Center Pocket Music, the long-awaited CTE Pro One book, by Stan Shuffett.

[JB Cases]

Don’t owe you squat.

Besides, you’d want video, lol. But have a nice day anyway.

Lou Figueroa

Nope you don't owe me anything. Your credibility however was already gone long before we made the match so we don't believe you.

As for your nonsense NOW claiming that an ahead set would not have mattered.....when offered to you for $20,000 you wouldn't step up and NO ONE stepped up saying they would back you. I guess when you have spent your whole life embellishing and obfuscating for money it gets hard to keep track as you get older and you just stay on permanent rewrite for your "stories".

 

[JB Cases]

Enjoy learning about stepping the cue ball.

 

[Dan White]

You can stop at not a tax attorney. You don't get to classify my business activity. Had I chosen to report the payout to Lou of $10,000 in cash, which he likely didn't report either, then I would have likely been able to give the IRS enough information for them to follow up.

You can certainly call the IRS and report my failure to report the transfer of $10,000 to Lou if you want to. Regardless of what you believe about what and how a business can claim and classify for expenses the fact remains that I paid Lou $10,000 and for him it is considered income. How he would deal with it and the division of funds to his "backers" would be between them and the IRS.

Here is the fun part, regardless of tax considerations I spent 10k and got five months of marketing out of it as well as years of continuing marketing benefit. You and lou can pretend that that's not worth anything but I think you know that isn't true.

This is really too easy. You're starting to bore me. At one time I saw you as sincere in your questions but really you're just engaging in the same old trolling.

I thank Stan for producing what he has in the face of your unwarranted attempts to discredit him. The Center Pocket Music book on Center to Edge aiming is a true labor of love and will live on well after we are gone.

Yes, the $10K given to Lou is income but if he then gave much of it to backers then that gets deducted. Your $10K expense is gambling and I'm pretty sure any conservative accountant would warn you about claiming it as marketing. Put it this way. Let's say you lost $10K shooting pool every month and put the matches on AZ and other places as advertising/marketing. Do you really think you'd get away with deducting $!20K if you lost it all?

I think the event with Lou probably did generate some interest for your company. Probably better if you had won, but I don't doubt that more people know JB Cases as a result.

 

[lfigueroa]

lol, you are REALLLY good at the "spin" - you said before that you DID NOT duck me. And LMFAO at the "bigger payday" BS. You had the opportunity to freeze up 20k in JANUARY - 6 full weeks BEFORE the match. From your side NOTHING, NADA, ZILCH.

AND.... you made a claim that you were at Derby with backers ready to post ANY amount and I said have ANY ONE or MORE of them come to me there in person and freeze up the 20k and NO ONE showed up. No. One. Stood. Up. For. You. despite your claim(lie?).

You showed up in STL a few months before our match and wanted to play small — I wasn’t going to risk beating you and you forfeiting the posted no show money to save yourself $7K.

And I don’t recall saying anything about backers and the DCC. What I do recall is watching your first round match against an Asian guy with a few friends and all of us laughing about how bad you still played.

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There has been some speculation as to why I didn’t play John in St. Louis, or Elizabeth, IN, or even Oklahoma City. The reason was pretty simple: John is not stupid (squirrelly: yes; stupid: no) and if I had beaten him, I felt he’d likely bail on the posted $3,000 show money and save himself $7,000. I could hear him crowing about how stupid I was to win a few hundred, or even a thousand, and how he’d saved himself $7K. In hindsight, seeing how John backed out on his other bets on the match I am confident I made the right call.

At the Derby a fourth great thing happened: The first round of the 1pocket division I watched John play his match against a gentleman from Hawaii. John played poorly. I mean, really bad. I was watching most of his match from a distance with One Pocket Ghost, from Chicago, and kollegedave and Dustin from St. Louis. We were all incredulous at his play, as he missed shot after shot and sold out over and over. I left after he sold out a wide open table the last game, thinking it was over, only to learn later that somehow, John actually won the final game. Regardless, watching John play that way in late January, after all his talk of playing champions and improving by at least two balls, was an incredible confidence booster.
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Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

No video? Who would have guessed? The difference between you and I is that you chose a career as a paid liar and you have been caught lying about your pool stories several times so......the DNA test says.......

