Cincyman's ebony sneaky...
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I just got back from hitting a few racks with the like new condition "Varney 2000" I acquired from Joe of BamaCues this week. While all of the Hella Balou was going on with KV... of which I was right out there in muck calling him out for his day in court, I saw that Joe had this Older Varney up for a rather reasonable price. So... while I would never put a nickel in Mr. Varney's hands due to his attitude & back door games. With everyone occupied, I sneaked this one like a traitor in the night just so I could see what an 8 year old Varney might taste like. I felt kinda dirty, but now I come clean. Hee Hee
The cue can still be seen at;
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=103736&highlight=varney+2000
I guess it has been refinished recently, because it is seriosuly "LIKE NEW".
Now for the reason I bought it. I play with a plain jane Blevins cue that I would not sell for $1000. I don't know if I would ever sell it. All because of the hit and feel of the hit it produces with it's little 12 mm shafts. I wanted to see how the infamous Varney stacks up to my Blevins in the hit department.
First the drum.... I mean cue roll. The Varney 2000 is absofrickinglutely straight after all these years?? I didn't even ask Joe Bama about that before hand. Definitely Straight.
The hit..... hmmm definitely one of the most solid hits out there with 12.75 mm tips, but I think this one leans to the word "hard" as opposed to "solid with nice feedback". I could see why his cues break extremely well, but I never got that same sense of feeling the energy transfer to the cueball when I hit it like I do with my Blevins. Better than most, just not in league with my Blevins. Reminded me of the Steve Klein I used to have. Very stiff hitting cue with little feedback. Of course that was back in 1999-2000, so I am sure Steve's and Kevin's cuemaking has matured some.
Is it a keeper? YEP! Now, I hope Mr Varney figures out how to do better business customer service where he isn't pi$$ing so much future bu$iness away. I am sure he has his share of problems making ends meet like a lot of up and coming cuemakers. He makes a solid cue. Not sure it's worth spending a year to wait for. I know Ernie Martinez just came back on the scene late last year and he has been filling orders for more complex cues in less time. Ernie is a Master and has had his share of problems, but his attitude with his customers has never been the problem. I would wait 2 years for a cue from Ernie. I like Ernie a lot.
Lastly..
After all the recently declared war of the worlds opver Varney's business practices, It must be said> If a man gives Kevin Varney 100% up front payment and Kevin says the cue will be there in 1 week, 2 mos, or even 6 months and you come on AZB crying a year later about not receiving your cue as promised...... I say too F'in bad. After this, I could care less if KV takes someone to the cleaners. We have all seen what can happen when you prepay and wait..... and wait...... and wait......... I would never pay 100%. In fact I only had to wait a few days for mine. Oh... maybe that is why I buy pre-owned. 100% down for a cuebuild leaves no leverage whatsoever.
The cue can still be seen at;
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=103736&highlight=varney+2000
I guess it has been refinished recently, because it is seriosuly "LIKE NEW".
Now for the reason I bought it. I play with a plain jane Blevins cue that I would not sell for $1000. I don't know if I would ever sell it. All because of the hit and feel of the hit it produces with it's little 12 mm shafts. I wanted to see how the infamous Varney stacks up to my Blevins in the hit department.
First the drum.... I mean cue roll. The Varney 2000 is absofrickinglutely straight after all these years?? I didn't even ask Joe Bama about that before hand. Definitely Straight.
The hit..... hmmm definitely one of the most solid hits out there with 12.75 mm tips, but I think this one leans to the word "hard" as opposed to "solid with nice feedback". I could see why his cues break extremely well, but I never got that same sense of feeling the energy transfer to the cueball when I hit it like I do with my Blevins. Better than most, just not in league with my Blevins. Reminded me of the Steve Klein I used to have. Very stiff hitting cue with little feedback. Of course that was back in 1999-2000, so I am sure Steve's and Kevin's cuemaking has matured some.
Is it a keeper? YEP! Now, I hope Mr Varney figures out how to do better business customer service where he isn't pi$$ing so much future bu$iness away. I am sure he has his share of problems making ends meet like a lot of up and coming cuemakers. He makes a solid cue. Not sure it's worth spending a year to wait for. I know Ernie Martinez just came back on the scene late last year and he has been filling orders for more complex cues in less time. Ernie is a Master and has had his share of problems, but his attitude with his customers has never been the problem. I would wait 2 years for a cue from Ernie. I like Ernie a lot.
