Corey Deuel Battles To Get On Snooker Tour

Good luck to Corey. While I doubt he'll ever make the pro-snooker ranks, I'd expect his 10 foot table game to reach new heights if he puts a lot of work in on the snooker table.

I recall Alex Pagulayan dominating the field recently after playing Chinese 8 Ball on the tight tables.
 
Corey is the perfect candidate to give Snooker a new beginning in the U.S.A.
He has my Best Wishes for Success.
 
Bob Jewett said:
The year he won the US National Championship he kept surprising his opponents by rarely playing the shot they would have played especially in complicated situations. I remember one three-cushion bank of the black on a crowded table that may never have been tried before at snooker. He made it.
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Got a link to that shot and/or match?
 
Bob Jewett said:
The year he won the US National Championship he kept surprising his opponents by rarely playing the shot they would have played especially in complicated situations. I remember one three-cushion bank of the black on a crowded table that may never have been tried before at snooker. He made it.
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Was it like this?

http://www.fcsnooker.co.uk/images/coaching/advanced/doubles/cocked_hat_double.jpg

This would be fine if he was on the last black, and got a good cue ball, but you say the table was crowded? If he was playing the black off three cushions (this or any other way) and getting position on a red, I don't even have to see the shot to say it was the wrong choice, whether it went in or not. The only time this would ever be a reasonable shot would be if he was on a colour and there was absolutely no safe place on the table, which is very rare.
 
IIRC, your recall is a little off. Alex did not play in the January Chinese 8-ball tournament, as he was busy dominating the DCC in S. IN. Earl played in the 8-ball, but didn't fare too well.

Colin Colenso said:
I recall Alex Pagulayan dominating the field recently after playing Chinese 8 Ball on the tight tables.
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trob said:
Maybe because he's a pro player who enjoys the challenge and what he may learn from it. You never played in a tournament you had little to no chance of winning but played anyway for the experience?
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sounds about right
 
Scott Lee said:
IIRC, your recall is a little off. Alex did not play in the January Chinese 8-ball tournament, as he was busy dominating the DCC in S. IN. Earl played in the 8-ball, but didn't fare too well.
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There were 2 Chinese events almost back to back, he played in the first and was quite competitive.

Here he is playing Karl Boyes in one of his matches: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_gk3fxnLuI

Keep pendulum stroking Scott. LOL
 
DangerousDave said:
Was it like this?

http://www.fcsnooker.co.uk/images/coaching/advanced/doubles/cocked_hat_double.jpg

This would be fine if he was on the last black, and got a good cue ball, but you say the table was crowded? If he was playing the black off three cushions (this or any other way) and getting position on a red, I don't even have to see the shot to say it was the wrong choice, whether it went in or not. The only time this would ever be a reasonable shot would be if he was on a colour and there was absolutely no safe place on the table, which is very rare.
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No, the black was somewhere near the blue spot and he played it three cushions to a corner pocket by the standard corner-5 pattern. The main point seemed to be to get the cueball relatively safe as there was no real good shot on a color and no real good safe on all the reds. As I recall, he left only hard shots on reds but he was 7 points to the good.
 
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I rarely watch Streamed Match's, as there is nothing quite like "being there".
However, I would not only watch Corey playing a Streamed Snooker Match,
I would Pay to watch if it was too far to drive there.
 
It's an effort in futility if he expects to earn a card and begin a successful pro snooker career. If he expects to challenge himself, learn, enhance his existing skill set, and become a better overall more well rounded player then I expect it will be a success.
 
Bob Jewett said:
No, the black was somewhere near the blue spot and he played it three cushions to a corner pocket by the standard corner-5 pattern. The main point seemed to be to get the cueball relatively safe as there was no real good shot on a color and no real good safe on all the reds. As I recall, he left only hard shots on reds but he we 7 points to the good.
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Interesting shot! Would be nice to see the layout of the table to see all of his options. I thought it could just have been a case of Corey taking an opponent lightly; obviously he's too smart to be shooting such low-percentage shots as I described when he's giving it 100%. Thanks for the clarification. I guess there's no video from the US Championship?

I'm just waiting for the moment where Corey reveals to the snooker world the hidden dead ball from the opening break, and the BBC add B&R percentage to their substantial list of snooker stats. If he breaks snooker like he broke 9 ball we are sending him back.
 
We can go back and forth on this until the Cows come home.
Fact is : Corey Deuel possesses (and displays) a wealth of
knowledge and talent in every Cue Sport he has endeavored
to conquer. With only a few weeks of practice, he annihilated
the Field in last year's U.S. Championship. That speaks volumes
about a young man who has no fear of anyone in the arena.
Why is it so difficult to admit that he actually might succeed in
crossing over to the World of European Snooker ?
 