I don’t think I’ve been caught lying about anything here.

You, on the other hand, have been shown to be lying just throughout this entire thread. If we were to go through your posting history, we’d be into the thousands of whoppers you’ve told over the years. All you do is make stuff up and see what you can get away with. Just look at all your accusations and denials in this one thread.

And as I’ve already said, you wanted to play a ridulous number ahead and demanded I travel to you. That wasn’t going to happen. As to my availability of backers to play you, lol, let’s just say I have at least three gold-plated offers to be staked for the whole amount anytime you make a reasonable proffer.

You have zero cred and it’s one of the reasons it’s hard to take anything you say about CTE seriously.

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JBcases said:
I actually feel sad for folks like you who think that this is just some sort of hocus pocus. I am about to play a match against a guy for $10,000 because he decided to bully me with this very attitude 12 years ago. I am going to rob him on camera in front of 2000 people on the net and a live audience. How am I going to rob him? Simply because I have the key to making shots now, an extremely accurate key. A key created by Hal Houle and further refined by Stan Shuffett that adds hundreds of more shots to my arsenal that I can now consistently make.
Does this require practice? Of course it does. Does it require a disciplined approach? Of course it does. My muscles ache right now from the new body positions I have to adopt to end up on the correct line. But the reward is the sweet sound of the ball hitting the back of the pocket and the sweet lie of the ball on banking where if it doesn't go it lays right in the small half diamond square which is what all one pocket players want. For one pocket especially Stan's methods are the nuts.
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Lou Figueroa

 

[cookie man]

You showed up in STL a few months before our match and wanted to play small — I wasn’t going to risk beating you and you forfeiting the posted no show money to save yourself $7K.

And I don’t recall saying anything about backers and the DCC. What I do recall is watching your first round match against an Asian guy with a few friends and all of us laughing about how bad you still played.

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There has been some speculation as to why I didn’t play John in St. Louis, or Elizabeth, IN, or even Oklahoma City. The reason was pretty simple: John is not stupid (squirrelly: yes; stupid: no) and if I had beaten him, I felt he’d likely bail on the posted $3,000 show money and save himself $7,000. I could hear him crowing about how stupid I was to win a few hundred, or even a thousand, and how he’d saved himself $7K. In hindsight, seeing how John backed out on his other bets on the match I am confident I made the right call.

At the Derby a fourth great thing happened: The first round of the 1pocket division I watched John play his match against a gentleman from Hawaii. John played poorly. I mean, really bad. I was watching most of his match from a distance with One Pocket Ghost, from Chicago, and kollegedave and Dustin from St. Louis. We were all incredulous at his play, as he missed shot after shot and sold out over and over. I left after he sold out a wide open table the last game, thinking it was over, only to learn later that somehow, John actually won the final game. Regardless, watching John play that way in late January, after all his talk of playing champions and improving by at least two balls, was an incredible confidence booster.
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Lou Figueroa

So now i am curious. As bad as John plays and played against you do you have an opinion as to why the match was so close. 9-7 final score. Was the match not as close as the score indicates in your opinion. Did you not play up to speed. Just curious, no hidden agenda.

 

[JB Cases]

Yes, the $10K given to Lou is income but if he then gave much of it to backers then that gets deducted. Your $10K expense is gambling and I'm pretty sure any conservative accountant would warn you about claiming it as marketing. Put it this way. Let's say you lost $10K shooting pool every month and put the matches on AZ and other places as advertising/marketing. Do you really think you'd get away with deducting $!20K if you lost it all?

I think the event with Lou probably did generate some interest for your company. Probably better if you had won, but I don't doubt that more people know JB Cases as a result.

Get away with? There would be nothing to get away with, business is expense and revenue. If I put up $100 for a contest that's expense. If I get $200 from the contest activity that is revenue. Gross profit before further expense is $100.

