Old Nine Baller
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Everyone knows the clock is ticking but some are living in the past and refuse to admit it.
ONB
C.J. Wiley VS Keith McCready - What's The Line?
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Everyone knows the clock is ticking but some are living in the past and refuse to admit it.
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Pool is the "master game," once it's properly tuned up.
We have created a game that packages the best aspects of pool games, and eliminates the ones that are detrimental. This was no easy task and took several years and countless hours of research and development. Look for it's release in early 2015 - the appeal is not only in the game it's been tailor made to attract a specific type of sponsor.
For Pro Pool to be successful it must be an "advertising vehicle," just like NASCAR, UFC, Texas Holdem, however, the game must have similar strategic elements that it currently does not possess. Pool is the "master game," once it's properly tuned up.
We have created a game that packages the best aspects of pool games, and eliminates the ones that are detrimental. This was no easy task and took several years and countless hours of research and development. Look for it's release in early 2015 - the appeal is not only in the game it's been tailor made to attract a specific type of sponsor.
For Pro Pool to be successful it must be an "advertising vehicle," just like NASCAR, UFC, Texas Holdem, however, the game must have similar strategic elements that it currently does not possess. Pool is the "master game," once it's properly tuned up.
I couldn't agree with you more CJ! There are only a few true fans of the sport. The rest think it's boring to watch! I want to watch something exciting, not the same old players running balls 1-10 in order! I want to see both players at the table each game.
Don't get me wrong, I love watching a 4-pack put together, but that's not exciting to the average spectator! They want to see drama, excitement, and the tides shift unexpectedly!
I love Efren, SVB, and JA as much as the next person, but to get more fans into this great sort of ours, we need the likes of Earl and Keith to make the sport appealing! Right now, it's absolutely boring
I've spent many hrs watching so many pro matches, I feel like I can say I've probably seen 80% of them all(not kidding)! There are very few matches that I truly enjoyed for the character, Keith and Earl! Especially Earl at the mosconi! Earl made the mosconi as far as I'm concerned, he brought pool what it needs today, pure drama!!! This gets people to watch! I know many will disagree but, Earl did make you want to watch
This sport is too great for the dullards, this is why we need to change it,,, make it exciting! We need characters that have an impact on is that will make us come back for more! SVB, one of the GREATEST players on earth, no doubt! He will attract about 22-25 people! Earl,,,, he can attract millions given the "RIGHT" opportunity!
Pool as is,,,,,way too boring for most! I love the sport and I'm always watching, but I'm in a very small minority as many of you are! Not too many people are going to nuts for (EXAMPLE) SVB playing JA a race to 15 in 10-ball this Sunday at 11am on NBC! But, I cansee people getting ready to watch Keith and Earl go at it! I would definitely change my schedule around to watch that!!!
I'm sorry, but I cannot help myself: nobody here gives enough of a s**t to put up a dime. It's just an interesting prop, something to kibitz about.
If one player, the other, or both think it's a game, get your money/backer/partner(s) together, post and make the bet. Stop begging for the hand out.
Lou Figueroa
jeez
If one player, the other, or both think it's a game, get your money/backer/partner(s) together, post and make the bet. Stop begging for the hand out.
Lou Figueroa
jeez
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a racehorse that's been forced to pull a wagon, when it's true calling is to race
The hand/eye coordination is probably what starts to go first in "older" players. We all wish we could turn back time, and we can't, not even for an instant.
Pool is going to get huge again in the next 3-5 years....quite honestly it hasn't had much of a chance this millennium, like a racehorse that's been forced to pull a wagon, when it's true calling is to race. We really don't have to re-invent anything, it's just a matter of re-arranging the pieces into a solid, money making vehicle.
The hand/eye coordination is probably what starts to go first in "older" players. We all wish we could turn back time, and we can't, not even for an instant.
Pool is going to get huge again in the next 3-5 years....quite honestly it hasn't had much of a chance this millennium, like a racehorse that's been forced to pull a wagon, when it's true calling is to race. We really don't have to re-invent anything, it's just a matter of re-arranging the pieces into a solid, money making vehicle.
I'm sorry, but I cannot help myself, either: nobody here gives enough of a s**t to put up a dime. It's just an interesting prop, something to kibitz about.
If one player, the other, or both think it's a game, get your money/backer/partner(s) together, post and make the bet. Stop begging for the hand out.
Spidey
jeez
CJ, Why would you bother writing a book on the subject ?.. You are engaged in yet another unlikely hypothetical situation...Regarding your evaluation of 2shot foul, vs Texas Express !...I am also a strong supporter, of 2shot foul rules, as being the best way to play 9/10 ball, among pro level player's, and yes, they are a little bit more complex, but, if you think the difference in which set of rules are followed will make ANY difference at all in the interest, or viewership that may be generated... IMO, you are sadly mistaken !
John Q. Public or Joe 6-Pack, (ie; several million league player's) do not care a hill of beans about the rules !..They will not be flocking to watch ANY production regardless, as pool is inherently boring to any novice watching !...All they see when pro's play is... after an occasional safety battle, (if there is one) is perfect position, and all those easy "straight in" shots, to run out...Most new rules are designed to remove the 'luck' factor, which was one of the few unknown, and exciting things to watch... Why do you think people flock to NASCAR, and pro football ???
