Can you spot where the "round points" end and the "Sharpee'd points" begin?

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breakshot said:
you mis-understand my meaning, a full splice cue usually has a much
better weight distribution and a nicer hit- inlaid points are just cosmetic, they serve no purpose!
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Did you think about this before you posted?
 
Fast n Loose was being a good guy tring to help both parties and you come with that reply! shure your names not richard because you come across like a DICK
 
p1noy said:
Why aren't you willing to use escrow service? I will take care of escrow fees just agree to this "fair resolution". Larry, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to tell that the points were altered.

You want me to ship the cue back to you but you won't sign for the package if the dispute in paypal is still open? What kind of logic is that? You've already smothered shit all over your face here on the forum and you want me to trust you with both the cue and the money in your hands? I sought for escrow service to be fair for both of us. Evan doesn't want to be involved in this, I copied you on my conversation with him.
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You say the point are altered Evan says that it is natural for the tips of points to fade and be touched up in the refinish he said this to me on the phone . I have many that have said that is commonly done . Do I need to go through and point out the posts that say that ? I got a pm this morning from a very well known cue maker saying it is indeed an R2

As for the escrow service I think its funny how this was all arranged between you and Markus with out ever consulting me. Asking me would have been diff. but to come right out and say I will do this and that with out consulting with me . Saying Larry will then issue a refund did upset me a little I will not be pushed around or told what to do .

As far as losing future costumers go and paypal . I do not wish to ever sell another cue here and even if I did I wouldnt accept paypal as payment . I have zero funds in my paypal and will never use paypal again it is a scam artist best friend .

Markus I tried to call you twice now and will try again as your opinion does matter to me .

Thanks ... Larry
 
rigmaster said:
Fast n Loose was being a good guy tring to help both parties and you come with that reply! shure your names not richard because you come across like a DICK
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Yeah keep calling me names that will help . You are very close to becoming the very first person that I have ever put on ignore .
 
iowa_player said:
You say the point are altered Evan says that it is natural for the tips of points to fade and be touched up in the refinish he said this to me on the phone . I have many that have said that is commonly done . Do I need to go through and point out the posts that say that ? I got a pm this morning from a very well known cue maker saying it is indeed an R2

As for the escrow service I think its funny how this was all arranged between you and Markus with out ever consulting me. Asking me would have been diff. but to come right out and say I will do this and that with out consulting with me . Saying Larry will then issue a refund did upset me a little I will not be pushed around or told what to do .

As far as losing future costumers go and paypal . I do not wish to ever sell another cue here and even if I did I wouldnt accept paypal as payment . I have zero funds in my paypal and will never use paypal again it is a scam artist best friend .

Markus I tried to call you twice now and will try again as your opinion does matter to me .

Thanks ... Larry
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I WASN'T TRYING TO TELL ANYONE WHAT TO DO, I WAS TRYING TO BE FAIR, AND SAFE FOR EVERYONE'S SAKE.

I WOULD PROVIDE A FAIR AND UNBIASED OPINION, IF/WHEN I SEE THE CUE IN PERSON.

I'VE HAD ALOT OF CUES GO THROUGH MY HANDS, AND I'M SURE I CAN TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN SHARPIE AND FADED EBONY.

MY BIGGEST PROBLEM WITH THIS SITUATION IS, I KNOW OF SOME SHADY REPAIR GUYS, THAT WOULDN'T THINK TWICE ABOUT PUTTING SHARPIE ON A CUE UNDER THE FINISH TO SCREW AN UNKNOWING BUYER.

I DON'T THINK YOU WERE THE ONE THAT DID THE SHARPIE MOVE, UT I CERTAINLY KNOW IT'S POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE DID. THEY ALSO COULD HAVE EASILY PUT AN OLDER SHAFT WITH A NEWER CUE TO MAKE IT APPEAR EVEN MORE AUTHENTIC.

I'M ALSO NOT DOUBTING EVAN'S CUE KNOWLEDGE, BUT IF THERE IS A CLEAR ROUNDED LINE ON EACH POINT, IT'S SHARPIE, NOT WOOD FADE. I HAVE SEEN VERY VERY FEW CUES FADE AT THE POINT TIPS, AND WHEN THEY DO IT'S NEVER UNIFORMED.

I THINK YOU GOT BONED BY THE GUY YOU GOT IT FROM, OR MAYBE EVEN HE GOT TAKEN BY HIS SELLER, BUT SOMEONE CERTAINLY SOLD THIS CUE KNOWING WHAT IT WAS, AND WHAT THEY WERE DOING.

MY PHONE IS ON, AND I'M NOT WITH ANY CUSTOMERS, SO FEEL FREE TO GIVE A CALL. I WASN'T LOOKING FOR TROUBLE, I WAS JUST TRYING TO HELP.
 
