Ron Swanson
Banned
Only if it isn't true. Keith should address this himself now he's back posting again.
C.J. Wiley VS Keith McCready - What's The Line?
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Only if it isn't true. Keith should address this himself now he's back posting again.
I know I can't play, and my liver is already solid granite...but which Danny are you talking about ?
(I shudder to think, we may have a mutual acquaintance )
lol......:grin::grin:
If we're talking about Danny DiLiberto:
• One Pocket Hall of Fame, Elected 2004
• BCA Hall of Fame, Inducted 2011
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I created this thread in the hopes of seeing two of the GREATEST money players EVER to match up for old times sake, playing old-time rules. It seems to have gotten personal between some on here, but that was not the intent of my thread.
Everybody talks about what is bad in pool and what WON'T work to revive it, but they keep playing the same game, using the same formats, with the same players and they wonder why nothing ever changes. I propose changing things up. Pool needs PERSONALITIES, not just more pool players playing the same stuff that NEVER gets media attention.
You could have 100 SVBs and Ralf Soquets playing in one pool hall and Keith playing Minnesota Fats in another across the street and I'd GUARANTEE that 99% of the watchers wouldn't be in the one with SVB and Ralf. They'd be knocking the doors down to see the one across the street.
Lots of people on here also worry too much about player apparel and BS like that. In order to appeal to the masses, you have to have something in common with the masses, or you have to have something so totally the OPPOSITE that you cause people to point and stimulate interest. Maybe CJ should wear that pink cowboy hat that PinkLady posted. Not only would it show his feminine side, it would keep the light out of his eyes and he could use it to stash his money in.
Aloha.
Everybody talks about what is bad in pool and what WON'T work to revive it, but they keep playing the same game, using the same formats, with the same players and they wonder why nothing ever changes. I propose changing things up. Pool needs PERSONALITIES, not just more pool players playing the same stuff that NEVER gets media attention.
You could have 100 SVBs and Ralf Soquets playing in one pool hall and Keith playing Minnesota Fats in another across the street and I'd GUARANTEE that 99% of the watchers wouldn't be in the one with SVB and Ralf. They'd be knocking the doors down to see the one across the street.
Lots of people on here also worry too much about player apparel and BS like that. In order to appeal to the masses, you have to have something in common with the masses, or you have to have something so totally the OPPOSITE that you cause people to point and stimulate interest. Maybe CJ should wear that pink cowboy hat that PinkLady posted. Not only would it show his feminine side, it would keep the light out of his eyes and he could use it to stash his money in.
Aloha.
I don't believe Danny D. would admit to even 'knowing' Chris (Renfro) !
..Its probably some close buddy of Chris',named "Danny, the Dumpster Diver"...:grin:
Pool needs, pure, unadulterated shot-making (combined with a safety element).
Pink Lady wins the "Best Hat in the West" contest, that's coming straight out of TEXAS (after all we invented the cowboy hat, or was that "the outlaw Josey Wales" in MO).......I know PINK looks great on you, but couldn't see Clint Eastwood sporting it in a "Spaghetti Western".
You're right, the game must change to be successful again. Players that grew up playing "one foul" have been robbed of experiencing the deeper essence of the game. Keith McCready knows what I'm talking about, he's a monster at "coming off the end rail"......and that's what it takes, pure, unadulterated shot-making (combined with a safety element).....the important thing is to NOT be able to win on a safety, you must win on a great shot or your opponent unsuccessfully attempting one.
The pool game is like a fire, dying in the fireplace. At first glance you'd think it needs to be re-kindled, on closer examination we see it just needed to be stirred up. This "stirring" requires rule changes and a focus on the true assets of the game (for entertainment) while eliminating the liabilities.
We look forward to introducing the world to this type of pool game. It's not "better" than the other games, it's simply designed differently, to re-establish the strategic elements that make pool the "Master Game". A book could be written on this particular subject, I'll elaborate on the specific differences as the time draws closer.
Happy Holidays.....
'The Game is the Teacher'
Pink Lady wins the "Best Hat in the West" contest, that's coming straight out of TEXAS (after all we invented the cowboy hat, or was that "the outlaw Josey Wales" in MO).......I know PINK looks great on you, but couldn't see Clint Eastwood sporting it in a "Spaghetti Western".
You're right, the game must change to be successful again. Players that grew up playing "one foul" have been robbed of experiencing the deeper essence of the game. Keith McCready knows what I'm talking about, he's a monster at "coming off the end rail"......and that's what it takes, pure, unadulterated shot-making (combined with a safety element).....the important thing is to NOT be able to win on a safety, you must win on a great shot or your opponent unsuccessfully attempting one.