You wouldn't want to bet against me on this even less than you would want to have a shot making contest.

But when you call the IRS to drop your dime on my loss and Lou's income I am sure you will frame it like you have framed your criticism of cte. Biased and incomplete.

 

[lfigueroa]

So now i am curious. As bad as John plays and played against you do you have an opinion as to why the match was so close. 9-7 final score. Was the match not as close as the score indicates in your opinion. Did you not play up to speed. Just curious, no hidden agenda.

As I think I’ve alluded to in the past, there was something going on during that match that only a couple of other people besides myself were aware of.

I can see no benefit in revealing what that was. I will say that I let a couple of games get away from me. But I was playing conservatively knowing that regardless, a couple of games wasn’t going to matter.

So yes, generally speaking, I don’t think the match was as close as the final score would indicate. Funny though, everyone sees that match through a different prism.

Lou Figueroa

 

[Dan White]

Get away with? There would be nothing to get away with, business is expense and revenue. If I put up $100 for a contest that's expense. If I get $200 from the contest activity that is revenue. Gross profit before further expense is $100.

You wouldn't want to bet against me on this even less than you would want to have a shot making contest.

But when you call the IRS to drop your dime on my loss and Lou's income I am sure you will frame it like you have framed your criticism of cte. Biased and incomplete.

I'm guessing you do your own accounting. The issue is whether the pool match is gambling or marketing. Common sense says it is gambling that you ultimately derived some marketing benefit from. Nonetheless, if it is gambling then you cannot deduct it the way you did.

 

[JB Cases]

I don’t think I’ve been caught lying about anything here.

You, on the other hand, have been shown to be lying just throughout this entire thread. If we were to go through your posting history, we’d be into the thousands of whoppers you’ve told over the years. All you do is make stuff up and see what you can get away with. Just look at all your accusations and denials in this one thread.

And as I’ve already said, you wanted to play a ridulous number ahead and demanded I travel to you. That wasn’t going to happen. As to my availability of backers to play you, lol, let’s just say I have at least three gold-plated offers to be staked for the whole amount anytime you make a reasonable proffer.

You have zero cred and it’s one of the reasons it’s hard to take anything you say about CTE seriously.

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JBcases said:
I actually feel sad for folks like you who think that this is just some sort of hocus pocus. I am about to play a match against a guy for $10,000 because he decided to bully me with this very attitude 12 years ago. I am going to rob him on camera in front of 2000 people on the net and a live audience. How am I going to rob him? Simply because I have the key to making shots now, an extremely accurate key. A key created by Hal Houle and further refined by Stan Shuffett that adds hundreds of more shots to my arsenal that I can now consistently make.
Does this require practice? Of course it does. Does it require a disciplined approach? Of course it does. My muscles ache right now from the new body positions I have to adopt to end up on the correct line. But the reward is the sweet sound of the ball hitting the back of the pocket and the sweet lie of the ball on banking where if it doesn't go it lays right in the small half diamond square which is what all one pocket players want. For one pocket especially Stan's methods are the nuts.
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Lou Figueroa

And? Didn't work out. So what? Being pumped up abs hyping a match which is a marketing vehicle for my business is normal behavior. Getting to call you out for what you are was simply a free bonus.

I'm guessing you do your own accounting. The issue is whether the pool match is gambling or marketing. Common sense says it is gambling that you ultimately derived some marketing benefit from. Nonetheless, if it is gambling then you cannot deduct it the way you did.

Again you should have stopped at "not a tax attorney". Your guessing on tax matters is even less knowledgeable than your guessing about cte.

Any attorney will tell you that what the average person "thinks" is common sense is not in synch with what the law actually says. My advice again is that you should absolutely call the IRS to voice your concerns about whether Lou Figueroa and his group reported their income accurately and and other concerns you have about JB Cases tax filings.

Or, we could just bet on it.

 

[lfigueroa]

And? Didn't work out. So what? Being pumped up abs hyping a match which is a marketing vehicle for my business is normal behavior. Getting to call you out for what you are was simply a free bonus.