I'm shaking in my boots now! Like the ones you threaten I bet you don't get out much with that mouth of yours you probally get ***** SLAPPED often!
 
jasonlaus said:
Did you think about this before you posted?
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JASON,

I AGREE WITH HIM.......

A SHORT SPLICE CUE LIKE AN EARLY SCHON OR MOST OTHER SHARP POINTED CUES, THE POINTS ARE A STRUCTURAL PART OF THE CUE, AND CERTAINLY CHANGE THE HIT/FEEL OF THE CUE. A TRUE FULLSPLICE CUE (THAT ONLY A SELECT FEW CAN MAKE) IMO MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN HIT AND BALANCE.

AN INLAID POINT (ROUNDED CNC) HAS NOT EFFECT ON HIT AT ALL. THE ARE VERY SHALLOW INLAYS, AND DON'T EFFECT SPLINE OR HIT.
 
Ok 1 person on ignore I dont need to read there childish bullshit and it is not helping at all only keeping it going ! I am not here for a name calling matching with someone who has nothing to do with this deal .
As far as *****ing slapping me if you knew me you would know thats kinda funny . Not saying my ass cant be whipped but it will take someone who knows what they are doing I promise you that ;)
 
jasonlaus said:
That's the only reason for ANY points.
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NOT TRUE AT ALL. SPLICED POINTS, AND THE WOODS USED CERTAINLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN HIT. AND FULLSPLICE AND SHORT SPLICE ALSO HAVE DIFFERENT FEELS.

A MAPLE ON MAPLE CUE, WILL HIT AND BALANCE DIFFERENT THAN A MAPLE NOSED EBONY POINTED CUE, AND A EBONY NOSED MAPLE POINTED CUE FEELS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN EITHER OF THE OTHER TWO CUES.

ALSO DEPTH OF THE SPLICES, WIDTHS OF THE SPLICES, AND ANGLE OF THE POCKET CUTS WILL CHANGE THE SPLINE, AND STRENGTH OF A CUE, WHICH INDIRECTLY CHANGES THE HIT/FEEL OF A CUE.
 
FAST_N_LOOSE said:
NOT TRUE AT ALL. SPLICED POINTS, AND THE WOODS USED CERTAINLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN HIT. AND FULLSPLICE AND SHORT SPLICE ALSO HAVE DIFFERENT FEELS.

A MAPLE ON MAPLE CUE, WILL HIT AND BALANCE DIFFERENT THAN A MAPLE NOSED EBONY POINTED CUE, AND A EBONY NOSED MAPLE POINTED CUE FEELS TOTALLY DIFFERENT THAN EITHER OF THE OTHER TWO CUES.

ALSO DEPTH OF THE SPLICES, WIDTHS OF THE SPLICES, AND ANGLE OF THE POCKET CUTS WILL CHANGE THE SPLINE, AND STRENGTH OF A CUE, WHICH INDIRECTLY CHANGES THE HIT/FEEL OF A CUE.
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All wood plays different.
The fact is most people pick the wood for looks. That is my point. I think you know me well enough to know I understand the difference in hit.
 
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jasonlaus said:
All wood plays different.
The fact is most people pick the wood for looks. That is my point. I think you know me well enough to know I understand the difference in hit.
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I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. BUT, IMO, A PLICED CUE PLAYS DIFFERENT THAN A CNC POINTED CUE.

A NON POINTED CUE PLAYS MOST SIMILAR TO A CNC POINTED CUE.

TRUE SPLICED POINTS ADD SPLINE STRENGTH, AND TO ME THAT CHANGES THE HIT.

A SEARING POINTED CUE PLAYS DIFFERENT THAN HIS MERRY WIDOWS. NOT THAT HE DOES ASSEMBLY DIFFERENT, BUT THE POINTS CHANGE THE SPLINE STRENGTH, AND THAT CHANGES THE HIT.
 
I Just Spoke With Larry, And He Has Agreed To Allow Me To Get The Cue In Hand And Examine It. Ship The Cue To Me, I Will Inspect It, And We'll Go From There.

I Truly Feel That Larry Didn't Do Anything Dishonest Here. I Can Also Understand Why He Took Offense To My Initial Post, I Would Have Taken Offense As Well From His End. I Wasn't Telling Anyone What To Do, Just Giving An Option To Make This Go Away.

Let's Move Forward, And Get This Resolved.

P.s. If The Points Don't Have Issues, I'll Be Sending The Cue Back To You.
 
Hangem Better watch out he will put you on his ignore list like he did me! I now have a headache and feel a little sick to my stomach? Hope it's not the ignore list
 
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