The pool game is like a fire, dying in the fireplace. At first glance you'd think it needs to be re-kindled, on closer examination we see it just needed to be stirred up. This "stirring" requires rule changes and a focus on the true assets of the game (for entertainment) while eliminating the liabilities.
We look forward to introducing the world to this type of pool game. It's not "better" than the other games, it's simply designed differently, to re-establish the strategic elements that make pool the "Master Game". A book could be written on this particular subject, I'll elaborate on the specific differences as the time draws closer.
Happy Holidays.....
'The Game is the Teacher'
That is EXACTLY what I miss and what made the games exciting to watch. In the "old days" players would shoot a ball at Mach 3 and then send the cue ball 3 or 4 rails to break out a cluster to continue the run. If they missed position and got hooked, they could "push out" to a shot that required the incoming player to shoot or give back. In TODAY'S pool, you couldn't get a player to shoot that EXCITING shot with a gun to his head. They would "plink, plink" the balls that were 99% unmissable and then play "hide" because the shot had a higher percentage of error than they were willing to take.
In poker terms, it was a game with a lot of "all ins"...that is what made for excitement.
Aloha.
Please tell me it's not going to be called Bonus Balls.
Old Nine Baller
Banned
It's not often that you make a point AND it's correct. Good job. There's not much worse than the 3-foul rule in 9 ball. It encourages safety play over ball running.
How do you find the time to coordinate all of the projects? You are amazing. By the way, I didn't see your 2014 projects come to fruition yet. I guess you forgot them, eh?
CJ Wiley said:
CJ Wiley said:
Maybe 2015 will be the break away year, you think? Or maybe 2016? Or maybe never.
ONB
rules committees that guarantee the integrity of their game will not be jeopardised
Yes, you obviously are a seasoned player and have the luxury of seeing that game played at it's finest. Comparing the "Two Foul Rule" to the "One Foul Rule" is like talking "Ferraris," to Fiats. :groucho:
You are one of the few that recognize how significantly rule changes can alter a game....and even ruin it.
The players aren't at fault, they could rise to the top playing a variety of rules.....champion level players would rather have a test to showcase their more advanced talents.....not simply break, make the corner ball/one ball and run out simple patterns, or have to "kick" / "duck" when there's a chance to clear the table.
We will never see "jump cues" in snooker or "ball in hand" in golf......they have rules committees that guarantee the integrity of their game will not be jeopardised.
How many times do you hear how well a player "comes off the end rail"?
Playing "one foul," you're right, it's usually better to try to "duck/play safe" than break balls out.....and this shot is one of the best the game has to offer.....and it was eliminated, along with many of the other "best shots" of the game.
"Bonus Ball" was a new game, however it didn't capture all the qualities we mentioned in a comprehensible way......it was complicated and differed too much from the other pool games. We intend on restoring the integrity of the game, not re-invent it.
'The Game is our Teacher'
Yes, you obviously are a seasoned player and have the luxury of seeing that game played at it's finest. Comparing the "Two Foul Rule" to the "One Foul Rule" is like talking "Ferraris," to Fiats. :groucho:
You are one of the few that recognize how significantly rule changes can alter a game....and even ruin it.
The players aren't at fault, they could rise to the top playing a variety of rules.....champion level players would rather have a test to showcase their more advanced talents.....not simply break, make the corner ball/one ball and run out simple patterns, or have to "kick" / "duck" when there's a chance to clear the table.
We will never see "jump cues" in snooker or "ball in hand" in golf......they have rules committees that guarantee the integrity of their game will not be jeopardised.
How many times do you hear how well a player "comes off the end rail"?
Playing "one foul," you're right, it's usually better to try to "duck/play safe" than break balls out.....and this shot is one of the best the game has to offer.....and it was eliminated, along with many of the other "best shots" of the game.
"Bonus Ball" was a new game, however it didn't capture all the qualities we mentioned in a comprehensible way......it was complicated and differed too much from the other pool games. We intend on restoring the integrity of the game, not re-invent it.
'The Game is our Teacher'
Banks
Banned
I'd offer a small wager, but first I'd have to find somebody that disagrees.
He's been on the cutting edge of talking for a long time now.
a particular industry, branding it in a particular, cross-linguistic way.
Names are vitally important, especially to potential sponsors ....we matched our name to a particular industry, branding it in a particular, cross-linguistic way.
Names are vitally important, especially to potential sponsors ....we matched our name to a particular industry, branding it in a particular, cross-linguistic way.
Today's 9- and 10-ball reminds me of the way they played one-pocket many years ago when I worked in the pool hall as a kid. It was too safety oriented and not enough "excitement". It was make a ball, play safes for 30 minutes, make another ball, and keep it up until you die of old age or finish the game...whichever came first.