Lastly..
After all the recently declared war of the worlds opver Varney's business practices, It must be said> If a man gives Kevin Varney 100% up front payment and Kevin says the cue will be there in 1 week, 2 mos, or even 6 months and you come on AZB crying a year later about not receiving your cue as promised...... I say too F'in bad. After this, I could care less if KV takes someone to the cleaners. We have all seen what can happen when you prepay and wait..... and wait...... and wait......... I would never pay 100%. In fact I only had to wait a few days for mine. Oh... maybe that is why I buy pre-owned. 100% down for a cuebuild leaves no leverage whatsoever.
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poolplayer2093 said:
SOMEONE THAT CAN'T BE TRUSTED, NEVER TRUSTS ANYONE ELSE.....
(ONE OF LIFE'S LESSON)
Varney Cues said:
I DON'T CARE WHAT THE POSTMASTER TOLD YOU....AFTER ALL THE BS SURROUNDING THIS CUE, THERE IS NO EXCUSE WHY YOU DIDN'T SPEND AN EXTRA 10-15 BUCKS TO SEND IT EXPRESS. BUT INSTEAD, IT COST YOU ANOTHER STRIKE BECAUSE THE CUE WAS DELIVERED ON WEDS AS PROMISED.
charliel said:
SO KV....ANOTHER ATTEMPT TO GET A NEGATIVE THREAD LOCKED......
WILL SOMEONE PLEASE BAN charliel AND KEVIN VARNEY.....WE ALL KNOW THEY ARE THE SAME PERSON
Matt_24 said:
THAT BRINGS BACK FOND MEMORIES.....
I THINK I MAY START ANOTHER ID, JUST TO ARGUE WITH MYSELF. IT'S MORE FUN THAN KISSING YOUR OWN @SS
charliel said:
NOT MY FIRST THREAT....... I'M NOT HARD TO FIND
P.S. IF THIS DOESN'T GET HIM BANNED, I'M NOT SURE WHAT WILL....AND BY "HIM" I MEAN VARNEY, BECAUSE IT'S THE SAME GUY
charliel said:
I HAVE BALLS WITOUT MY KEYBOARD.......I'M THAT ONE THAT HAS ALL MY INFORMATION POSTED.
KEVIN, STOP HIDING BEHIND ANOTHER ID AND HAVE SOME BALLS. BE A MAN, AND MAKE RIGHT ALL THE THINGS YOU'VE DONE WRONG, AND I'LL STOP BEING NEGATIVE TOWARDS YOU. THREATS AREN'T GONNA DO THAT. IT'S NOT THE FIRST TIME, I'VE BEEN THREATENED, AND IT CERTAINLY WON'T BE THE LAST.
Remy said:Man this place is getting ugly
NOT REALLY....IT'S JUST ONE KAMAKAZIE TRYIN TO PROTECT HIS BS REPUTATION BY GETTING THREADS DELETED/LOCKED.
i personally had hoped that mark (cincyman) got his cue, loved it, and all this shit went away
i guess that isn't going to happen, UNFORTUNATELY
i know mark
and i know kevin
i stayed out of this from day one, other than pm'ing kevin to ask if there was anything i could do to help the situation,
but what pisses me off about these threads,
and i'm not blaming ANYONE at all, it's just human nature i suppose, it's like seeing an accident on the highway, EVERYBODY HAS TO LOOK
this one particular thread has 2800plus views already
i put a sweet ass cue that i made for myself in the gallery today,
it's got 180 views
hell, some of those are by me!!!!!
i guess that isn't going to happen, UNFORTUNATELY
i know mark
and i know kevin
i stayed out of this from day one, other than pm'ing kevin to ask if there was anything i could do to help the situation,
but what pisses me off about these threads,
and i'm not blaming ANYONE at all, it's just human nature i suppose, it's like seeing an accident on the highway, EVERYBODY HAS TO LOOK
this one particular thread has 2800plus views already
i put a sweet ass cue that i made for myself in the gallery today,
it's got 180 views
hell, some of those are by me!!!!!
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