I think you must know this, so I am in hopes, you will pursue your original thoughts on some type of 'reality' presentation, like your competitors (American Road Productions, or the Manny/Rogan guys) are doing...There is NO way you will ever generate any interest in anyone watching 9/10 ball being played, whatever the rules..Only the pro's, and the insiders, will ever notice the difference ! :indecisive:...Good Luck in EVER changing that !....It will always be "THE TEACHER" !
SJD---Would it kill you, to maybe just this once, admit you were (gasp) 'not perfect' in all your assumptions ?
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[/QUOTE]Not me, I'm in my prime.
click picture and see why
That was worth a look! :thumbup:
Best,
Mike
reminds me of a pink hat, sitting on a pool table, telling me of my future
I'm sure we all like to experience your opinion, it's always so informative.
It reminds me of a pink hat, sitting on a pool table, telling me of my future challenges.
I'm sure we all like to experience your opinion, it's always so informative.
It reminds me of a pink hat, sitting on a pool table, telling me of my future challenges.
entertaining but way off base.
Been years but I had an off forum interchange of messages years ago with Keith. Nothing at all wrong with his ability to string words together and while he might have polished on things awhile his typo's weren't that extreme, some on here regularly are far harder to read than he was. I have no idea but I would assume he has improved somewhat from those days, I certainly have.
Enough difference that it is easy to see when JAM is typing and he is but a mistake to think that Keith is helpless on his own or that JAM has to put words in his mouth. The fact is that JAM writes better than almost all of us, she puts effort into it, or has put so much that it is automatic. No surprise that she writes better than Keith and better than some highly educated people on this forum.
Hu
Been years but I had an off forum interchange of messages years ago with Keith. Nothing at all wrong with his ability to string words together and while he might have polished on things awhile his typo's weren't that extreme, some on here regularly are far harder to read than he was. I have no idea but I would assume he has improved somewhat from those days, I certainly have.
Enough difference that it is easy to see when JAM is typing and he is but a mistake to think that Keith is helpless on his own or that JAM has to put words in his mouth. The fact is that JAM writes better than almost all of us, she puts effort into it, or has put so much that it is automatic. No surprise that she writes better than Keith and better than some highly educated people on this forum.
Hu
[/QUOTE]Not me, I'm in my prime.
click picture and see why
Yes Mr. Ringo, (er, Wiley)...Drinking is what I do best !
What's sad about being someone like Keith, who is as close to Minnesota Fats as still exists in pool - a real pool hustling living legend - is that when you were kicking everyone's ass, few would step up. Then as soon as you're out of practice, the lips start to fly. I remember Keith staring down top players until they were jelly. You did not just play Keith, you played the entire Keith show.
I was one of the doubters until 11 years ago when Keith decided to get in stroke and took 3rd at the US Open. Repeat, 3rd at the US Open! Folks, just think about that. Let's see someone else his age, away from the game so long, do that. THEN they can challenge Keith and it will actually mean something.
This is not to demean CJ - same exact thing goes for him. We need to show respect for greats and former greats. They REALLY WERE great and don't need to prove it every decade to the uninitiated.
I was one of the doubters until 11 years ago when Keith decided to get in stroke and took 3rd at the US Open. Repeat, 3rd at the US Open! Folks, just think about that. Let's see someone else his age, away from the game so long, do that. THEN they can challenge Keith and it will actually mean something.
This is not to demean CJ - same exact thing goes for him. We need to show respect for greats and former greats. They REALLY WERE great and don't need to prove it every decade to the uninitiated.
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I quoted the original post above your post. It was nothing more than a hypothetical situation/question yet everyone took it and ran with it.
Keith watched JAM post in this thread 39 times before he finally posted his thoughts. He could have ended the stupidity very early on but didn't. He read the thread from the beginning.
Keith McCready said:
I also hope this ridiculous thread comes to an end now but for very different reasons than Keith has.
ONB
For whatever reason, as I am sure you already know, pool is not allowed to have any heroes.
Today you play great and everyone wants to be your friend and tomorrow you miss a ball and you are a bum and could never play.
I've heard it all my life about all the greatest players who ever lived. {"Keith was one of them.}
Grady and I were talking one day and he told me that Keith could have been the greatest player who ever lived!
I pray the new show and the future brings only positive things for Keith and you !
SJD Really ??? What were you thinking, LOL ? CJ admit he's w....g... I couldn't even type it, it's so slim a chance !
CJWiley said:
You are right Froze-man...I must be losing my mind !..He was so busy being facetious in his reply to me, I doubt if he even read my post.. :sorry:... Here let me give him another chance, to make a 'sensible' response, to a few VERY GOOD questions !..But I'll probably just get another "pink hat" thingy again..(he is so clever)
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5009892&postcount=208
PS..I see his amazing gift to us all (that he started in 2011) that was supposed to transform the pool world, into NASCAR,
has now been moved to 2015 ???...Maybe he's been spending too much time on the keyboard..ya think ?
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You are right Froze-man...I must be losing my mind !..He was so busy being facetious in his reply to me, I doubt if he even
read my post.. :sorry:... Here let me give him another chance, to make a 'sensible' response, to a few VERY GOOD questions !..
..But I'll probably just get another "pink hat" thingy again..(he is so clever)
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5009892&postcount=208
PS..I see the thing he started in 2011, that was going to transform the pool world, has now been moved to 2015 ???...Maybe he's spending too much time on the forum ???
Tranforming the pool world> transforming your liver to stone... Glad to see you are spending too much time on the forums... Less harm you can do in the real world... Danny says hi... Well actually he didn't... He said you couldn't play.... =D