Can anybody ID this cue?

wolfgun

wolfgun

Wolfgun
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The cue was bought used around 1973 in the Detroit area. 58 1/2", 11mm tip. It's still straight as an arrow together and apart. There are no markings that I can find. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, Wolf
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wolfgun said:
The cue was bought used around 1973 in the Detroit area. 58 1/2", 11mm tip. It's still straight as an arrow together and apart. There are no markings that I can find. Any information would be appreciated. Thanks, Wolf
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Boy.. that really narrows it down... :D

Feels like Superbilliardsexpo.. all over again...

Well to start wolf, we're going to ask for pictures. Take good pics of the joint area, the butt cap, bumper etc.. as well as the cue in its full form.

JV
 
A friend of mine had one similiar to this. His had the letter "B" at the bottom of the BUTT section. We found his out to be an older Brunswick from the early 70`s. Just my 2 cents Good Luck
 
You're right, but still a Schmelke

pooldawg8 said:
A friend of mine had one similiar to this. His had the letter "B" at the bottom of the BUTT section. We found his out to be an older Brunswick from the early 70`s. Just my 2 cents Good Luck
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Schmelke, if I am spelling their name correctly, used to build cues for Brunswick. The pin/joint tells all the information in question. Schmelke manufactured either for their own sales or Brunswick.
 
pooldawg8 said:
A friend of mine had one similiar to this. His had the letter "B" at the bottom of the BUTT section. We found his out to be an older Brunswick from the early 70`s. Just my 2 cents Good Luck
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I think it was sold as a Brunswick and made by Dufferin.


Chris
 
wolfgun said:
If it's any help, the screw holding the bumper on is a square drive.
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Whatever it is, it's not a valuable cue or a collector cue. That's a Dufferin joint. Didn't the Schmelke's have a threaded collar, with another threaded tube on the shaft that fit inside?

I'll PM Pizza Bob - he specializes in these sort of crossover cues.

Chris
 
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I am on the side that think it is a Brunswick cue made by Dufferin. These are neat old cues, but they don't have any real value. I had 2 of them and a Brunswick case. Each of the cues went for $50-70 and the case went for $125...
Joe
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I had a dufferin way back in the day with the same joint. Funny, looks like they popped out the Maple leaf and pressed in the Brunswick logo.
 
TATE said:
Whatever it is, it's not a valuable cue or a collector cue. That's a Dufferin joint. Didn't the Schmelke's have a threaded collar, with another threaded tube on the shaft that fit inside?

Chris
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Actually Tate, I could be wrong. From my understanding Schmelke made that design joint(or originated) early mid seventies. Dufferin started using that style joint(their own variation) early 80's.

But as normally stated and sometimes proven I could be wrong.

I would have to see if I could dig up some of that information that I found one time when researching.

P.S. Schmelke also, did use a funky joint, but that era I believe was mid to late 60's. I have one if them funky jointed Brunswicks(Schmelke) collecting dust.
 
Bamacues said:
Each of the cues went for $50-70 and the case went for $125...
Joe
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You should have kept the case. They're going for closer to $200 now. The ones I like are the old cases with the padded handle.

Chris
 
The inlays look identical to the cue in Joe's picture. I want to thank everybody for taking the time to look and for offering your knowledge. Wolf
 
Tate nailed it, it is a Dufferin. It may have been sold as a Dufferin or as a Brunswick. They are usually roll-marked, but they are easily worn off. Look closely on the butt sleeve for the remnants of the roll mark. Usually the Brunswick Dufferins also had the "B" under lucite in a cirle on the butt, so this may be a Dufferin / Dufferin. No mistaking that joint - Scmelke's had no pilot and were symmetrical side to side (butt to shaft). These cues, when branded as B'wicks, were part of what they called their Silver Line and the time period is right also - early to mid 70's. With Dufferin no longer making cues and Brunswick history somewhat nebulous for this period, it may gain some value with time - but it won't hurt it to shoot with it in the meantime. Just my $.02 worth.

Adios,

Pizza Bob
 
odds are

Duffern used this joint in almost all their cues. It is part of a weight bolt scheme by changing the male side with the long pin you are supposed to be able to change the weight. Have never done it. Brunswick has used a whole lot of cuemakers and just put their name on them. Even the last run of Hoppe cues was made for them by Helmsteder and they were short spice instead of full. Schmelke mostly used a large male thread on the butt with a phillips head screw in the middle of it, both butt and shaft were brass collared and fairly long compared to most cues.

Orion
 
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