Can't control my nerves

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Well I've been home for a few weeks now, and of course I have been playing a lot of pool. Unfortunately though I'm having a lot of trouble keeping my nerves under control in games that matter. I've played in two tournaments, and both times I squeaked through my first match (it wasn't pretty though). Both of those times I could feel myself shaking in my first match. Then in both tournaments I lost the next two matches, and both times it was just me beating myself. It wouldn't be so frustrating if I was actually getting beat by a better player and not just me missing shots that I should make 9/10 times. I know that in the tournaments I'm playing in that I should definitely be one of the top players, but I just can't seem to show up. I have three weeks before the next tournament I'm playing in, and it's the biggest one I'll shoot in for quite awhile. Once again it's definitely a tournament that I can do well in if I would just settle down and play my game. Any suggestions on what to do the next 3 weeks so I can actually bring my best game to the table?

Legend2k4,

Many posters have mentioned some very viable ideas.
"Act as if" and "fake it til you make it" are very similar. Also related is detached pantomime (imagine that your own body is simply a puppet to your will).
A good breathing rhythm will also help your shooting rhythm; funny thing, that.
3 weeks, huh? Gonna be tough to change any restrictive habits, so at least become aware of your own pre-shot routine. Here's why: the sooner you fall into "routine" the sooner you are comfortable with the task at hand.

Remember that your practice mode and your competition modes can be very dissimilar. See if you can find out what changes? It might be good advise to play an opponent for whatever stakes brings up a similar "pressure" to you as the tournament you plan to play in.

Best of luck,

Ivan
 
Now I'm pretty sure this isn't going to be a popular suggestion among the masses. But I suggest having a beer or 2, and no I dont mean getting drunk. I know for me it just helps me relax. Now I'm waiting for the response about me being a drunk or whatever, but it's quite the opposite. I rarely have more than 4 or 5 beers the whole week. Just if the nerves are getting me at the moment it gives me something else to get my mind away. Just a suggestion.
Trevor
 
Now I'm pretty sure this isn't going to be a popular suggestion among the masses. But I suggest having a beer or 2, and no I dont mean getting drunk. I know for me it just helps me relax. Now I'm waiting for the response about me being a drunk or whatever, but it's quite the opposite. I rarely have more than 4 or 5 beers the whole week. Just if the nerves are getting me at the moment it gives me something else to get my mind away. Just a suggestion.
Trevor

Lol ...your right. Beer is a crutch. A short term antidote. I would compare it to a bodybuilder using steroids for results. Of course beer is not that extreme but you get the parallels I am drawing here.

Instead do the hard work and figure out why and what works for yourself to fix the problem.
 
Like I said, it was just a suggestion. Not a big drinker here at all. I shoot most nights just drinking on a Dew. A beer or 2 usually doesn't hurt anyone(drunk driving excluded). When I first started shooting a few years ago I thought I shot better after 4 or 5, quickly realized differently. I deffinantly don't suggest getting drunk, I know my game deteriorates quickly at that point. Maybe I'm just getting older and wiser, and just don't care to drink much anymore.
Trevor
 
Like I said, it was just a suggestion. Not a big drinker here at all. I shoot most nights just drinking on a Dew. A beer or 2 usually doesn't hurt anyone(drunk driving excluded). When I first started shooting a few years ago I thought I shot better after 4 or 5, quickly realized differently. I deffinantly don't suggest getting drunk, I know my game deteriorates quickly at that point. Maybe I'm just getting older and wiser, and just don't care to drink much anymore.
Trevor

Your correct...older and wiser!
 
Yeah I do drink beer, and yes having a couple does calm me down. I do know too though of course that too many has a negative effect, so if I know I have a long wait before shooting again I switch to water or soda. I'm glad I've gotten so many good responses. Another good idea would probably be to refer back to the video tapes of a couple lessons I had with a BCA master instructor a few years back. I know it won't help with my nerves, but it might help me find some things that might be wrong with my preshot routine right now.
 