Str8PoolPlayer said:
We can go back and forth on this until the Cows come home.
Fact is : Corey Deuel possesses (and displays) a wealth of
knowledge and talent in every Cue Sport he has endeavored
to conquer. With only a few weeks of practice, he annihilated
the Field in last year's U.S. Championship. That speaks volumes
about a young man who has no fear of anyone in the arena.
Why is it so difficult to admit that he actually might succeed in
crossing over to the World of European Snooker ?
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Jesus, didn't we go through this all last time? I'm sure there's an 8 year old Latvian he could have a good go at.
 
Albatross Cues said:
He sees that this is one way to make cue sports pay out. I would bet you will see more and more snooker here in the U.S. over the next few years. With the amounts they are paying out,the only question would be...why would one not try?

Also, what a way to grow as a player, he will come back with an accent and a skill set better then most in the country. I say go for it. I know I'm ready for more 12 foot tables here in America.

Aloha
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While I applaud his action and agree it will make him better, I don't think this means we'll be carving out ESPN time showing snooker events in the US. Nor do I think the money will make a crossing.

There certainly is money in snooker, but not in the US. We don't have the interest and I don't envision players leaving EU to come here for an even that wouldn't be televised here and way to late there if live.

Math just doesn't work.
 
I am surprised more top pros do not attempt to get a Snooker card, or whatever they call it. It opens up a whole new field of employment and income.

Apparently Corey failed a prior attempt, which puts him in league with hundreds of first rate golfers who have failed golf's q school. Those guys come back year after year, because the prize if they succeed is a chance at a portion of a very large pot of winnings, if only they can play well enough to earn their tour card, then earn the money and stay on the tour year after year.

The winnings available at the current US pool 'tour', and I use the term advisedly, are minimal. We all know the money in pool is pitiful, why not encourage more pros to go where the money is.

I don't love watching some guy run 9 balls in a row so much that I would wish him to have to live on the generosity of others rather than on his own earnings.

I applaud and support Corey, and any other US pro who tries to advance their career in any way they choose. I like snooker, I think I understand it, and a big run of 147 is much more thrilling to watch than some guy making 7, 8, or 9 balls in rotation after the break.

If Corey makes it I will be looking to root for him at every event.
 
DangerousDave said:
Interesting shot! Would be nice to see the layout of the table to see all of his options. I thought it could just have been a case of Corey taking an opponent lightly; obviously he's too smart to be shooting such low-percentage shots as I described when he's giving it 100%. Thanks for the clarification. I guess there's no video from the US Championship?
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Some of the matches that year were streamed but I don't know if there was a recording.
 
TCo said:
While I applaud his action and agree it will make him better, I don't think this means we'll be carving out ESPN time showing snooker events in the US. Nor do I think the money will make a crossing.

There certainly is money in snooker, but not in the US. We don't have the interest and I don't envision players leaving EU to come here for an even that wouldn't be televised here and way to late there if live.

Math just doesn't work.
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True the math may not work this year, but it doesn't mean the American pool player is incapable of performing well in snooker... All we need is just one good Ronnie to light the snooker fires in America. Eventually there will be more, then maybet hey will think of holding an event on American soil. First we must prove ourselves worthy, and I commend Corey for giving it a go. All this talk of saving cue sports, and all we gotta do is get a bigger table and add some reds.

The vernacular will come with time I'm sure, as in an American pool room "potting" means something completely different.

Aloha
 
Texdance said:
I like snooker, I think I understand it, and a big run of 147 is much more thrilling to watch than some guy making 7, 8, or 9 balls in rotation after the .
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I was raised on snooker, mostly, but I like the purity of straight pool.
When you run 73 at snooker, your opponent needs snookers...at 80, you're safe.
The rest are kinda vanity points.

If you're playing to 150 at straight pool....if you run 149....you can still lose.

Three cushion billiards is like straight pool....you're never safe till you cross the line.
 
The players go to Australia and China. True, some of the top ranked players pick and choose which of the "minor" events they attend but plenty still go. And North America is easier to travel to - and language and visas aren't an issue like in China. Canada is more likely than US as there is a stronger snooker tradition there but you never know with Barry Hearn - he does embrace the element of risk. We're talking several years down the line but it all starts with players like Corey Deuel and Alex Pagulayan having a go at it, regardless of whether they succeed or fail
 
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