That and/or credibility as the authority. How many times have you read <Judges decisions are final> stuck into the legalish?
Controversial Non-Call of WRONG-BALL-HIT-FIRST FOUL - Hanoi Open - Capito vs. Lechner Quarter Final
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In the situations i was talking about were in poolrooms where someone nearby was called over to make a call. ALL players agreed that what me(or anyone else asked) ruled was final. NEVER had any issues. Back then there was no on-line pool with its contingent of people with no lives hyper analyzing video.
.. or hyper analyzing people hyper analyzing videos!
Yes, I think this "pride factor" is the case on occasion, but not very often.
First ball contacted generates the cb path.
cb went left after contact.
This call might be intentional or, more likely the referee is a friend of the production crew and got hired on to help.
cb went left after contact.
This call might be intentional or, more likely the referee is a friend of the production crew and got hired on to help.
I am wondering why it was called a foul and appreciate you sharing the link so I can ask my Korean people what they are asking.
Dr. Dave is great, 
his T-Tubes.
his T-Tubes.
That's because a lot of league players don't fully understand tangent line directions with multiple ball contacts. Throw in the players that are non confrontational and I would bet there are few players that would call that shot anything but a simultaneous hit. That shot is something that a ref reffing a professional match should fully understand, full stop. With their ability to base their decisions on replay the refs are not making split second decisions, lets be real about this. So there is nobody wasting anyone's time here.
Agreed. Well said.
Common sense....
Agreed. To an experienced and observant pool player like yourself, the shot was an obvious foul based on how the balls moved, even without knowing all the detailed “tangent line” stuff in the video.
WPA rules have a section about protest ruling process. A player is entitled to disagree with ref's call, and there is an official procedure of how to issue a protest to TD.
Yes. But that is not what was being talked about.
sudocrushms
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This is a fantastic lesson in calling tough shots. The more i look at it the tougher it is, but it is definitely a foul. The trick is knowing how to know it was a foul.
I also appreciate you calling out that being an official is difficult. These Refs are staring at who knows how many shots all day and need to be just as focused as the players for longer (since there are far fewer Refs than players).
Last point: I like the concept of figuring out what the expected outcome is before the shot so you notice any deviation that would indicate a foul.
As always Doc, your work is appreciated.
I also appreciate you calling out that being an official is difficult. These Refs are staring at who knows how many shots all day and need to be just as focused as the players for longer (since there are far fewer Refs than players).
Last point: I like the concept of figuring out what the expected outcome is before the shot so you notice any deviation that would indicate a foul.
As always Doc, your work is appreciated.