Consensus "Greatest of All Time" (GOAT) List

Scratch85 said:
Wu - 4
Strickland -1
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FYI, I added your name and scores to the first post.

Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 166
2 - Shane Van Boening - 81
3 - Earl Strickland - 80
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 74
5 - Nick Varner - 73
6 - Mike Sigel - 63
7 - Wu Chia-ching - 49
8 - Dennis Ocollo - 44
9 - Johnny Archer - 43
10 - Francisco Bustamante - 42
11 - Buddy Hall - 42

People who have already voted in the second round (total number: 8): dr_dave, Get_A_Grip, JazzyJeff87, Runnintable, Scratch85, skogstokig, TX Poolnut, West Point 1987

Thank you for participating,
Dave

PS: Remember, we're not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
sjm said:
Efren Reyes 2
Mike Sigel 1
Nick Varner 1
Alex Pagulayan 1
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FYI, I added your name and scores to the first post.

Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 168
2 - Shane Van Boening - 81
3 - Earl Strickland - 80
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 75
5 - Nick Varner - 74
6 - Mike Sigel - 64
7 - Wu Chia-ching - 49
8 - Dennis Ocollo - 44
9 - Johnny Archer - 43
10 - Francisco Bustamante - 42
11 - Buddy Hall - 42


People who have already voted in the second round (total number: 9): dr_dave, Get_A_Grip, JazzyJeff87, Runnintable, Scratch85, sjm, skogstokig, TX Poolnut, West Point 1987

Thank you for participating,
Dave

PS: Remember, we're not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
mark187 said:
Earl 5 points
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FYI, I added your name and score to the first post. You just bumped Earl from 3 to 2 past SVB.

Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 168
2 - Earl Strickland - 85
3 - Shane Van Boening - 81
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 75
5 - Nick Varner - 74
6 - Mike Sigel - 64
7 - Wu Chia-ching - 49
8 - Dennis Ocollo - 44
9 - Johnny Archer - 43
10 - Francisco Bustamante - 42
11 - Buddy Hall - 42

People who have already voted in the second round (total number: 10): dr_dave, Get_A_Grip, JazzyJeff87, mark187, Runnintable, Scratch85, sjm, skogstokig, TX Poolnut, West Point 1987

Thank you for participating,
Dave

PS: Remember, we're not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
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dr_dave said:
FYI, I added your name and score to the first post. You just bumped Earl from 3 to 2 past SVB.

Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 168
2 - Earl Strickland - 85
3 - Shane Van Boening - 81
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 75
5 - Nick Varner - 74
6 - Mike Sigel - 64
7 - Wu Chia-ching - 49
8 - Dennis Ocollo - 44
9 - Johnny Archer - 43
10 - Francisco Bustamante - 42
11 - Buddy Hall - 42

People who have already voted in the second round (total number: 10): dr_dave, Get_A_Grip, JazzyJeff87, mark187, Runnintable, Scratch85, sjm, skogstokig, TX Poolnut, West Point 1987

Thank you for participating,
Dave

PS: Remember, we're not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
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All around efren but 9 ball in there prime Johnny, earl, or bustamante were the best and they have the world 9 ball titles to prove it. In Johnny's prime with his break an shot making I think he's the best 9 ball player ever.
 
poolpimp13 said:
All around efren but 9 ball in there prime Johnny, earl, or bustamante were the best and they have the world 9 ball titles to prove it. In Johnny's prime with his break an shot making I think he's the best 9 ball player ever.
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Please vote with a total score of 5 to make your opinion official.

Thanks,
Dave
 
Bob Jewett said:
5 for Varner.
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You just bumped Nick from 5 to 4 past Alex.

Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 168
2 - Earl Strickland - 85
3 - Shane Van Boening - 81
4 - Nick Varner - 79
5 - Alex Pagulayan - 75
6 - Mike Sigel - 64
7 - Wu Chia-ching - 49
8 - Dennis Ocollo - 44
9 - Johnny Archer - 43
10 - Francisco Bustamante - 42
11 - Buddy Hall - 42

People who have already voted in the second round (total number: 11): Bob Jewett, dr_dave, Get_A_Grip, JazzyJeff87, mark187, Runnintable, Scratch85, sjm, skogstokig, TX Poolnut, West Point 1987

Thank you for participating,
Dave

PS: Remember, we're not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
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icucybe said:
Second round, Shane 3 & Alex 2
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Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 168
2 - Earl Strickland - 85
3 - Shane Van Boening - 84
4 - Nick Varner - 79
5 - Alex Pagulayan - 77
6 - Mike Sigel - 64
7 - Wu Chia-ching - 49
8 - Dennis Ocollo - 44
9 - Johnny Archer - 43
10 - Francisco Bustamante - 42
11 - Buddy Hall - 42