Again you should have stopped at "not a tax attorney". Your guessing on tax matters is even less knowledgeable than your guessing about cte.

Any attorney will tell you that what the average person "thinks" is common sense is not in synch with what the law actually says. My advice again is that you should absolutely call the IRS to voice your concerns about whether Lou Figueroa and his group reported their income accurately and and other concerns you have about JB Cases tax filings.

Or, we could just bet on it.

or, you just might want to know that the federal statute of limitations on taxes is three years from the due date.

Lou Figueroa
not a tax attorney

 

[JB Cases]

As I think I’ve alluded to in the past, there was something going on during that match that only a couple of other people besides myself were aware of.

I can see no benefit in revealing what that was. I will say that I let a couple of games get away from me. But I was playing conservatively knowing that regardless, a couple of games wasn’t going to matter.

So yes, generally speaking, I don’t think the match was as close as the final score would indicate. Funny though, everyone sees that match through a different prism.

Lou Figueroa

Oh stop, you have already said you think I was getting coached. I told you that I was not and the shot that convinced you was one that was universally derided by every top player on onepocket.org

The fact is you suck as a player. I mean you're a decent average player, nothing special, no special skills. You're an example of how far an average player can get with endless rote practice. There are dozens of players in every city who are at your level.

I told you that if you think I was coached then we can play with me getting coached and you could get odds on the money. You declined that as well.

You talk out of both sides of your mouth. I did everything to accommodate you and have all of the receipts to prove it. I made a match in good faith and your little group did some shady shit leading up to the match. For me that completely unethical behavior was actually unexpected but unfortunately not unbelievable.

I had fun and am still having fun. CTE is stronger than ever and you have been part of that in your twisted, sick and cruel way.

 

[JB Cases]

or, you just might want to know that the federal statute of limitations on taxes is three years from the due date.

Lou Figueroa
not a tax attorney

That doesn't matter to me. I am not worried about your taxes anyway. Don't care and never did. I brought it up in one of the conversations just to needle you.

If I were to reveal the conversations leading up to the match it would be even more clear to the board here who is the nit and liar between us. Just to be absolutely clear, it isn't me.

Just a small taste though, one of your "demands" was that the match be ppv and you wanted a cut of it. I said no to that nonsense and iirc even stated my marketing reach reasons in addition to the absurdity of asking people to pay to watch two amateurs stink up the joint.

 

[Dan White]

And? Didn't work out. So what? Being pumped up abs hyping a match which is a marketing vehicle for my business is normal behavior. Getting to call you out for what you are was simply a free bonus.


Again you should have stopped at "not a tax attorney". Your guessing on tax matters is even less knowledgeable than your guessing about cte.

Any attorney will tell you that what the average person "thinks" is common sense is not in synch with what the law actually says. My advice again is that you should absolutely call the IRS to voice your concerns about whether Lou Figueroa and his group reported their income accurately and and other concerns you have about JB Cases tax filings.

Or, we could just bet on it.

No need to be so grouchy about it. I find it an interesting tax situation and while I'm not an attorney I have had my own business for 23 years and I've seen some things. If your accountant (if you have one) recommends that you deduct gambling losses I'd be very interested to learn how that is done. Nothing to do with Lou or CTE.

 

[lfigueroa]

Oh stop, you have already said you think I was getting coached. I told you that I was not and the shot that convinced you was one that was universally derided by every top player on onepocket.org

The fact is you suck as a player. I mean you're a decent average player, nothing special, no special skills. You're an example of how far an average player can get with endless rote practice. There are dozens of players in every city who are at your level.

I told you that if you think I was coached then we can play with me getting coached and you could get odds on the money. You declined that as well.

You talk out of both sides of your mouth. I did everything to accommodate you and have all of the receipts to prove it. I made a match in good faith and your little group did some shady shit leading up to the match. For me that completely unethical behavior was actually unexpected but unfortunately not unbelievable.

I had fun and am still having fun. CTE is stronger than ever and you have been part of that in your twisted, sick and cruel way.