Hi guys, I'm new to the board and I have to say, it's discussions like this that made we want to join this board. Last month, I was almost at the point where I was going to quit after getting repeatedly knocked out of tourneys by weaker players. After reading these posts, I realized that I was, like a lot of you said, afraid of missing. I'll try some of these ideas and see how they work in my tourney tonight. Thanks for the great advice!

Vic.
 
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The beta blockers subject is an interesting one. We've probably had a thread devoted to it but I'm drawing a blank.

I'm inclined to agree that the beta blockers advice might not be best. He's talking about normal everyday shakes that probably 99% of serious players have felt and [hopefully] managed on their own without drugs.

Drugs seem like something you'd resort to when you just can't do it on your own... like a depressed person can't just cheer themselves up, or an adhd person just can't focus on their own. If you can do it without beta blockers, you should. If nothing else it'll be cheaper, and you'll never have to worry that you're dependent on a [sometimes banned] substance to play your best pool.

To be honest, I'd feel like a bit of a cheat if I popped some pills before every important match... like the guy who sneaks into the restroom and comes out all coked up and making every ball at warp speed. Well, that's how the legend goes anyway... I never personally saw such a thing.
 
It all becomes a matter of perspective. I liken this to a waterfall I used to jump off of. I would go to a 60 foot waterfall in Ohio. At first I would climb up halfway and it seemed like it was a mile high. I then jumped off the top which seemed like a mile high, but it also made the halfway point seem like an ant hill.

The same goes for tournaments. When you make it past that first round and into the second the first round it seems less scary and so on and so forth. You can make it even smaller by getting past the first game and just breath a sigh of relief...knowing that the world didn't end. After that first game just take a very deep breath and play your game.
 
Yeah I do drink beer, and yes having a couple does calm me down. I do know too though of course that too many has a negative effect, so if I know I have a long wait before shooting again I switch to water or soda. I'm glad I've gotten so many good responses. Another good idea would probably be to refer back to the video tapes of a couple lessons I had with a BCA master instructor a few years back. I know it won't help with my nerves, but it might help me find some things that might be wrong with my preshot routine right now.

I'm late to the party, but here you go.

1. Accept that you're going to be nervous. You're not the first pool player who was nervous, nor will you be the last.
2. It's okay to be afraid and still do something, like bungee jumping or skydiving. And it's okay to be nervous and still play pool. Nerves are just another form of fear. Everybody is nervous to a certain degree or another. If you didn't feel anything you wouldn't be human.
3. Most important - verbalize your nervousness before the match. To your opponent, your friend or whoever. There is MAGIC in telling the truth about how you feel. It is a huge release mechanism. And if you feel nervous again later, say so.
4. Now just forget everything and let yourself play pool. This is what you practiced for, to be able to handle EXACTLY this challenge. This is the true beauty of pool, that we are always challenged on every shot at every moment, while fighting an internal battle to keep ourself under control. Sounds complicated, doesn't it? Actually it's not.

Pool is all about mental discipline! It is a powerful tool to help us cope with all situations in life. Pool IS like life! If you can handle one, you can handle the other. :wink2:
 
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I'm late to the party, but here you go.

1. Accept that you're going to be nervous. You're not the first pool player who was nervous, nor will you be the last.
2. It's okay to be afraid and still do something, like bungee jumping or skydiving. And it's okay to be nervous and still play pool. Nerves are just another form of fear. Everybody is nervous to a certain degree or another. If you didn't feel anything you wouldn't be human.
3. Most important - verbalize your nervousness before the match. To your opponent, your friend or whoever. There is MAGIC in telling the truth about how you feel. It is a huge release mechanism. And if you feel nervous again later, say so.
4. Now just forget everything and let yourself play pool. This is what you practiced for, to be able to handle EXACTLY this challenge. This is the true beauty of pool, that we are always challenged on every shot at every moment, while fighting an internal battle to keep ourself under control. Sounds complicated, doesn't it? Actually it's not.

Pool is all about mental discipline! It is a powerful tool to help us cope with all situations in life. Pool IS like life! If you can handle one, you can handle the other. :wink2:

Is pool at a high level complicated? No! Well, why not?

