Centenials or aramith's

stevekur1

stevekur1

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Hey Guys,

the room i shoot in is about to go under a major overhaul, everything from a kitchen being added to the tables being moved around, repaired and re-clothed.

the owner is also looking into getting all new sets of balls. i personally like both the aramith super pros and centenials.

But the question is for a pool hall which ones last longer over constant play and cleaning ?

Thanks
Steve
 
My understanding is the Cents are the exact same balls as the Super Aramith Pro balls, except for the graphics. Some people believe there is some difference but consider this quote taken directly off the Saluc website:

As the top of the line, the Super Aramith PRO set distinguishes itself by its beautiful design and numbers and the maximized in-depth vitrification of its More importantly, it is a fully matched professional set, where precise calibration of each ball guarantees maximum consistency within the set. The Super Aramith PRO also exists in the Centennial design produced for Brunswick.

I know that quote seems to be missing some words in the first sentence but that's the way it appears on their web page. Here's the link to this quote: About Saluc

Given that, I prefer the Centennials. But the Super Pros are a little less money and if I was buying a bunch of sets maybe I'd get the Aramiths.
 
TheBook said:
Get the Aramiths. They are cheaper and no one will steal them.
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Just curious, why do you say no one will steal them compared to Centennials?

I also like the Aramiths and especially the measles CB, just my preference.
 
Centennials for me. Everyone knows how well they play and they look classy as well.
 
As DogsPlayingPool has stated, the Super Aramith Pros and Centennials are the same exact balls in size, weight and composition, just different appearance.


There is one thing about the Centennial's design....


The Centennials on the striped object balls have the numbers in the white, not on the stripe as on the Super Pro's or other balls.

The reason for this is so that when you spot a stripe, you do so number up. That means, the color stripe is horizontal like an equator going around the ball. This leaves NO visual aid whatsoever to the person shooting a "spot shot"...This was a little technicality in the past when Centennials were more popular and games with a lot of spot shots were also more popular.


The Super Aramith Pros visual design has the intent for the numbers to be easily seen from a distance in comparison to other balls. That is why they have larger, more bold numbering. The Super Pros are better tournament and TV balls in that respect.


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For a pool room, I think I'd get the new Aramith Tournament balls. Saluc claims that the Duramith technology used in these balls sets "a new benchmark in quality, durability & longevity, increasing their service life up to 50% ..."

It is not yet clear from Saluc whether the Duramith resin is also being used currently, or will be used in the future, for Super Aramith Pro balls or for Centennial balls.
 
Do not get the CHEAP ARAMITH, we bought 25 Set of these last AUGUST, and we are alread see scratches in the surface.
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Spend the Extra Money and get the Pro's below
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aramith super pros

Have been using them 3 years in our poolroom and they still look new. We just bought a couple sets to replace some that were scratched or dinged. We consolidate the slightly damaged balls and they sell immediately for $40, even have people waiting for them. Of course the balls are cleaned in our washer every time they are used and tables are vacuumed every day. The centennials are not worth the extra cost.
 
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The standard Aramith set is crap. I have a set. From day one they barely have any kind of luster to them. Even on a home table, which gets considerably less play than a pool hall table, they wear down quick and get dull. They stain easier too. But you can't complain because they're very inexpensive.

Contrary to what many people do or think, you shouldn't have to, nor should you wax balls. It's actually prohibited by the WPA rules for a reason. It might give you temporary good play, but it wears off and the extremes in play are worse than non-waxed balls. You go from really slick spin madness to dull no action. It's better to just use the Centennials or Super Pros. All they need is a wipe down or an occasional washing with water/soap. They don't need any kind of motorized polishing, compounds, waxing, buffing or any of that until they get really worn and that takes a while even in a pool hall. The fanatical polishing and buffing of these balls by some people probably does more to wear them down than anything else. I don't do that buff them once a week nonsense, yet my balls are clean. I hate skids and I like them shiny and clean just line anyone else. I shake my head when I hear someone elaborate about how they buff them every other day. For a new set of SP's or Centennials to need that even with a good amount of home play would take quite a while. I could bang away with mine for over a year without a wipe down and they'll still be better condition than the balls in 95% of pool halls. Anyhow, rant over.


