Champion Players have Incredible Cue Ball Control - What is Their Secret?
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not quite ........
I honestly would never expect CJ to acknowledge any theories not for sale on one of his DVDs,
All theories are covered.
I didn't read the thread, I am here now coz I am surprised that there are so many pages on a topic tha says good pool players play pool well.
No shit.
No shit.
The Game is about Balance B-A-L-A-N-C-E-Y-O-U-R-S-E-L-F
In pocket billiards the left side is just as important as the right side.
I have students that put their right foot behind the "line of the shot" and worry about what their right shoulder and arm is doing when it's just as important to put your left foot parallel to the "line of the shot" and firm up the left side so it's a solid foundation to "hit against".
Pocket Billiards is a two sided game - the "left and right" are two sides of the same coin.
In pocket billiards the left side is just as important as the right side.
I have students that put their right foot behind the "line of the shot" and worry about what their right shoulder and arm is doing when it's just as important to put your left foot parallel to the "line of the shot" and firm up the left side so it's a solid foundation to "hit against".
Pocket Billiards is a two sided game - the "left and right" are two sides of the same coin.
In pocket billiards the left side is just as important as the right side.
I have students that put their right foot behind the "line of the shot" and worry about what their right shoulder and arm is doing when it's just as important to put your left foot parallel to the "line of the shot" and firm up the left side so it's a solid foundation to "hit against".
Pocket Billiards is a two sided game - the "left and right" are two sides of the same coin.
In theory weight distribution should be 45% for each leg and 10% on your bridge arm
The differences of the left side are more than the similarities the biggest being the moving parts ,,
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So, by weight, the left side (in shooting pool) is 20% more dominant?
So the left leg has 45% of the weight and the left arm has 10% of the weight, so the ratio by weight is: Left - 55% and Right - 45%?
So, by weight, the left side (in shooting pool) is 20% more dominant relative to weight distribution?
This seems like an awkward way to play consistently ........
So the left leg has 45% of the weight and the left arm has 10% of the weight, so the ratio by weight is: Left - 55% and Right - 45%?
So, by weight, the left side (in shooting pool) is 20% more dominant relative to weight distribution?
This seems like an awkward way to play consistently ........
when seeking balance in our game we must also recognize the similarities.
Yes, indeed - there's a big difference between "heads" and "tails". However, when seeking balance in our game we must also recognize the similarities.
Yes, indeed - there's a big difference between "heads" and "tails". However, when seeking balance in our game we must also recognize the similarities.
C'mon man, that's just too easy to understand. Can't we get a little more tangential about this stuff? Geesh, BB, gonna confuse everybody. :wink:
Almost didn't read the pages of this thread due to the out-of-nowhere flame war on the first page, but very glad I did. Zen in the Art of Archery quotes, Buddy Hall facts, great different 'tips' to experiment with and study. That's what I love AZ for: I find a few of these tips (such as Pidge speaking of, I think, shooting with the same acceleration and tempo on all shots, and controlling the power/finishing speed with the length he brings back his grip-hand) and then study them for a week, and then they're somehow just 'in' my stroke, and I reap the rewards. When I'm playing poorly, I'll start cycling through all the different tips, trying to visualize them with special care as I line up and evaluate a shot, and it usually tethers me back down to a solid game.
Love to hear about Buddy Hall, my favorite player of all time. How can you watch him and not love how he seems to have it all figured out and boiled down into perfection? When I first began playing, I tried to copy Efren's stroke. Then I saw my first Buddy Hall tapes, grew up and COMPLETELY copied Buddy's stroke, every pause, the way he steps into the shot, everything. Wish I could use it to the same effect he's able, but I wouldn't want to shoot any other way.
Thanks for the thread, C.J., lots of winning thoughts here. I certainly agree about the length of your follow through creating different bite or reaction on the cue-ball. It may be something subconscious causing it, something without much to do with the after-contact follow through, but its 'trigger' for me -- that is, the only way I can mobilize it intentionally and make it happen in a non-accidental manner -- is by focusing on an exaggerated follow through. Remember, 'it' shoots.
Love to hear about Buddy Hall, my favorite player of all time. How can you watch him and not love how he seems to have it all figured out and boiled down into perfection? When I first began playing, I tried to copy Efren's stroke. Then I saw my first Buddy Hall tapes, grew up and COMPLETELY copied Buddy's stroke, every pause, the way he steps into the shot, everything. Wish I could use it to the same effect he's able, but I wouldn't want to shoot any other way.
