Cardone got jerked around

[Snapshot9]

Yes ...

and it is getting 'nittier' by the second. Why? Well, back of the old days you got taken out back and the shit beat of you. Now, the nits know that the guys would get arrested for 'starting' something, and end up in jail, and
costing them more in legal and court fees than it is worth.

Somehow, they think this makes their 'invalid' arguement more 'valid', so we just end up with 'AIR barrel city'.

 

[BillYards]

This certainly is not the end of the story, since Saint Incardona and Byrd are going to match up again sometime.

If I were St. Inc. I would try to match-up as soon as possible... Byrd has to have his head hanging a bit low because he knows he ducked... should be easy pickings right now with that sitting in the back of his mind... he is a stone cold loser for their next match.

On a side note: I always thought it was spelled: "knit", which was short for "knitters". I first heard the word used by David Gomez and asked him about it and he explained that "knitters" were the little coward gamblers that would knit sweaters by the front door of the pool room waiting for a sure (and safe) score to walk in. David moved his hands like he was knitting up a storm while he told me this....

 

[John Barton]

I bet $100 that Cardone and Bryd will NOT match up at 11:7 for 5000 as agreed upon. I will give them 1 month to do it.

Any takers? Byrd will WHINE now that he needs MORE weight IF they even get to talking about it.

All these BS'ers - come and play and bet what you want - and THEN when someone shows up it's bark bark bark and duck duck duck.

About the only guy I ever see getting down ALL the time and often with the worst of it is Little John Macias. No disrespect Billy but you are known as a master gamemaker and while that may not be the case now - John goes out of his way to make bad games and it has paid off by making a PLAYER out of him.

At least this is my opinion.

 

[Thecoats]

Nit

This certainly is not the end of the story, since Saint Incardona and Byrd are going to match up again sometime.

If I were St. Inc. I would try to match-up as soon as possible... Byrd has to have his head hanging a bit low because he knows he ducked... should be easy pickings right now with that sitting in the back of his mind... he is a stone cold loser for their next match.

On a side note: I always thought it was spelled: "knit", which was short for "knitters". I first heard the word used by David Gomez and asked him about it and he explained that "knitters" were the little coward gamblers that would knit sweaters by the front door of the pool room waiting for a sure (and safe) score to walk in. David moved his hands like he was knitting up a storm while he told me this....

NIT as defined by Webster

nit[1,noun]nit[2,noun]NITnit-picking

Main Entry: 1nit
Pronunciation: \ˈnit\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English nite, from Old English hnitu; akin to Old High German hniz nit, Greek konid-, konis
Date: before 12th century
1: the egg of a louse or other parasitic insect; also : the insect itself when young
2: a minor shortcoming

 

[gulfportdoc]

I personally don't think either Tony.Ronnie,or Ricky are sleezes, but I question their honor as a gambler. Especially Ricky Byrd. He invited me to come to his tournament under the pretense that he would guarantee me action with several players,( which he didn't produce )then he matched a package game with me playing him 11/7 one pocket, if I played Joiner 11/7. He obviously thought that Joiner had tons the best of his game, so he would free roll with me on our game. Oops I just happened to beat Joiner, and Byrd had excuses why he couldn't play our game. I waited 2 days to play our game and then left.Now to me that's not a misunderstanding,is it?

I'm sure Billy's assessment is on the mark. I sat there and watched the entire match between Billy and Joyner. Periodically Ricky would sit beside the table and loudly taunt Billy-- presumably trying to throw him off. Billy just threw it right back to him. After all, he was playing in the era when taunts and sharking were commonplace. Billy not only played jam-up, but he behaved like one would expect a professional to do.

Doc

 

[Black-Balled]

All's fair in pool...

 

[freddy the beard]

Short for nit-sh*t

This certainly is not the end of the story, since Saint Incardona and Byrd are going to match up again sometime.

If I were St. Inc. I would try to match-up as soon as possible... Byrd has to have his head hanging a bit low because he knows he ducked... should be easy pickings right now with that sitting in the back of his mind... he is a stone cold loser for their next match.

On a side note: I always thought it was spelled: "knit", which was short for "knitters". I first heard the word used by David Gomez and asked him about it and he explained that "knitters" were the little coward gamblers that would knit sweaters by the front door of the pool room waiting for a sure (and safe) score to walk in. David moved his hands like he was knitting up a storm while he told me this....

Nit is short for nit-sh*t, referring to the feces of a little nit, aka young louse.

the Beard

 

[DeadPoked]

I'm curious in what form of gambling/sport the term nit came from. On wikipedia it list nit as a "A term used among poker players describing a player who is generally tight with money, and unwilling to involve himself in situations which are not clearly to his advantage."

That clearly translates well over to pool but I always thought that it originated within our sport.

 

[!Smorgass Bored]

We Need A Roving Notary To 'Seal The Deal'... imo

On a side note: I always thought it was spelled: "knit", which was short for "knitters". I first heard the word used by David Gomez and asked him about it and he explained that "knitters" were the little coward gamblers that would knit sweaters by the front door of the pool room waiting for a sure (and safe) score to walk in. David moved his hands like he was knitting up a storm while he told me this....

A 'nit' to me has always been someone with a heart the size of a bb. Someone that wouldn't raise the bet from $5 to $10 until they were up $200. Someone that had so many stipulations, that you couldn't ever get the damn game started.

Here's a definition from online:
As nitpicking inherently requires fastidious, meticulous attention to detail, the term has become appropriated to describe the practice of meticulously searching for minor, even trivial errors in detail (often referred to as "nits" as well), and then criticising them. "Nitpicker" in this sense was often used after 1951, predominantly in the United States.

