Calling the 9-ball question

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TheBasics

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Howdy All;

Has anyone ever heard of a rule for calling the pocket for the 9-ball in 9-Ball? All the
rest being the same. Shoot lowest number etc., etc. Was there ever a time when ???

Have looked through most of the different org's rules and nowadays seems it's all
"Slop" so-to-speak. Just to my thinking that it should be 'called' so it doesn't come off
as if it was just gunned in with zero thought behind it. You can always tell as the look
on the shooters face ( :shocked: ), gives it away.
Example, few weeks ago guy is eyeballin' a combo to drop the 9 in a corner pocket.
Lines up and wham slams it so hard the 9 jumps off the side rail scurries
all 'round the table and after bouncing off of 5 rails slides just as neat as ya please
into the side pocket on the opposite side of the table from the corner he was linein'
up for. Think it took till the next day before he could pry his jaw from off the floor.
Yet, he wins :rolleyes:

Thanks for any thoughts.

hank
 
TheBasics said:
Howdy All;

Has anyone ever heard of a rule for calling the pocket for the 9-ball in 9-Ball? All the
rest being the same. Shoot lowest number etc., etc. Was there ever a time when ???

Have looked through most of the different org's rules and nowadays seems it's all
"Slop" so-to-speak. Just to my thinking that it should be 'called' so it doesn't come off
as if it was just gunned in with zero thought behind it. You can always tell as the look
on the shooters face ( :shocked: ), gives it away.
Example, few weeks ago guy is eyeballin' a combo to drop the 9 in a corner pocket.
Lines up and wham slams it so hard the 9 jumps off the side rail scurries
all 'round the table and after bouncing off of 5 rails slides just as neat as ya please
into the side pocket on the opposite side of the table from the corner he was linein'
up for. Think it took till the next day before he could pry his jaw from off the floor.
Yet, he wins :rolleyes:

Thanks for any thoughts.

hank
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Rules are like elbows, everyone has a few. That said, I can tell you, in 9ball, gambling, the 9 has never been called. But, again, that said, most players, REAL players, who gambled on 9ball never needed to s**t the 9 in. Most good players simply run out. Between A players, the 9 gets s**t in maybe 2% of the time.
 
Nine ball is not a call shot game, which is why I'd much rather watch it than ten ball. That said, there was one event I can remember that required you to call the nine but nothing else, and that was the International Challenge of Champions (the ones I went to were at Mohegan Sun in Connecticut).

As for wild attempts to pocket the nine ball by hitting the cue ball hard, you can only hope that your opponents play as many of these shots as possible. Such shots may gain from time to time, but it is losing pool.
 
There are a few places around here that play call the 9-ball. It gets confusing when you make it in the wrong pocket because the rules never seem to be consistent on how to proceed. Here are a few rules I've seen:

1. 9-ball gets spotted and the shooter keeps shooting just like if you slop in any other ball.

2. 9-ball gets spotted and the opponent has the option to shoot or give it back. Kind of like a push out.

3. 9-ball gets spotted and the opponent has to shoot.

No matter which of the rule sets above they play by, there always seems to be some confusion at some point. I don't think it's a good set of rules. If you can slop in 8 other balls, why not be able to slop in the 9 as well?

I've also seen people play no early 9-balls which is a better rule and probably serves the same purpose. If you make the 9-ball early (intentional or unintentional) it spots up and you keep shooting.
 
Played in senior league.... had to call the nine. Most of the rules were not exactly standardized. Right or wrong that was the rule. Wrong pocket it got spotted. It got awkward sometimes. The opponent did not hear you call the pocket or you pointed and the opponent said they did see you point.
 
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Our local USAPL league uses called 9 ball rules, does not count on the break in any pocket.

Several tournaments I played in used the same rules.

Grady Mathews had some events when the 9 ball had to be go last, you could not even combo it on a called shot, it just spotted and you continued shooting.
 
sjm said:
That said, there was one event I can remember that required you to call the nine but nothing else, and that was the International Challenge of Champions (the ones I went to were at Mohegan Sun in Connecticut).
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Yep. Efren made a very obvious 9-ball one year and his opponent was credited with a win because of Efren not calling it. Brutal to say the least.

Maniac
 
easy-e said:
I totally get not liking it, but “one of the worst films ever made”?
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In my opinion, yes, very much so, especially considering the level of work Scorsese has produced both before and after. But, again, this is all simply my opinion. Some agree with me, some to a lesser extent, some not at all. I'm fine with that.
 
hang-the-9 said:
Our local USAPL league uses called 9 ball rules, does not count on the break in any pocket.
Several tournaments I played in used the same rules.
Grady Mathews had some events when the 9 ball had to be go last, you could not even combo it on a called shot, it just spotted and you continued shooting.
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Grady had some good ideas about rules.
"Call the pocket on all shots. If you luck in a ball it gets spotted. The opponent has the option of making you shoot again after all misses or spotted balls."
Wish all the tournaments would adapt that.
 
TheBasics said:
Howdy All;

Has anyone ever heard of a rule for calling the pocket for the 9-ball in 9-Ball? All the
rest being the same. Shoot lowest number etc., etc. Was there ever a time when ???

Have looked through most of the different org's rules and nowadays seems it's all
"Slop" so-to-speak. Just to my thinking that it should be 'called' so it doesn't come off
as if it was just gunned in with zero thought behind it. You can always tell as the look
on the shooters face ( :shocked: ), gives it away.
Example, few weeks ago guy is eyeballin' a combo to drop the 9 in a corner pocket.
Lines up and wham slams it so hard the 9 jumps off the side rail scurries
all 'round the table and after bouncing off of 5 rails slides just as neat as ya please
into the side pocket on the opposite side of the table from the corner he was linein'
up for. Think it took till the next day before he could pry his jaw from off the floor.
Yet, he wins :rolleyes:

Thanks for any thoughts.

hank
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as an example, on Tony Robles' Predator Tour the 9b must be called.

Generally, 9 balls in on any legal hit equals a win but, as mentioned, there are exceptions at some tourneys and tours.

best,
brian kc
 
Kickin' Chicken said:
go see Yentil.

COM won't look nearly as bad to ya... :eek::grin-square::confused:
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Brian - Yentl with Streisand? If, so, yeah, no s**t, huh... talk about a vanity press. She wrote it, directed it, produced it, starred in it, made all the costumes, did the cinematography, did the casting, painted all the scenery, did the makeup, yada, yada, yada... yikes!

:yeah:
 
sjm said:
Nine ball is not a call shot game, which is why I'd much rather watch it than ten ball. That said, there was one event I can remember that required you to call the nine but nothing else, and that was the International Challenge of Champions (the ones I went to were at Mohegan Sun in Connecticut).

As for wild attempts to pocket the nine ball by hitting the cue ball hard, you can only hope that your opponents play as many of these shots as possible. Such shots may gain from time to time, but it is losing pool.
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But it can go the other way. I certainly have closed a few set out out of nowhere by shooting with one eye closed.

Plus, if playing someone worse, it is a fine way to hide speed.
 
Most tournament 9 Ball isn't call the nine. But when you're making
a game with someone, I've seen all kinds of 'rules'...
Call the 9
Last pocket 9
Bank the 9

Gambling I've seen call 9 a bit when there's a player who rides the 9 a lot,
but those aren't really great players.

$.02
 
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