Corey Puts a 9 pk

I pay attention. On another thread someone said you play well, but it still doesn't make you right. Congestion is certainly a huge factor. Nobody will ever run 300 on a bar table. Why?
 
Lots of people can play. I stand by it. I'm a nobody but you're not walking over me. Win or lose
 
Lots of people can play
I seen somw guy i never heard of running out one handed on a big table giving jimmy mataya a whoopin
 
Corey is so talented and pool smart it is unreal. People count him out alot but he is capable of winning at any given time if he is hungry to do so.
 
Bar box 8 harder than 8 ball on 9 footer. Every other game hater on big table imo

I totally agree with you. I've been gambling playing eight ball on the both tables for over over sixty years and know the difference. Putting the real top players aside, guys that can run out on any table, The small table on the long run is harder for most.

Whenever I had to play a real top player I always choose the 7 footer. I have beaten many top players and some pros playing eight ball on the bar box, players that I would have little chance against on the big track.
Why? Because it's harder for them to run racks. Maybe I didn't have all the skills they had but I had enough skills to win when I got my turn at the table.
 
Plus this was take what you make which made it triple tough. Didn't people like little joe bust pros on bb?
 
I pay attention. On another thread someone said you play well, but it still doesn't make you right. Congestion is certainly a huge factor. Nobody will ever run 300 on a bar table. Why?

Because nobody would try lol.

Its easier for me on a BB because I dont play 8 ball often and the clusters arent the problem(for me) its the weird patterns I play. Its easier to make balls on a BB when you get out of line :)

In other news Sam Grizzle of punching Phil Helmuth fame knocked me out of the Colossus event(WSOP) by hitting a 3 outter on the river - we were all in preflop. Been a long day, going to bed.
Jason
 
I'm not much of a card player but that sucks going out that way��. I enjoy healthy debate, but more important to me to make Pool fanatic friends instead of clashing with people. May the rolls go your way
 
... Nobody will ever run 300 on a bar table. Why?

If top pros actually played 14.1 on 7-footers, I imagine we'd see some real high runs.

Here's what John Schmidt said on AzB about eight years ago about 14.1 and table size:

"for the record i think 14.1 on the bartable is easier than 9ft.

you can reach allbreakballs,combos and shots are a joke etc.

yes its more confined space but with the cueball control ive learned from 14.1 thats the last thing im worried about.

for the record the easiest table to play 14.1 is a 4x8 .ive played on them all and its the easiest no doubt. enough room to play but still easier on shotmaking,reaching,combos than 9ft."
 
... Congestion is certainly a huge factor. Nobody will ever run 300 on a bar table. Why?
The only two times I saw John Schmidt practice straight pool on a bar table (at the BCA Expo) he ran 180 within three tries each time. I would not bet against 300 within a week.
 
I don't agree with this statement at all. Personally, I find 8-ball harder on the box and I can get out sometimes. For example, I was recently out of town for a week and split 1st place in a 9ft table tournament with Shane Mcminn, and beat John Gabriel on my way to the hot seat before that. I'm not great and I did get lucky to get by John, but I can get out a little on the 9 footer.

In the same breath, I'm a horrible straight pool player and unlike most people nowadays, I started out on 9 and 10 footers. I didn't start playing on the box until later and I only do so now when I have to. I actually learned to play 9 and 8-ball on a 10 ft snooker table. I definitely feel more confident playing any game on a bigger table.

I can see how even a decent straight pool player would say it's easier though, simply due to the skills required to put up good runs in 14.1

I dunno. For sure though, I wouldn't just jump out there and say that the people who disagree with you are just bad players who can't run out.

By reading this, I would come to the conclusion that you do not play very well. Just doesn't make any sense, was the tournament handicapped? Just sounds like the typical banger and the some days I'm on bs we hear from them - knowing they can't play as soon as they say that.

You've got me confused for sure. Lol

Anyway, congrats on the tourney
Jason
 
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"For most pro players it is more difficult to BNR eight ball on a bar table" - SVB

Well of course. But this is in no small part down to the way the pros approach the game. A BNR is easier on a bar box than on a 9 ft all other things being equal. Anyway, a 9 pack is an outlier so it means very little other than Corey made a 9 pack and most players wouldn't with the same roll of the balls.
 
Here is some of my feelings about 7-footers.
...in the 60s, Jimmy Moore told me a guy ran 22 racks on him at $2 a game.
...Bobby Leggs ran 21 racks in the 70s....for a lot more dough.
...first time I saw Shane playing on a Valley 7-footer, he was playing a set with Joiner
at QMasters in '06....he ran an 11-pack to finish the set.

I haven't heard of these things being done on a 9-footer...competively.

On the other hand, I was having breakfast every morning at a place in Memphis...'85...
....they had a 3x6 Valley there....I tried probably 15 times to break and run at 8-ball....
...never did it once....WAY too congested.

I've gambled a lot on over-size 8-foot Gold Crowns...with 5 inch pockets...
...those were the easiest tables for me to run racks at 8 or 9 ball.

I think Diamond 7-footers might change these stats....I've not much experience on them.
 
Let me guess... you play on a BB. Simply put nice idea but the traffic argument doesn't play. Simple shape on a table that is easier to make balls on equals easier game. Period.

Nick you obviously ASSUME you knew who Frank is, but in his day, the 9 footer....he was very comfortable on, and could handle most all top pros with the wild 8/roll out 9 ball. I did something two weeks ago I've never done, and I think it was a little luck, but waaaaaaaay more difficult. I played 6....8 ball matches/alternate break on diamond bar tables races to 4. With the alternate break I LUCKILY ;) won 24 straight games='s 6 matches 4-0. Alternate break, that's not easy. Then I ran outta steam from the losers side in the finals. Got 2nd again, buy hey, I'm finally getting things figured out, as Frank knows all to well I can do. I almost thought it was age, but after two years of this and that I figured out, with the 15 year layoff what was needed to fix things.
A 9 pack, take what ya make, is pretty sporty.

I felt winning 24-0 in 6 matches, with me only breaking 12 times BCA rules was impossible.
 
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It was a 4-12 rated tournament, race to your rating. They put me in as an 8. You can conclude whatever you like :), but the only way to get the hot seat in a format like that is by running out. Ergo, your statement is false. That was my only point. I wasn't trying to say anything about how well I do or don't play.

All good, and congrats again
Jason
 
I have all the respect in the world for you, but it was John Schmidt lol. Also I play in area that has horrible slow and dirty conditions so everything tends to stick together so not too many people are going to run big packs around here
 
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