Because when you develop the necessary discipline to play pool well, you are no longer "in your head", with all your thoughts and feelings bouncing around inside. Your consciousness is outwardly directed, at what is happening outside your body, not inside your head. You are now in tune with the balls, the table, your cue. All your thought processes are external, not internal.

You are actually not thinking at all, just letting yourself play. Your computer is now on automatic pilot, making all the correct calculations instantly, with no need for analysis. In pool, we call this being in "dead stroke." You no longer have to think about what needs to be done on each shot; your body/mind already knows in an instant, with no conscious thought. You are almost an observer of the game at this point, observing yourself playing pool. The cue becomes an extension of your arm, the tip like your fingertip. You feel every shot intimately.

You know, I never really verbalized all this before. But I think that every good pool player can relate to what I said here. They "know" this feeling I'm talking about. It is pure ecstasy when you achieve it and you will always want more. This is the addiction of pool, when for a moment you have mastered the game, and all your internal demons. Then you've found Zen.

All the above goes well beyond the everyday dreariness of worrying about "making a living, supporting your family, doing the right thing, having a real job, and on and on and on." All that stuff is the chatter that fills your head and gets in the way of playing great pool. The best players have traditionally kept that "internal" chatter to a minimum. Lassiter never married or even had a relationship. Mosconi forsook all else to play pool. He had no interest in politics, movies, theater or anything else for that matter. He only cared about the equipment he was going to play on and his cue. Even his wife came second and she knew it.

If you aren't a pool player, it would be hard to understand this single mindedness of purpose. But that's what it takes to excel. A great player cannot concern himself/herself too much about the politics of the game or the monetary rewards they derive from playing. They must remain focused on the biggest prize of all, fulfillment of self. Yes, they may look for sponsors or seek endorsements or show concern for prize money owed. But it is all merely a means to allow them to practice their art, and remain dedicated to the pursuit of perfection.

As Fats once said, "Pool is the toughest game of them all." And I won't argue that opinion.
 
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I think it has something to do with expectations. You practised hard, there's no shot you can't make, and you feel ready to compete. BUT, being too conscious of that, as you stated in your starting post, makes you scary. You're afraid of not fulfilling your expectations and not showing (to yourself first, and then to the world) your supposed speed. At that point, fear contaminates your expectations and you tilt.

I used to have the very same problem, it was hard to solve it but I finally made it. Just don't expect anything like winning, losing, playing well or bad, running x racks or x balls. The keyword for me is NO EXPECTATIONS. This doesn't mean "no goals", everyone has a goal, but it will just have to make you practise harder and harder. If your goal becomes an obsession, it's just an obstacle between you and your game.

I struggled a lot (I mean months if not years) before running my 1st 100+ in 14.1, I was playing great until the 90s and then a stupid miss would come (now I know why: I knew I could run 100 and was expecting that). I quit 14.1 for a while, then one day I was warming up for a tournament and I ran 108 (focusing on fundamentals, not on the run). I ran one more 100+ the day after.

I used to shake too. I partially solved that simply contracting my shooting arm's muscles for like 20 secs and then relaxing. I still shake sometimes, but much less compared to when I was "expecting" not to shake.

The whistling thing... Well, it works for me but I don't know if it will work for all. I.e., I can't play with earplugs.

The only thing you should have in your mind is to STAY DOWN on the shot (when we are not confident or scary, that's why we miss easy shots) and let your muscle memory do the rest. Whistle, or sing in you mind, if it works for you, and act like you don't care. That's what works for me, hope this helps.

Just my € 0.02 ;)
 
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Excellent Post!

I haven't read this thread and normally don't post into threads I haven't read completely but it's been mostly a sleepless night and I'm looking for things to do. I may be overlooking great posts or repeating what others have said. With that disclaimer I'll wade in. :rolleyes:

Jay is absolutely right about letting things happen. Think of it like driving a car. We are focused on our goal, getting from point "A" to point "B". While our conscious mind is kind of overseeing things and will step in if needed we don't consciously think to slow down, speed up, dodge a pot hole, or take a gentle curve, we simply do it. When it comes to driving we are living in the present. Living in the present there is no room for nerves.