I was there, sitting directly across from them and I would have to say he was definitely getting coached. A couple of guys I was sitting with were laughing in disbelief that they were getting away with it. I saw a couple of times towards the end of the night, John looked like he didn't have a clue what to do, the guy whispers something, and John comes with a very advanced shot that we didn't see all night.
Even though I was there I am speculating a bit too because I couldn't hear what was being said but...I'd bet a LOT of money that it wasn't just pats on the back and pep talking.

I was there right next to Koop, and while I couldnt hear what Dennis was saying I'd bet my left nut he was being coached on specific shots and moves. The holding his hands in front of his mouth and whispering to John and ducking his head behind the pillar to say something from john was actually kinda comical. it looked like he was trying to be sneaky and didn't know how.
We spoke to Lou for a few short minutes last night afterwards and Lou knows/knew he was being coached at that point. He did say he was pissed about it, but more upset about some of the rolls, and the fact that with a max of 3 games left they shoulda finished it yesterday.
To Lou's credit he was as cool as a cuke, and it didnt seem to affect his composure. I know I wouldnt have been as calm if I was shooting with 20k in the middle.

it was a streamed match at which i was only a spectator. It wasn't my job or any other spectator's to to video or police anything. Shame that there wasn't a stream camera pointed in their direction. Bottom line is it was between john, lou (+his backers), accustats, and ed liddawi to do or say something about it during the match.
A couple of people and myself are telling you what we saw. you take it for whatever you think its worth. If we told you we saw so and so take money outa someone else's wallet would you feel safe leaving anything around the guy just because we didn't film it?
also for your pics or it didnt hap
anyone here really think what we said is unbelievable or outlandish?
the buzz in the spectator seating area was "I cant believe lou or his guys aren't saying anything... do you think somebody will?"
oh well karma wins. Im not a JBnutCase fan by any means, wouldn't know lou from a hole in the wall, and i had no $$ on the match, but I'm glad the cheating didn't pay off and I had a great time hangin with Koop n Fred.

Hey Cory,
I'm not from the area and had no clue who the guy was. Just seemed weird, if you were there, to see someone other than John's wife allowed to go and sit where he did. Some guy we were sitting with was the one who told me who it was, how good he plays, and to watch him cupping his hand over his mouth and telling John what to do.
In all fairness, none of could hear what was being said but it was very suspicious to say the least.
In the end I guess it didn't really matter. The better player won, IMO, and I got to hang out with a few friends I don't get to see all that often. It was a win for Koop and that's all that matters to me

So, you chose to have a noted 1p player as the person to give you non-1p related encouragement, and to keep you centred? Wasn't your wife in the room? I'm just wondering why you'd choose a known 1p player to give you words of encouragement, and not use him for his knowledge. This is the story you expect us to believe? Oh yeah....it fits in with the other truckloads of bullshit you've spread.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

That doesn't matter to me. I am not worried about your taxes anyway. Don't care and never did. I brought it up in one of the conversations just to needle you.

If I were to reveal the conversations leading up to the match it would be even more clear to the board here who is the nit and liar between us. Just to be absolutely clear, it isn't me.

Just a small taste though, one of your "demands" was that the match be ppv and you wanted a cut of it. I said no to that nonsense and iirc even stated my marketing reach reasons in addition to the absurdity of asking people to pay to watch two amateurs stink up the joint.

Knock yourself out about our conversations, please.

And that “demand” was just to work you up, lol. I could not have cared less about the PPV. We were all laughing about here in STL because we knew you wanted a big audience snd charging for a steam of two bangers playing 1pocket would have driven any numbers way down.

Lou Figueroa
PPV, what a joke

 

[JB Cases]

You showed up in STL a few months before our match and wanted to play small — I wasn’t going to risk beating you and you forfeiting the posted no show money to save yourself $7K.

And I don’t recall saying anything about backers and the DCC. What I do recall is watching your first round match against an Asian guy with a few friends and all of us laughing about how bad you still played.

