Cored with Phenolic Rod

dave sutton said:
im about tired of you already. post number three in this thread if the first mention about tone resonance or noise ect and it goes on from there.. NOW GO READ PAGE 1 AND ALL OF PAGE 2. YOU GENUIS

you have no clue sir. ive done my part point out a post of yours about where you know anything PEROID.

STOP WASTING OUT TIME

Sorry, Sutton, I'll leave you alone. Thanks for clearing things up.
 
I can only speak for myself but I continue to change techniques in my cues, trying to find the "it" that I am looking for. I want to make a better cue today than I made yesterday. That is my mission statement.
 
shankster8 said:
Joey, where did Manwon say phenolic will increase the sound waves coming from the maple. Please point to the post, or are you confused or trying top mislead us?

I am not Joey, but please see post #29 where this appears :

manwon said:
The reason the Phenolic Tube is filled with a wooden core is increase the Resonance of the impact from the tip on the cue ball.

Of course this is really an opinion as nothing has been measured. It is however obvious that Craig believes this cue construction technique results in a better hitting cue and others think differently. I think that you can't say there is any difference for the better or for the worse without proper measurement (whatever that may be), but then I'm a somewhat anal engineer, not a cuemaker, and not a very good pool player either :o .

Dave
 
DaveK said:
I am not Joey, but please see post #29 where this appears :



Of course this is really an opinion as nothing has been measured. It is however obvious that Craig believes this cue construction technique results in a better hitting cue and others think differently. I think that you can't say there is any difference for the better or for the worse without proper measurement (whatever that may be), but then I'm a somewhat anal engineer, not a cuemaker, and not a very good pool player either :o .

Dave


Good Morning Dave, I did make the statement (Of course this is really an opinion as nothing has been measured. It is however obvious that Craig believes this cue construction technique results in a better hitting cue and others think differently) however, it was in comparison to what a solid piece of Phenolic rod would hit like.

Have a good day Dave.
 
I have learned something from this thread regardless of all the bickering. The truth be known opinions are truly just like assholes mine included, and this is certainly OK because it is part of Human Nature to selectively listen to what you want to hear.

For those who have read this thread, I hope that whether you agree with me or not you have found something useful here. I completely believe that what I have tried to pass along is useful information that may help some one with an open mind.

I appreciate the support from the community, especially the other cue makers who have made some posts to this thread. Most understand that having a closed mind and closed eye's will not ever help us all achieve our goals.

I also appreciate the fact everyone stayed pretty civil throughout most of the exchanges concerning the pro's and con's of the technique I have spoken about. I respect everyone for their opinion whether it is with me or against what I believe in, because right or wrong we all stuck to our Guns and never faltered.

The only person what I said above doesn't apply to is Cue Maker Eric Crisp from Sugar Tree Custom Cues. Eric is the only one who resorted to name calling throughout this thread. Eric is the type of person who believes he is above the Board on this forum and that frankly his shit don't stink. He loves to tell others that this that and the other is not possible because, he doesn't understand it, because it did not work for him personally, and because he is a very narrow and closed minded individual. Eric started much of the controversy in this thread, and ran and hide in the back ground to see what would happen. Well Eric who is the no body now, who needs to get a life, who is ignorant, you certainly screwed up this time, I don't run and hide.:groucho:

Have a nice day everyone and that includes Mr. Eric Crisp
 
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ratcues said:
I can only speak for myself but I continue to change techniques in my cues, trying to find the "it" that I am looking for. I want to make a better cue today than I made yesterday. That is my mission statement.


I want to make a better cue today than I made yesterday. That is my mission statement.[/QUOTE]

Ryan, this should be everyones mission statement!!!!!!!
 
Okay, you got me,
quote"
To make a better cue today than you did yesterday. end quote"

The first thing that popped in my head was,
what did you make yesterday, and Did you sell it?

Maybe a little change of those words would be better. Especially to a potential customer, who might be waiting for y'all to yell.
I GOT IT, :D

Couldn't resist, very sorry, Please forgive me.
 
Michael Webb said:
Respectfully to all, show me a group where each have an individual opinion and you get a whole lot of ways to get something done.
There is some good debating here, no matter whether you try it or not, if you understand the pro's and cons, Good knowledge.
Mike,
Would you make your cues as discussed in this thread ?
Glen
 
nasc said:
Mike,
Would you make your cues as discussed in this thread ?
Glen


Ya know the best part of a forum is, you can ask whatever question you want. I presume, you know the second sentence that goes with the first part is, correct.
 
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Michael Webb said:
Ya know the best part of a forum is, you can ask whatever question you want. I presume, you know the second sentence that goes with the first part is correct.
You did say experiment, Didn't you?
This my friend is what Cue making is all about. I do have a question though?
If you use a solid phenolic plug with the exception of the bolt going through it, Do you think it will change the feedback into the handle, where it's a plug of phenolic and not part of the wood from the forearm or the handle?
Do more parts equal less feedback or less parts equal a more natural feedback and it's also easier to trouble shoot if something should go wrong?

Is more less?
Or is less, more?
The sky is blue.
 
manwon said:
Joey are you back to protect wood under a Blue Sky!!!!!:D
Sure.
More power to you in making all of your cues with phenolic tube inside.
When Mike Webb and Bill Webb start making em that way, congrats to you.
My bad for trying to talk you out of it.
 
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Michael Webb said:
Okay, you got me,
quote"
To make a better cue today than you did yesterday. end quote"

The first thing that popped in my head was,
what did you make yesterday, and Did you sell it?

Maybe a little change of those words would be better. Especially to a potential customer, who might be waiting for y'all to yell.
I GOT IT, :D

Couldn't resist, very sorry, Please forgive me.

With all due respect, I'll stick to my original statement. :cool: There will never be an "I got it" moment. The day I think I have every aspect of cue making figured out, I'll quit. I want to learn something new and improve myself every day. I always want to go forward. Even if I try something that doesn't work, I do not feel that I failed but that I learned that it didn't work.
 
ratcues said:
With all due respect, I'll stick to my original statement. :cool: There will never be an "I got it" moment. The day I think I have every aspect of cue making figured out, I'll quit. I want to learn something new and improve myself every day. I always want to go forward. Even if I try something that doesn't work, I do not feel that I failed but that I learned that it didn't work.


We all push for the same goals. Knowledge and quality.
 
JoeyInCali said:
Sure.
More power to you in making all of your cues with phenolic tube inside.
When Mike Webb and Bill Webb start making em that way, congrats to you.
My bad for trying to talk you out of it.

Accept don't condemn. I try to understand a lot of different methods that I see in cues. Out of respect for the people who use, and don't use certain techniques. I have total respect for what I build and what I repair and I am loyal to the other makers that have made them. I don't need to question them here on this forum.
 
JoeyInCali said:
You did say experiment, Didn't you?

QUOTE]

No but, The second sentence that follows the first is,
Not every question deserves an answer.
Rules of any forum,
Your thread, deserves an answer.
Not your thread, answer is optional.
 
Kiss and make up.........

For what it's worth, I believe, MEZZ has been building their cues with a carbon fiber tube or rod (not sure which) the entire length of the cue...from tip to bumper and they do sell a lot of them.



<~~~no fondling when kissing either...........
 
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