Yes, I'm weird!
The fact someone can play perfect pool basically forever does not come through in a race to 11, agreed.
Andy Oquin played pool around the Midwest wherever the horses were running. He avoided name players and stayed under the radar. Never knew he played Buddy. Must have been when Buddy was a young'un. Little Toby Sweet also beat Buddy back then, even giving him the eight.
John Henry was a black bar table champion. He was another guy who stayed off everyone's radar. You'd never see him in a big poolroom or playing in a bar table tournament.
I saw every champion miss a hanger, some you wouldn't have believed.