The people like Ronnie Allen who changed the strategy paved the way for newer players like Scott Frost to bring more excitement to the game. Scott plays aggressive and goes for the "Hail Marys" throughout the game...he doesn't wait until the end of the game when it is done as a last resort.
That is why I quit watching football teams with only "one" style of play (i.e, the wishbone offense). I got tired of seeing "run 3 yards, fall on the ball"...do this three times and then we only need one yard to get a first down and then continue this strategy for the entire game.
That was the equivalent of the old style of playing one pocket. NOBODY watched it and the only people interested was the players and the backers.
The people like Ronnie Allen who changed the strategy paved the way for newer players like Scott Frost to bring more excitement to the game. Scott plays aggressive and goes for the "Hail Marys" throughout the game...he doesn't wait until the end of the game when it is done as a last resort.
That is why I quit watching football teams with only "one" style of play (i.e, the wishbone offense). I got tired of seeing "run 3 yards, fall on the ball"...do this three times and then we only need one yard to get a first down and then continue this strategy for the entire game.
That was the equivalent of the old style of playing one pocket. NOBODY watched it and the only people interested was the players and the backers.
Ron Swanson
Banned
Lol. Blimey that's TWO laughs from banks today.
We don't know who the Danny is that Renfro was referring to. I kinda doubt Danny D would say that about another HOF player, but I've been wrong before...
Lou Figueroa
it's not enough....it's never enough to satisfy this demanding game.
You're right, compared to yourself and "others," I've been a low achiever this year.
I apologize, since being active on this forum I've only made the 'Touch of Inside' video, 'Billiards Inside Secrets', 'TIP Banking Secrets' - also YouTube videos of 'Running 29 Balls in One Pocket' 'Beating the Ghost Playing Rotation, etc (click here to see any of these free videos) - this year I"ve made several other videos further explaining my systems and techniques but it's not enough....it's never enough to satisfy this demanding game.
Another part of the "research and development" (in 2014) was participating in over 100 tournaments this year.....this proved to be an essential part of our game's epiphany.
Maybe taking time to be the Captain of the Mosconi Cup was what slowed me down. After all we lost by one match on the final day.....that would discourage many from trudging forward (Mike D and Brandon S. hasn't played in the MC since).....hopefully in 2015 they will attempt another appearance.
We have now created a pool game that showcases the best qualities (strategic battling/sparring and high-level shotmaking) of the game and look forward to selected players experiencing the differences, it will give commenters some interesting things to discuss and talk about.. 'The Game is the Teacher'
You're right, compared to yourself and "others," I've been a low achiever this year.
I apologize, since being active on this forum I've only made the 'Touch of Inside' video, 'Billiards Inside Secrets', 'TIP Banking Secrets' - also YouTube videos of 'Running 29 Balls in One Pocket' 'Beating the Ghost Playing Rotation, etc (click here to see any of these free videos) - this year I"ve made several other videos further explaining my systems and techniques but it's not enough....it's never enough to satisfy this demanding game.
Another part of the "research and development" (in 2014) was participating in over 100 tournaments this year.....this proved to be an essential part of our game's epiphany.
Maybe taking time to be the Captain of the Mosconi Cup was what slowed me down. After all we lost by one match on the final day.....that would discourage many from trudging forward (Mike D and Brandon S. hasn't played in the MC since).....hopefully in 2015 they will attempt another appearance.
We have now created a pool game that showcases the best qualities (strategic battling/sparring and high-level shotmaking) of the game and look forward to selected players experiencing the differences, it will give commenters some interesting things to discuss and talk about.. 'The Game is the Teacher'
I'd offer a small wager, but first I'd have to find somebody that disagrees.
He's been on the cutting edge of talking for a long time now.
t you'll only see these shots consistently playing "Two Foul Rules"
The key to playing "one foul" is to break/rack well, and play safe in unsure situations. It's really about not making any mistakes, rather than aggressively taking the victory in a plethora of tough end rail shots, banks, cuts, and "2 Way Shots".
Pool has several great qualities, and the "2 Way Shot" is by far the most entertaining. Playing "one foul" rules - you may see these occasionally, (playing one foul) - these shots and situations come up consistently playing "Two Foul Rules".... the reasons & rules are simple and easy to learn.
The key to playing "one foul" is to break/rack well, and play safe in unsure situations. It's really about not making any mistakes, rather than aggressively taking the victory in a plethora of tough end rail shots, banks, cuts, and "2 Way Shots".
Pool has several great qualities, and the "2 Way Shot" is by far the most entertaining. Playing "one foul" rules - you may see these occasionally, (playing one foul) - these shots and situations come up consistently playing "Two Foul Rules".... the reasons & rules are simple and easy to learn.