Conventional shafts

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josie

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Does anybody know which pros are still using old school conventional solid shafts? My perception is a lot of pros are using the low deflection shafts, but that could be just because of the advertising. I was just curious of any pros still using regular shafts. I posted this in the main forum but did not get any answers.


Thanks,

Eric
 
JoeyInCali said:
Most of them I think.
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Definitely agree with Joey on this one....tho there are some top pros that use after market shafts the MAJORITY of PRO's, SHORTSTOPS, and A/A+ players all use conventional one piece shafts.

I've hit with all the predators, OB1/OB2, Tiger X etc.....all of them hit just fine, there's nothing wrong with them....BUT NOT ONE of them hits as good as most of my regular shafts on my customs from my Weinstock, Jerry R, Phillippi etc.

Hell I have a couple decade old Brunswick wrapless plane jane and the shaft is old honey yellow and hits better than all that after market stuff (just IMOP of course)

I find they lack good tone, and feel....if i had to play with them I'd do it all day, but I never bought into all that new techno shaft mumbo jumbo thank goodness.

Not to mention that all that LD, can be done the same without coring the front end or splicing your shaft.....ITS ALL IN THE TAPER BABY!!!!

modified conical tapers are my best friend :)
-Grey Ghost
 
I think alot of pros that use these shafts is because they are given to them.

Truth is if you play good you will okay good with either. Just pick one and stick to it
 
dave sutton said:
I think alot of pros that use these shafts is because they are given to them.

Truth is if you play good you will okay good with either. Just pick one and stick to it
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What Pro's have them given to them? I know of two Pro's who use them but they have to pay for them.

Dick
 
rhncue said:
What Pro's have them given to them? I know of two Pro's who use them but they have to pay for them.

Dick
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They used to aggressively chase down players and give them cues and shafts. Now I think you have to ask, but anyone who can draw their ball can get free ones from Predator. OK that's an exaggeration, but most known pros would have no problem getting them. But I also doubt that many pro baseball players are paying for gloves, bats, shoes etc...
 
Dick the list is too long to name. ESP in predators case. But I know of playeres sponsored by tiger ob1 and mezz. They were given equipment. Along with cuemaker. Some give top players cues for free to hve their names together. There has been some big controversy over the right of a player to be given a cue to play with and selling it instead of returning it when they change cues
 
dave sutton said:
I think alot of pros that use these shafts is because they are given to them.

Truth is if you play good you will okay good with either. Just pick one and stick to it
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that's about right. these days most of the 2 piece cues you can get these days are good enough to do whatever you need 'em to do.
 
Dick the list is too long to name. ESP in predators case. But I know of playeres sponsored by tiger ob1 and mezz. They were given equipment.
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agreed the list is long and you probably wouldn't want to list the ones you know here.some pros also get a bunch wholesale to sell or even free to sell.
 
True mason. I know a few that get good discounts for friends. From just about every maker. Predator being the worst. For giving away alot of product they deff don't give thier dealers much discount.
 
in my personal opinion providing sponsorship in this manner is disrespectful towards the sport. imagine federer peddling raquests. players will take what they can to support themselves which is only fair, but the companies should think twice
 
Why is that. It's buisness. I'm sure if you made equal money for us open billiards as us open tennis archer would tell scorpion to jam it up their @$$. 40k and millions is a big difference.

Also if you think RF isn't sponsored yor nuts. Ever hear of Nike... I'm sure he has a raquet sponser to. Like head
 
I have no doubt that RF has sponsorship down to the toilet tissue brand he uses :grin:
What I am in two minds about was the asking of top pro's to sell their products personally as a form of sponsorship. Money is proportionally very different in different sports, I would not assume anyone thought otherwise.
A top pro acquaintance of mine mentioned something like 1k$ every time he is shown on tv playing with a predator? Anyone heard of a scheme like this?
 
Oliver said:
I have no doubt that RF has sponsorship down to the toilet tissue brand he uses :grin:
What I am in two minds about was the asking of top pro's to sell their products personally as a form of sponsorship. Money is proportionally very different in different sports, I would not assume anyone thought otherwise.
A top pro acquaintance of mine mentioned something like 1k$ every time he is shown on tv playing with a predator? Anyone heard of a scheme like this?
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And you think the top golfers or tennis players are wearing those Nike hats because they are the most comfortable? They have the same deal, every time they are on TV with a Nike hat on they get paid. Look at John Daly, he's like a walking billboard. All those companies are paying for their logo to be on his shirt every time he's on TV. It's simple marketing practices.
 
radge69 said:
And you think the top golfers or tennis players are wearing those Nike hats because they are the most comfortable? They have the same deal, every time they are on TV with a Nike hat on they get paid. Look at John Daly, he's like a walking billboard. All those companies are paying for their logo to be on his shirt every time he's on TV. It's simple marketing practices.
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You seem to be missing my point. There is a difference between advertising and PERSONALLY SELLING a product. You can be sure that John Daly will not personally sell you a nike hat or a golf club from the trunk of his car. :wink: THAT is the difference

Anyhow - back to the real topic. Here in the UK, almost all the top pro's use an predator shaft. One exception I can think of straight off is Tony Drago who uses solid maple 3/4 shafts from Parris :)
 
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The monitary issues do not translate. I'm sure if john daly grinded out a living to make $40k a year he would sell anything he could. In golf you make damn near that much for finishing dead last.
 
dave sutton said:
The monitary issues do not translate. I'm sure if john daly grinded out a living to make $40k a year he would sell anything he could. In golf you make damn near that much for finishing dead last.
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Golf pro's, from what I've read, Are paid whether they make tv or not. They are kinda like NASCAR, in that a company's name on your bag is worth X amount, The logo on the shirt is another price, The bigger the logo, the more money. Some golfers earn up to $250k per week just for advertising. Caddies get advertising money also. I read this in one of the Golf related magazines a couple years ago. Sweet deal for the golfers
 
Oliver said:
You seem to be missing my point. There is a difference between advertising and PERSONALLY SELLING a product. You can be sure that John Daly will not personally sell you a nike hat or a golf club from the trunk of his car. :wink: THAT is the difference

Anyhow - back to the real topic. Here in the UK, almost all the top pro's use an predator shaft. One exception I can think of straight off is Tony Drago who uses solid maple 3/4 shafts from Parris :)
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Thank you for the answer. Tony Drago is the first name I have heard but what is a 3/4 shaft? The main point of my post was just out of curiosity. Does SVB or Archer use low deflection? How about Corey Duel?
I know RHN has a few top players using his cues. Do they use LD shafts or his shafts? What is anyone's best guess on the pecentage guys using conventional vs. low deflection?
 
Approx 2/3rds use solid maple shafts

josie said:
Thank you for the answer. Tony Drago is the first name I have heard but what is a 3/4 shaft? The main point of my post was just out of curiosity. Does SVB or Archer use low deflection? How about Corey Duel?
I know RHN has a few top players using his cues. Do they use LD shafts or his shafts? What is anyone's best guess on the pecentage guys using conventional vs. low deflection?
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There are several pro cue/shaft survey results threads. It's been awhile since I looked but...about 30% used some form of predator, very small numbers used other LD shafts and most used solid maple.
 
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