Just saw on FB Corey just put a 9 pk 8 ball on Billy Thorpe wining 15 -1 plays Shane tomorrow in the hot seat match
You go Corey
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You go Corey
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Corey Puts a 9 pk
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Pretty sporty. Was that on a 7ft or 9 ft?
Corey uses a second ball break for 8-ball and there are almost always 1 or most clusters. But Corey has the skill to manuever through the rack and still get out. In fact, I'm always amazed that he prefers that break with all of those clusters he gets.
However, I know that some players that are good at breaking out clusters use this break thinking that they can still get out where their opponents may not.
Even more so impressive on a 7 footer.
You so funny!!
Clueless. Must be nice
You're more than free to get you some anytime.
Jason
Keep dreaming about your little barbox being harder than a 9'
For top players, 8-Ball produces similar statistics on 7-footers and 9-footers if the rules and tables (other than their size) are similar. Here's a comparison from a couple years ago: http://forums.azbilliards.com/showpost.php?p=5255675&postcount=3.
When 8-Ball is played with a racking template, an open table after the break, and breaking from anywhere behind the head string, it is simply too easy for elite players on either sized table.
Changing to taking the group you make more of on the break toughens the game a bit. Accu-Stats did that in their most recent 8-Ball Make-It-Happen event. Darren Appleton's World Pool Series also used that rule plus a few additional steps to make the game harder, including the use of a triangle rack and the requirement to break from outside a wide central box behind the head string and hit the head ball first.
I propose that the two permitted areas be called "side boxes" if they don't already have a name.
Yeah, Charlie. Learn how to play bro.
Let me guess... you play on a BB. Simply put nice idea but the traffic argument doesn't play. Simple shape on a table that is easier to make balls on equals easier game. Period.
The honest answer is that a big track player can always downsize to smaller field. The reverse is not the case.
Anything else is just not honest.
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8-Ball on a bar table is getting to look almost ridiculously easy for really good players. It can't be just using rack templates as the second link below they are using a plastic rack. I think the use of Diamond 7' tables has a lot to do with it as pros can now play in multiple tournaments on consistent tables with rails and pockets setup the same way as the the 9' tables they play on in other big events. But it also has to be a question of them focusing their skills on where the money is, just like with the rise of Chinese 8 Ball on the international scene.
For example see this Shane Van Boening vs Josh Roberts match from 2016: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAYDqD25GgU
They are using the Magic Rack and playing BCA rules (rack yourself, call pocket, open table, alternating break, no restrictions on break position) Every single game out of the 15 played was a break and run except the one game where Roberts makes 4 balls but scratched on the break. Even if he hadn't scratched and run that rack out he could have easily ended up losing 9-8 just because he lost the lag given the quality of play from Van Boening.
I noted in that match that Roberts was using a classic alternating rack pattern (One stripe behind the solid head ball, two stripes on the bottom row, the rest alternating) whereas Van Boening was putting 4 solids on the fourth row and 4 stripes on the 5th row every time. Most of their spreads looked similar but there were one or two of Van Boening's with big ugly clusters from that 4/5th row set in the rack area.
It may be just me but when he is running out his 9th rack on the hill Van Boening looked like maybe the pressure of this achievement was getting to him just a bit. His stroke started to look just a little glitch towards the end of his run, although he still got out of course.
There's also this race to 30 with Earl Strickland where with the score tied at 22-22 Van Boening runs an 8 and out. I love how Strickland starts checked the racks Van Boening is giving himself, but note Van Boening also did this in his match with Roberts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dee4fgxEC68
It seems figuring out the break is the most critical part of their game (Jay Helfert comments on this) and on a bar table the rest is just cake for them. Given they are checking each others racks it seems even the masters are eager to learn a trick or two from their opponent if they can.
For example see this Shane Van Boening vs Josh Roberts match from 2016: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAYDqD25GgU
They are using the Magic Rack and playing BCA rules (rack yourself, call pocket, open table, alternating break, no restrictions on break position) Every single game out of the 15 played was a break and run except the one game where Roberts makes 4 balls but scratched on the break. Even if he hadn't scratched and run that rack out he could have easily ended up losing 9-8 just because he lost the lag given the quality of play from Van Boening.
I noted in that match that Roberts was using a classic alternating rack pattern (One stripe behind the solid head ball, two stripes on the bottom row, the rest alternating) whereas Van Boening was putting 4 solids on the fourth row and 4 stripes on the 5th row every time. Most of their spreads looked similar but there were one or two of Van Boening's with big ugly clusters from that 4/5th row set in the rack area.
It may be just me but when he is running out his 9th rack on the hill Van Boening looked like maybe the pressure of this achievement was getting to him just a bit. His stroke started to look just a little glitch towards the end of his run, although he still got out of course.
There's also this race to 30 with Earl Strickland where with the score tied at 22-22 Van Boening runs an 8 and out. I love how Strickland starts checked the racks Van Boening is giving himself, but note Van Boening also did this in his match with Roberts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dee4fgxEC68
It seems figuring out the break is the most critical part of their game (Jay Helfert comments on this) and on a bar table the rest is just cake for them. Given they are checking each others racks it seems even the masters are eager to learn a trick or two from their opponent if they can.
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I've seen D players run 8-ball racks on barboxes.
Same players wouldn't beat the 3-ball ghost on a big table.
Please.
You can't run a rack from the break if you don't make a ball on the break.
Making a ball on the break on a big table is a LOT harder than making a ball on a bar box.
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How many nine packs have you seen on a 9 or 10 footer?
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