Thanks for the thread, C.J., lots of winning thoughts here. I certainly agree about the length of your follow through creating different bite or reaction on the cue-ball. It may be something subconscious causing it, something without much to do with the after-contact follow through, but its 'trigger' for me -- that is, the only way I can mobilize it intentionally and make it happen in a non-accidental manner -- is by focusing on an exaggerated follow through. Remember, 'it' shoots.
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Jerry Forsyth
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Remember, 'it' shoots.
Yes, "The player and target must become One"..... "It" shoots.
The more someone thinks about doing something subconsciously the worse off they become.....the key is to "take away," not "add to" you thinking or concepts. Keeping it simple by anchoring the essential parts of the game into a pre shot routine.....then you can actually get down on the shot as if it's already been made.
Play Well, 'The Game is the Inner Teacher'
Almost didn't read the pages of this thread due to the out-of-nowhere flame war on the first page, but very glad I did. Zen in the Art of Archery quotes, Buddy Hall facts, great different 'tips' to experiment with and study. That's what I love AZ for: I find a few of these tips (such as Pidge speaking of, I think, shooting with the same acceleration and tempo on all shots, and controlling the power/finishing speed with the length he brings back his grip-hand) and then study them for a week, and then they're somehow just 'in' my stroke, and I reap the rewards. When I'm playing poorly, I'll start cycling through all the different tips, trying to visualize them with special care as I line up and evaluate a shot, and it usually tethers me back down to a solid game.
Love to hear about Buddy Hall, my favorite player of all time. How can you watch him and not love how he seems to have it all figured out and boiled down into perfection? When I first began playing, I tried to copy Efren's stroke. Then I saw my first Buddy Hall tapes, grew up and COMPLETELY copied Buddy's stroke, every pause, the way he steps into the shot, everything. Wish I could use it to the same effect he's able, but I wouldn't want to shoot any other way.
Thanks for the thread, C.J., lots of winning thoughts here. I certainly agree about the length of your follow through creating different bite or reaction on the cue-ball. It may be something subconscious causing it, something without much to do with the after-contact follow through, but its 'trigger' for me -- that is, the only way I can mobilize it intentionally and make it happen in a non-accidental manner -- is by focusing on an exaggerated follow through. Remember, 'it' shoots.
Yes, "The player and target must become One"..... "It" shoots.
The more someone thinks about doing something subconsciously the worse off they become.....the key is to "take away," not "add to" you thinking or concepts. Keeping it simple by anchoring the essential parts of the game into a pre shot routine.....then you can actually get down on the shot as if it's already been made.
Play Well, 'The Game is the Inner Teacher'
Next time I play I'm going to think about that. Or, not think about it. Or, heck I don't know whether to think or not!
Anyway, it sounds like good advice. Thanks.
I would suggest that the bridge-arm is actually central to the body
so taking a balanced 10% of weight distribution.
If right handed (same applies left handed ) you would step into the shot
with your right leg in alignment so your bridge arm would have to come across
central to your body .
.the two sides must work harmoniously together
I like to press my fingers firmly into (on to) the slate of the table.....this makes everything "rock solid," and allows the feeling of perfect balance between the left and right sides of the body......the two sides must work harmoniously together to create the synergistic effect.
I like to press my fingers firmly into (on to) the slate of the table.....this makes everything "rock solid," and allows the feeling of perfect balance between the left and right sides of the body......the two sides must work harmoniously together to create the synergistic effect.
I like to press my fingers firmly into (on to) the slate of the table.....this makes everything "rock solid," and allows the feeling of perfect balance between the left and right sides of the body......the two sides must work harmoniously together to create the synergistic effect.
Gripping the cloth
I wondered who it was leaving finger marks on the table (g)
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you don't want a "triangular dynamic"
Yes, that's what it seems like for sure.
I actually feel like I'm digging into the table with my finger tips. The best bridge in rotation games is up on your finger tips JUST up on your index finger and little finger.
Two fingers is better than three because you don't want a "triangular dynamic" that isn't balanced as well as possible......it's like a three legged stool, or table, they're not stable.
Yes, that's what it seems like for sure.
I actually feel like I'm digging into the table with my finger tips. The best bridge in rotation games is up on your finger tips JUST up on your index finger and little finger.
Two fingers is better than three because you don't want a "triangular dynamic" that isn't balanced as well as possible......it's like a three legged stool, or table, they're not stable.
Yes, that's what it seems like for sure.
I actually feel like I'm digging into the table with my finger tips. The best bridge in rotation games is up on your finger tips JUST up on your index finger and little finger.
Two fingers is better than three because you don't want a "triangular dynamic" that isn't balanced as well as possible......it's like a three legged stool, or table, they're not stable.
I had to read it three times, but you really did say that. So, sawing off the leg of a three leg stool makes it more stable, huh?