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There has been some speculation as to why I didn’t play John in St. Louis, or Elizabeth, IN, or even Oklahoma City. The reason was pretty simple: John is not stupid (squirrelly: yes; stupid: no) and if I had beaten him, I felt he’d likely bail on the posted $3,000 show money and save himself $7,000. I could hear him crowing about how stupid I was to win a few hundred, or even a thousand, and how he’d saved himself $7K. In hindsight, seeing how John backed out on his other bets on the match I am confident I made the right call.

At the Derby a fourth great thing happened: The first round of the 1pocket division I watched John play his match against a gentleman from Hawaii. John played poorly. I mean, really bad. I was watching most of his match from a distance with One Pocket Ghost, from Chicago, and kollegedave and Dustin from St. Louis. We were all incredulous at his play, as he missed shot after shot and sold out over and over. I left after he sold out a wide open table the last game, thinking it was over, only to learn later that somehow, John actually won the final game. Regardless, watching John play that way in late January, after all his talk of playing champions and improving by at least two balls, was an incredible confidence booster.
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Lou Figueroa

Your memory is so "convenient" - you ducked me years before that. In fact you ducked me several times when we were at tournaments and events together. You never would have played at all if you hadn't been dragged into it.

In addition I challenged you dozens of times and not a single time did you ever accept until another hater made you play.

Your bigger payday excuse doesn't wash because I gave all of you the opportunity to double the bet and freeze up the whole amount 6 weeks before the match. That's all on record.

I didn't say you ducked me when I came in during your morning practice St. Louis. I knew you would not play before I asked and I knew you would try to spin it. That wasn't even the event I was speaking about.

You could have made a match any year since 2001 and you didn't. I offered to play when I didn't know cte and when I barely knew the rules to one pocket. Like I said I have more heart in my poop than you have ever dreamed about having.

Speaking of being nitty though why don't you tell us your "story" of why you got barred from the historic Cue and Cushion? Tell us oh billiard guru just what transpired that they gave such a wonderful person the boot.

I would personally be sick if I weren't allowed to go into one of the most historic pool rooms in America. Especially for the reason you were kicked out. That's quite embarrassing in my opinion. But let's hear your version. I am sure that the characterizations in your story cast you as the oppressed customer.

Again, I don't want to forget my manners and wish to thank you for your continued efforts to promote Center to Edge aiming and my cue case brand.

 

[lfigueroa]

Your memory is so "convenient" - you ducked me years before that. In fact you ducked me several times when we were at tournaments and events together. You never would have played at all if you hadn't been dragged into it.

In addition I challenged you dozens of times and not a single time did you ever accept until another hater made you play.

Your bigger payday excuse doesn't wash because I gave all of you the opportunity to double the bet and freeze up the whole amount 6 weeks before the match. That's all on record.

I didn't say you ducked me when I came in during your morning practice St. Louis. I knew you would not play before I asked and I knew you would try to spin it. That wasn't even the event I was speaking about.

You could have made a match any year since 2001 and you didn't. I offered to play when I didn't know cte and when I barely knew the rules to one pocket. Like I said I have more heart in my poop than you have ever dreamed about having.

Speaking of being nitty though why don't you tell us your "story" of why you got barred from the historic Cue and Cushion? Tell us oh billiard guru just what transpired that they gave such a wonderful person the boot.

I would personally be sick if I weren't allowed to go into one of the most historic pool rooms in America. Especially for the reason you were kicked out. That's quite embarrassing in my opinion. But let's hear your version. I am sure that the characterizations in your story cast you as the oppressed customer.

Again, I don't want to forget my manners and wish to thank you for your continued efforts to promote Center to Edge aiming and my cue case brand.

Never challenged (you, OTOH...).

As to C&C, Chris, the countermand had a hard-on for me, plain snd simple. And honestly, I have never for one day missed going into that place. But I can see how you’d like it, lol.

BTW, you pay off all of that $50-$60K you recently went off for? Claiming that was good marketing? And how about that video mea culpa you posted afterwards? Now THAT was sumthin’ special. Great PR there, son. A real showcase for CTE.

Lou Figueroa

 

[JB Cases]

Lou Figueroa

Lol, the tape tells the tale. No one who watched the match would ever think I was being coached.