Before a match is when nerves can build. We can control our breathing and to a certain extent our heartbeat. Slow normal even breathing like you were resting in bed or an easy chair will slow a racing heart and calm your mind. Then focus on what you can do, not what you want to do. Some are better at visualization than others and the better you can visualize the better off you are. Smell the chalk and powder, feel the cue in your hand and the muscles in your arm moving smoothly, see the tip hit the cue ball cleanly and the object ball dropping into the pocket with the slap on leather or plastic. You don't have to visualize three rail banks or kicks, just balls falling in pockets. When you step up to the table you may find that your visualization has you already warmed up and you are comfortable and shooting great from the first ball. In competition where no warm up was possible visualization allowed me to be in the groove from the first moment.

A final thought: Compete for yourself. If you are trying to please yourself instead of other people it is much easier to accept a good performance rather than always expecting the performance of a lifetime to gain the accolades of others.

Using the things outlined above I have won many a competition that I had "no right to win". I wasn't in practice, I might have had physical issues, but I was able to lay down well over 90% of my best game. Ultimately that is your goal, to play very well. One part of me demands perfection but there is another part that always remembers that isn't realistic.

Hu



Is pool at a high level complicated? No! Well, why not?

Because when you develop the necessary discipline to play pool well, you are no longer "in your head", with all your thoughts and feelings bouncing around inside. Your consciousness is outwardly directed, at what is happening outside your body, not inside your head. You are now in tune with the balls, the table, your cue. All your thought processes are external, not internal.

You are actually not thinking at all, just letting yourself play. Your computer is now on automatic pilot, making all the correct calculations instantly, with no need for analysis. In pool, we call this being in "dead stroke." You no longer have to think about what needs to be done on each shot; your body/mind already knows in an instant, with no conscious thought. You are almost an observer of the game at this point, observing yourself playing pool. The cue becomes an extension of your arm, the tip like your fingertip. You feel every shot intimately.

You know, I never really verbalized all this before. But I think that every good pool player can relate to what I said here. They "know" this feeling I'm talking about. It is pure ecstasy when you achieve it and you will always want more. This is the addiction of pool, when for a moment you have mastered the game, and all your internal demons. Then you've found Zen.

All the above goes well beyond the everyday dreariness of worrying about "making a living, supporting your family, doing the right thing, having a real job, and on and on and on." All that stuff is the chatter that fills your head and gets in the way of playing great pool. The best players have traditionally kept that "internal" chatter to a minimum. Lassiter never married or even had a relationship. Mosconi forsook all else to play pool. He had no interest in politics, movies, theater or anything else for that matter. He only cared about the equipment he was going to play on and his cue. Even his wife came second and she knew it.

If you aren't a pool player, it would be hard to understand this single mindedness of purpose. But that's what it takes to excel. A great player cannot concern himself/herself too much about the politics of the game or the monetary rewards they derive from playing. They must remain focused on the biggest prize of all, fulfillment of self. Yes, they may look for sponsors or seek endorsements or show concern for prize money owed. But it is all merely a means to allow them to practice their art, and remain dedicated to the pursuit of perfection.

As Fats once said, "Pool is the toughest game of them all." And I won't argue that opinion.
 
Is pool at a high level complicated? No! Well, why not?

Because when you develop the necessary discipline to play pool well, you are no longer "in your head", with all your thoughts and feelings bouncing around inside. Your consciousness is outwardly directed, at what is happening outside your body, not inside your head. You are now in tune with the balls, the table, your cue. All your thought processes are external, not internal.

You are actually not thinking at all, just letting yourself play. Your computer is now on automatic pilot, making all the correct calculations instantly, with no need for analysis. In pool, we call this being in "dead stroke." You no longer have to think about what needs to be done on each shot; your body/mind already knows in an instant, with no conscious thought. You are almost an observer of the game at this point, observing yourself playing pool. The cue becomes an extension of your arm, the tip like your fingertip. You feel every shot intimately.

You know, I never really verbalized all this before. But I think that every good pool player can relate to what I said here. They "know" this feeling I'm talking about. It is pure ecstasy when you achieve it and you will always want more. This is the addiction of pool, when for a moment you have mastered the game, and all your internal demons. Then you've found Zen.