I use the standard Aramiths only for guests (who launch balls from the table sometimes) and for jump practice (when I launch balls off the table).


I've visited pool rooms that have the standard Aramith set for the bangers, and use Super Pros for tournaments, leagues or when players want to match up. Probably not a bad idea. Let the bangers tear up the cheap balls, which they will. While the Super Pros and Centennials have a superior luster and finish to them that also lasts longer and plays better, I have not found them to be more resistant to chipping or deep scratches.
 
AtLarge said:
For a pool room, I think I'd get the new Aramith Tournament balls. Saluc claims that the Duramith technology used in these balls sets "a new benchmark in quality, durability & longevity, increasing their service life up to 50% ..."

It is not yet clear from Saluc whether the Duramith resin is also being used currently, or will be used in the future, for Super Aramith Pro balls or for Centennial balls.
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I know, they are very unclear, coy even. On the Saluc website it continues to say about the Super Pros: "The highest end phenolic resin available, designed in our laboratories." The website does not make it clear that the Duramith resin is ONLY in the Tournament set.

I actually emailed Saluc asking them what the differences were, but I haven't heard back. I'm not holding my breath. I think Fatboy has a set and he definitely thinks the new Tournaments are a better ball than the Super Pros. Though someone else in that same thread said that had researched the hell out of it and decided on the Super Pros. Plus since Saluc knows that the Cents sell well in spite of the fact they cost more than the Super Pros I can't help but wonder if the Tournaments are just different in the graphics, designed to look more like the Cents.
 
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Same company

I read an article on Aramith in one of the billiard mags a few years back that stated Centinials were made by Aramith. I think the super pro set and the Centinials are of equal quality. Their looks are just different. :wink:
 
For what it's worth, the two billiard rooms I play at in the central New Jersey area use Centennial exclusively, and promote locally that they do. I think that they look "classier"
 
Ive got both here at home and they play and polish the same (with a diamond ball polisher at least). Ive used em for break and jump practice for hours and they still look new. But like someone said. The centenialls just look classier. And they use the classic colors no pink balls.


For me its centenialls all the way.
 
Considering that just about every tournament (that i play in anyway) uses aramith balls with the measle ball... Dont you think you should play and practice with the same? Makes sense to me. I only play with aramith with the measle ball.
 
Steve,

As others pointed out current Centennials and Super Aramith Pros are made out of the same resin by Saluc. So, there shouldn't be a difference in wear.
I have Centennials, they're still shiny but they do scratch. FWIW, a friend use red circle cue ball with his Centennials and the red circle cue ball looks noticeably worn in comparison to the rest of the set.

If its in the budget, can the owner consider get both? Have one or two tables re-clothed in tournament blue with Super Aramith Pros, Centennials for local league/tournament action, and regular Aramith for the bangers.

When will the room be completely redone? I'll come out to Long Island to check it out.

Henry
 
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donny mills said:
Considering that just about every tournament (that i play in anyway) uses aramith balls with the measle ball... Dont you think you should play and practice with the same? Makes sense to me. I only play with aramith with the measle ball.
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This is good rationale. Always a good idea to try and reproduce tournament conditions as much as possible. The more the tourney feels like home turf, the less to adjust to - the less burden, the better the performance.
 
Fatboy said:
aramith tournment balls are the best balls I ever played with, they just came out recently and alot of people dont know about them or have them confused with other Aramith balls, I like Centannials 2nd best now

here see for your self:

http://www.saluc.com/visu/Tournament_Press_Release.pdf
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i recently got my own set of Aramith Tournament balls with the measle cue ball, and i really like them alot.

i was just wondering for a pool hall, which balls would be best over time !

Thanks
Steve
 
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