Please point out the shots.... Go ahead, the video is all on my you tube channel. We can discuss every shot you wish to discuss for as many posts as you need to cover all angles.

You all got the layout wrong and got the situations wrong and yet despite all that being pointed out by myself and others you continue to promote yet another falsehood.

If I had been coached then you would not have had any chance to win. Your only chance was me being too emotional and giving you games. Obviously though you want it both ways. You want to act like I had no chance and that you were stealing and then when I call that out you go back to saying you think I had a chance. Because you cannot stand to think that that you could ever lose to me legitimately. You did however lose the first time we played in Chicago in 2003ish at the RSB tournament. I was very complimentary of you and your game back then and we were friendly and cordial in person.

But you lost to me and I could barely spell one pocket at that time. Now you will probably try to claim that you were dumping to set me up for a match ten years later......

Your greatest accomplishment in pool was beating a case maker 9-6 in a game you consider yourself to be an expert in. Yet when it comes to expertly analyzing the game you failed and want to portray yourself as some sort of hustler. The total game count between us stands at 10 for you and 8 for me. Not exactly an example of you dominating.

The level of super nobody-ness that you are at is kind of hilarious when contrasted with your self-delusional rating of your reach and influence. I joke with my kids that I am a "celebrity" on you tube and they bring me back to earth when they remind me that my follower/subscriber count is in the thousands not the hundreds of thousands.

So in the grand scheme i am a super nobody in pool and the world at large and you are even less than that. What you will leave the pool world with are some mildly entertaining stories with some grains of truth and significant embellishment. These stories will resonate with people who like reading pool stories and be infuriating to those who know the truth that you didn't tell.

So go on and tell everyone that I was being coached and that's the only reason I got to seven games. The video tells a different story but you already know that no one is going to sit through nine hours just to compare your words to the actual play.

 

[lfigueroa]

Lol, the tape tells the tale. No one who watched the match would ever think I was being coached.

Please point out the shots.... Go ahead, the video is all on my you tube channel. We can discuss every shot you wish to discuss for as many posts as you need to cover all angles.

You all got the layout wrong and got the situations wrong and yet despite all that being pointed out by myself and others you continue to promote yet another falsehood.

If I had been coached then you would not have had any chance to win. Your only chance was me being too emotional and giving you games. Obviously though you want it both ways. You want to act like I had no chance and that you were stealing and then when I call that out you go back to saying you think I had a chance. Because you cannot stand to think that that you could ever lose to me legitimately. You did however lose the first time we played in Chicago in 2003ish at the RSB tournament. I was very complimentary of you and your game back then and we were friendly and cordial in person.

But you lost to me and I could barely spell one pocket at that time. Now you will probably try to claim that you were dumping to set me up for a match ten years later......

Your greatest accomplishment in pool was beating a case maker 9-7 in a game you consider yourself to be an expert in. Yet when it comes to expertly analyzing the game you failed and want to portray yourself as some sort of hustler.

The level of super nobody-ness that you are at is kind of hilarious when contrasted with your self-delusional rating of your reach and influence. I joke with my kids that I am a "celebrity" on you tube and they bring me back to earth when they remind me that my follower/subscriber count is in the thousands not the hundreds of thousands.

So in the grand scheme i am a super nobody in pool and the world at large and you are even less than that. What you will leave the pool world with are some mildly entertaining stories with some grains of truth and significant embellishment. These stories will resonate with people who like reading pool stories and be infuriating to those who know the truth that you didn't tell.

So go on and tell everyone that I was being coached and that's the only reason I got to seven games. The video tells a different story but you already know that no one is going to sit through nine hours just to compare your words to the actual play.

I don’t need to tell anyone anything because I didn’t see it until the end of the day.

I’ll just let the eye witness accounts speak for themselves. A shot-by-shot anylasis would be pointless because you’d just blow hard and deny everything dispite evidence to the contrary, as you’re doing now.

You’re very lucky PF didn’t have a camera pointed your way.

Lou Figueroa