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Bridge length absolutely is a factor in deflection. I think it was Dr. Dave who proved this on video.
Center Pocket Music, the long-awaited CTE Pro One book, by Stan Shuffett.
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What diagram do you think you need? Are you contending that drawings can't be made to show the CTE principles? Or do you want something that shows the math that governs human perception in 3d space?
How many people have asked for the math behind Ghost Ball as a prerequisite for applying the method? You don't even need a drawing to teach GB. You don't need a drawing to learn GB. You also don't need drawings to learn CTE. Any such material can be helpful but none are required.
I actually tried to run 15 balls from middle pocket line in order with curtain. Duct tape failed after 10 balls when i finally got it and i got pissed.. I will do it through some other day. But i will not use curtain. I will use some other screen to block view. keeping heavy curtain in light frame is a pain in ass... Otherwise it is not too difficult if you just warm up little.
A diagram of the CTE shots .
Why would ghost ball need math. Who's asking for math ?
Ghost ball can be shown in seconds . Just line up the two balls . Wanna see Rodney Morris show it ?
Again . IS THERE A DIAGRAM OF CTE or not ? Can it be done ?
It is objective, after all .
Very true. To the point where one of the highest compliments we can give to a player is "he is a machine". When Lou says it is as much art as science he is simply wrong. While a player can learn to play, even at a fairly high level, without understanding any of the science behind the actions he performs I think that gaining understanding of at least some of the scientific principles is quite helpful. That's why I am grateful to Dr. Dave for his wonderful contributions to our sport's body of knowledge while at the same absolutely disgusted that he has chosen to mock Stan and CTE users.
This image comes from mhort's web page Offset and Pivot Aiming Systems There's a whole lot more on CTE if you're interested.
Not even CTE users. What does that tell you?
The feel part when we talk about CTE is not so much the mechanics of how to do it, but more being able to recognize when a particular aim is going to pocket the ball rather than miss. The more you play the more easily you recognize when a shot is "on" and so eventually is it automatic but it didn't start out that way. You had to learn it by rote. That's the feel/subjective part.
On another note, when did people start putting large cartoons in their signature line? You and JB have these cartoons that fill up my whole screen every time you post!
That's why I was impressed with Stan's setup. He made it so that the curtains are suspended from the ceiling and could be set on just about any part of the table as needed. As you already know getting it set up is involved. Stan can put his ANYWHERE on the table to make shots from any position towards any pockets he chooses. This is not some one time gimmick but a legitimate training tool that was set up to test the proof of concept. Anyone can go to Stan's house and see it and try it for themselves.
It won't convince anybody. I did this and posted the video. Apparently my effort proves nothing because I only hit a few balls and I took some practice shots before running the camera. Now you have to pocket a dozen three rail banks with a curtain to be valid. lol
... and this is why we call it a cult. It doesn't give you any pause when people you respect mock CTE.
How is that feel? You can project the cueball along a path and see pretty clearly when it will not make the object ball when the CTE method of aiming has been used correctly.The feel part when we talk about CTE is not so much the mechanics of how to do it, but more being able to recognize when a particular aim is going to pocket the ball rather than miss. The more you play the more easily you recognize when a shot is "on" and so eventually is it automatic but it didn't start out that way. You had to learn it by rote. That's the feel/subjective part.
On another note, when did people start putting large cartoons in their signature line? You and JB have these cartoons that fill up my whole screen every time you post!
As I have stated dozens of times though there are many shots which I have faced, including shots that I have NEVER shot before nor practiced at all, for which used CTE to aim it and when I get to the shot line and have NO IDEA if it's "on" and when I pull the trigger it goes. This feeling is common for CTE users. CTE allows us to try and make ridiculous shots which we previously were not interested in trying in match play.
Do you HONESTLY think that your "effort" was equal to Stan's demonstration? Furthermore as I stated you CLEARLY described that you figured out an OBJECTIVE aiming line for your second shot after many attempts and 15 minutes.
I gave you a chance to make an EASY $500 duplicating the videos I posted and you didn't have the time/ability/desire.....whatever your reason you didn't get it done.
So no, your effort DID NOT prove what you were attempting to prove. Your effort proved that you could make TWO shots and ONE of them was made through identifying an aim line to the edge of the object ball. You attempted to fool the viewers into thinking that Stan's demonstrations were not noteworthy and something that ANYONE can do.
If Usain Bolt ran a 100 yards in world record time blindfolded then you would put on a blindfold and run 1 yard and claim equivalence.
Here, you think it's such a gimmick? Ok, gather up all the naysayers you can find and pass the collection plate and you all can win $10,000 from me if you collectively have the cojones to bet. You pick ANY world class professional who has never learned anything about CTE. Snooker player, pool player doesn't matter. They go to Kentucky to Stan's ten foot table where the curtain is. They duplicate the videos Stan did and the player can get two attempts per video. As you stated in your video a player will know where the pockets are given enough time and I think no one would disagree that a world class player would fit your description of one that should be able to duplicate the videos EASILY.
It's truly amazing to me the lengths you guys will go to discredit someone when you won't spend a fraction of that effort to actually learn something. So glad that CTE isn't confined to this forum and earnest students subjected to the nonsense you all put out.
Tells you that we haven't bothered because we don't need to. The proof of concept was enough to get us interested and we learned what we needed to know to use it effectively.
The perception lines are accurately described and plenty of people can duplicate them. The other night on video I made the object ball in four different pockets five different ways from the same position using ONLY the instructions given to me by a guest on my stream. I would BET 100,000 dollars that you could not beat me in a similar shotmaking contest where we set up balls in random positions and pocket the object ball in as many pockets as possible in the fewest number of tries.
And we know that I suck as a player. Anyone better than me who uses CTE would straight up drill you badly to the point that you would look extremely foolish. You have a tiny chance against me and ZERO chance against anyone who is more than a cheerleader like me.
Except there are many who have duplicated the wing shots. Means a lot. You're just mad that you have ZERO chance to beat any serious CTE user at any shotmaking contest.
every solution solves for what is already there, the answer. Some methods are just better than others at it.
Um, using a Goldberg contraption doesn't exactly fit the solution stereotype.