All the above goes well beyond the everyday dreariness of worrying about "making a living, supporting your family, doing the right thing, having a real job, and on and on and on." All that stuff is the chatter that fills your head and gets in the way of playing great pool. The best players have traditionally kept that "internal" chatter to a minimum. Lassiter never married or even had a relationship. Mosconi forsook all else to play pool. He had no interest in politics, movies, theater or anything else for that matter. He only cared about the equipment he was going to play on and his cue. Even his wife came second and she knew it.

If you aren't a pool player, it would be hard to understand this single mindedness of purpose. But that's what it takes to excel. A great player cannot concern himself/herself too much about the politics of the game or the monetary rewards they derive from playing. They must remain focused on the biggest prize of all, fulfillment of self. Yes, they may look for sponsors or seek endorsements or show concern for prize money owed. But it is all merely a means to allow them to practice their art, and remain dedicated to the pursuit of perfection.

As Fats once said, "Pool is the toughest game of them all." And I won't argue that opinion.

Another great point Jay. I do sometimes put unnecessary pressure on myself just tying to impress my friends or worrying about what people think when they're watching me. That's probably why I seem to play my best pool when I'm not in my hometown, and playing somebody I don't know at all.
 
Now I'm pretty sure this isn't going to be a popular suggestion among the masses. But I suggest having a beer or 2, and no I dont mean getting drunk. I know for me it just helps me relax. Now I'm waiting for the response about me being a drunk or whatever, but it's quite the opposite. I rarely have more than 4 or 5 beers the whole week. Just if the nerves are getting me at the moment it gives me something else to get my mind away. Just a suggestion.
Trevor

It has worked for me, but it can wear you down. I would have one beer per match, so it would be a pretty reasonable beer an hour, for the most part. But when I'd win 4 or 5 matches, I'd get headachy and draggy.

I've done about as well by focusing on breathing, especially by remembering to breathe through the nose when down on important but missable shots. But mp3 might be the next thing for me.
 
It has worked for me, but it can wear you down. I would have one beer per match, so it would be a pretty reasonable beer an hour, for the most part. But when I'd win 4 or 5 matches, I'd get headachy and draggy.

I've done about as well by focusing on breathing, especially by remembering to breathe through the nose when down on important but missable shots. But mp3 might be the next thing for me.

I absolutely agree with you on this one. Usually a beer or 2 to start the tourny then switch to soda or water or whatever else. After all I'm from Wisconsin, they'll take away my citizenship if I don't have a couple.:wink:
 
Well I've been home for a few weeks now, and of course I have been playing a lot of pool. Unfortunately though I'm having a lot of trouble keeping my nerves under control in games that matter. I've played in two tournaments, and both times I squeaked through my first match (it wasn't pretty though). Both of those times I could feel myself shaking in my first match. Then in both tournaments I lost the next two matches, and both times it was just me beating myself. It wouldn't be so frustrating if I was actually getting beat by a better player and not just me missing shots that I should make 9/10 times. I know that in the tournaments I'm playing in that I should definitely be one of the top players, but I just can't seem to show up. I have three weeks before the next tournament I'm playing in, and it's the biggest one I'll shoot in for quite awhile. Once again it's definitely a tournament that I can do well in if I would just settle down and play my game. Any suggestions on what to do the next 3 weeks so I can actually bring my best game to the table?

I sent you a PM with some videos I have posted on youtube from a clinic I give on the mental game. Best of luck.

Self Sabotage:The Hidden Enemy
 
I absolutely agree with you on this one. Usually a beer or 2 to start the tourny then switch to soda or water or whatever else. After all I'm from Wisconsin, they'll take away my citizenship if I don't have a couple.:wink:

Me too, and not only am I from Wisconsin, but I'm from small town, Wisconsin.
 
Me too, and not only am I from Wisconsin, but I'm from small town, Wisconsin.

Lol the town I'm from is so small the bars outnumber, the number of blocks in the town, 3 to 2. lol You either live on main street or back street.
Trevor
 
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