Doug
( Billy srewed up the whole deal when he WON the first match )

 

[freddy the beard]

New career

I saw 2 one pocket players outside dividing up a five figure set.....dumped

Sounds like you are on your way to a new career, your own detective agency. When it came to "business" games I was always taught MYOB, mind your own business.

the Beard

 

[freddy the beard]

DVD's couple months away

when are the dvd's being released,I read the banking with the beard book and want the dvd.

The DVD's aint so easy to make correctly. They are a couple months away. In the meantime you should read my second book, The GosPool Accordin To The Beard, to while away the time waiting for the DVD's.

the Beard

 

[freddy the beard]

The usual way it's played

I know Billy & Tony is a separate issue, but I've always understood one-hit-and-the-pick to mean wait until after your inning before removing the ball. Do most people play it this same way as I mentioned?

Waiting until after the inning is the usual way it's played. However, in a proposition game you make your own rules and once made, they become standard every time you play again, unless you renegotiate them again, BEFOREHAND.

the Beard

 

[HouseMan]

and it is getting 'nittier' by the second. Why? Well, back of the old days you got taken out back and the shit beat of you.

What if the "nit" beats the shit out of the other guy, are they even then?

 

[uwate]

I was at the DCC in January and played on the table directly next to Incardona/Chohan. Me and my buddy Mark both saw this match and it was exactly like Billy described it, with him picking up his ball after he broke. AZE I know you are friends with T-Rex, but this was definitely a move and not a mistake.

 

[wincardona]

I saw 2 one pocket players outside dividing up a five figure set.....dumped

I hope your not referring to my game with Joiner, because if you are i'm going to set the record straight. After I played Joiner I asked Bill Rousey the owner of Southhaven Billiards in Memphis if he wanted to eat. We went to wings next to Breakers. Incidentally Bill Rousey had 1/3 of my bet with Byrd . My phone rang it was Joiner and he wanted to borrow $300from me , I asked him to come inside and he said he didn't want to in front of Rousey,so I walked out the front door and had a lengthy conversation with Joiner about the money he had borrowed in the past. I then reached in my pocket and gave him $300.Bill Rousey will testify to every thing I just described.So if your inference was about my game with Joiner,maybe you should wait before you imply uderhanded things,particularly if people can read in between the lines.If you weren't referring to my game maybe you should still wait. HOLE

 

[JCIN]

I saw 2 one pocket players outside dividing up a five figure set.....dumped

I love the guys who think EVERY GAME is a dump/move/heist. I guess some people think it makes them cool or "in the know" to say "It was business" about every set they see.

I know it happens, but not nearly with the frequency many of these "insiders" claim.

If you don't KNOW keep your opinions to yourself, and since the only way you can KNOW is to be in on it, that makes it a little more complicated.

I gotta admit Billy I find it hard to believe Cliff would ever put the bite on anyone.

 

[DeadPoked]

I hope your not referring to my game with Joiner, because if you are i'm going to set the record straight. After I played Joiner I asked Bill Rousey the owner of Southhaven Billiards in Memphis if he wanted to eat. We went to wings next to Breakers. Incidentally Bill Rousey had 1/3 of my bet with Byrd . My phone rang it was Joiner and he wanted to borrow $300from me , I asked him to come inside and he said he didn't want to in front of Rousey,so I walked out the front door and had a lengthy conversation with Joiner about the money he had borrowed in the past. I then reached in my pocket and gave him $300.Bill Rousey will testify to every thing I just described.So if your inference was about my game with Joiner,maybe you should wait before you imply uderhanded things,particularly if people can read in between the lines.If you weren't referring to my game maybe you should still wait. HOLE

I would imagine a conversation with Cliff about money he owes you would be lengthy. And I would also imagine a conversation with Cliff about him actually paying someone back would be quite the opposite. Anytime I hear that guys name it involves him bumming money off someone. I just don't understand how someone can live that way. Some people have no values or self respect.

And I would imagine a conversation with Cliff about him actually paying someone back would be quite short.

 

[corvette1340]

I love the guys who think EVERY GAME is a dump/move/heist. I guess some people think it makes them cool or "in the know" to say "It was business" about every set they see.

I know it happens, but not nearly with the frequency many of these "insiders" claim.

If you don't KNOW keep your opinions to yourself, and since the only way you can KNOW is to be in on it, that makes it a little more complicated.

I gotta admit Billy I find it hard to believe Cliff would ever put the bite on anyone.

lol, because Cliff would never and has never dumped, right? I wouldn't bet $5 on a Cliff match for him or against him.

 

[JCIN]

lol, because Cliff would never and has never dumped, right? I wouldn't bet $5 on a Cliff match for him or against him.

I have heard all the same shit you have about Cliff. Do I bet on him? No. But then I don't bet on many people. Something I also do not do is run my mouth about someone being in on a robbery unless I KNOW.

I have seen my share of things I was 100% sure was crooked. But unless I KNOW, not " I saw 2 guys talking after the match" or "I heard from my buddy" that something criminal happened I do not get on an open forum and accuse someone of stealing.

But you are right. If 2 guys like Billy and Cliff did cut someone up, I am sure they are gonna whack the money up in the parking lot of the restaraunt next door to the pool room. That is much more believable than Cliff taking a little nibble.

I am not naive. But unless you KNOW. Why start shit?

 

[johnf_34]

About the only guy I ever see getting down ALL the time and often with the worst of it is Little John Macias. No disrespect Billy but you are known as a master gamemaker and while that may not be the case now - John goes out of his way to make bad games and it has paid off by making a PLAYER out of him.

That is definitely true. I will say this though....He is one hell of a player because of all of that and I've heard about some of the games he's made. He is definitely able to make a game seem impossible and still pull it out too!