People who have already voted in the second round (total number: 12): Bob Jewett, dr_dave, Get_A_Grip, icucybe, JazzyJeff87, mark187, Runnintable, Scratch85, sjm, skogstokig, TX Poolnut, West Point 1987

Thank you for participating,
Dave

PS: Remember, we're not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
dr_dave said:
Note that I have not included players from the too-distant past. For example, arguments can be made that Mosconi, Greenleaf, Lassiter, Hoppe, Cranfield, Crane, DeOro, Lindrum, Caras (and others) deserve to be on the list, but I purposely excluded them since it is too difficult (or impossible) for most people to compare them to players in the modern era.
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Maybe this has been mentioned already but it isn't really a poll for the GOAT as much as for something like the GIME (greatest in the modern era), or GIRH (greatest in recent history). I understand the reasoning behind excluding early players, but I think that makes the list something other than GOAT. Nitpicking? Maybe, but then I still hate it when people call straight pool matches "races." :thumbup:
 
Dan White said:
Maybe this has been mentioned already but it isn't really a poll for the GOAT as much as for something like the GIME (greatest in the modern era), or GIRH (greatest in recent history).
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Yes. It has been mentioned several times. Again, it is not realistically possible to poll for the true GOAT since most people being polled don't know enough about players from the distant past (especially before 1970, including the early 1900's, the 1800's, the 1700's, etc.). I had to draw the line somewhere and I though 1970 was reasonable since a large percentage of people living today can judge that far back from memory, from YouTube videos, and/or from reliable and readily-available historical records.

Also, I just added this to the first post:

dr_dave said:
Note that I have not included players from the too-distant past. For example, arguments can be made that Mosconi, Greenleaf, Lassiter, Hoppe, Cranfield, Crane, DeOro, Lindrum, Caras (and others) deserve to be on the list, but I purposely excluded them since it is too difficult (or impossible) for most people to compare them to players in the modern era (since 1970). I at least give them honorable mention here. For those who object to this, wherever you see "GOAT" in this thread, read it as GIME (Greatest in the Modern Era) instead.
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Regards,
Dave
 
SamShaddey said:
Alex 3
Shane 1
Earl 1
Second round!
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You just bumped Alex from 5 to 4 ahead of Nick.

Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 168
2 - Earl Strickland - 86
3 - Shane Van Boening - 85
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 80
5 - Nick Varner - 79
6 - Mike Sigel - 64
7 - Wu Chia-ching - 49
8 - Dennis Ocollo - 44
9 - Johnny Archer - 43
10 - Francisco Bustamante - 42
11 - Buddy Hall - 42

People who have already voted in the second round (total number: 13): Bob Jewett, dr_dave, Get_A_Grip, icucybe, JazzyJeff87, mark187, Runnintable, SamShaddey, Scratch85, sjm, skogstokig, TX Poolnut, West Point 1987.

Thank you for participating,
Dave

PS: Remember, we're not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
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atlas333 said:
Earl the Pearl 3
Efren 1
Varner 1
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Here's the Current Top 10 GOAT List (see the first post for more info and voting instructions):

Rank - Name - Score

1 - Efren Reyes - 169
2 - Earl Strickland - 89
3 - Shane Van Boening - 85
4 - Alex Pagulayan - 80
5 - Nick Varner - 80
6 - Mike Sigel - 64
7 - Wu Chia-ching - 49
8 - Dennis Ocollo - 44
9 - Johnny Archer - 43
10 - Francisco Bustamante - 42
11 - Buddy Hall - 42

People who have already voted in the second round (total number: 14): atlas333, Bob Jewett, dr_dave, Get_A_Grip, icucybe, JazzyJeff87, mark187, Runnintable, SamShaddey, Scratch85, sjm, skogstokig, TX Poolnut, West Point 1987.

Thank you for participating,
Dave

PS: Remember, we're not just determining the consensus GOAT. We are also identifying the consensus Top 10 GOAT. So chose your vote points with this in mind. Voting ends on 6/30/2019, at which point the 11th spot will be dropped.
 
Very interesting thread!

I know Pagulayan is a popular player. I also know he is a great player. However, I am completely surprised by his move in this second round. He is threatening Earl and Shane for the 2nd "AZB Consensus GOAT" position! :yikes:
 
5 for Busty. If Efren didn't exist, everybody would be talking about bustamante. He's easily a Top 5 GOAT IMO.
 
For my second round vote I would like to give 25 points to Varner, 30 points to Sigel, and -50 points to Earl.

That adds up to 5, right?
 
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