Coronavirus and BCA Pool League World Championships

By the way, I highly recommend that we all make sure we have a good working thermometer at home. My wife has a cold and I found my other thermometers were dead. I just picked up a CVS forehead thermometer and it's very quick and accurate. If anybody has a fever and can't immediately get tested, best to self-quarantine.

Besides the government test kits, which are becoming available, Labcorp just came up with their own test and it should be available soon. Like I said before, even if you get it statistically the odds of surviving are greatly in your favor if you're healthy. The disease is especially dangerous to older people who already have other serious health issues.
 
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...you can't cancel, welch on a bet just because you don't like the odds,
this ain't some spa cruise trip to a fantasy island,
this is gambling that you're better, got the stuff to win.
 
Dan_B said:
...you can't cancel, welch on a bet just because you don't like the odds,
this ain't some spa cruise trip to a fantasy island,
this is gambling that you're better, got the stuff to win.
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Beyond absurd.

And the reason is that if you get infected and do fine, you can still transmit and infect your wife, kids, parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, in-laws, friends, and complete strangers. And odds are that some of them will not do fine and may even die.

No one has the right to make that “bet.”

Lou Figueroa
 
I'm worried about the Expo too.
If these events were in Italy they would already be cancelled.
 
I have not been super in-tune with the corona virus timeline.... but was it still only in the PROC when the DCC happened? DCC had record or near record attendence this year, correct?
 
lfigueroa said:
Beyond absurd.

And the reason is that if you get infected and do fine, you can still transmit and infect your wife, kids, parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, in-laws, friends, and complete strangers. And odds are that some of them will not do fine and may even die.

No one has the right to make that “bet.”

Lou Figueroa
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No way is it absurd, you can't pull a bet because of what ever,
fill-in the blank _________ .

If your wife, kids, parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, in-laws,
friends, and complete strangers are concern they'll, I'm certain, instruct you where to
park it for 14 days, pack a lunch and get use to the Hallmark Channel on your victorious return.


oh! Best tell them where you stashed the coin...
 
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lfigueroa said:
Beyond absurd.

And the reason is that if you get infected and do fine, you can still transmit and infect your wife, kids, parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, in-laws, friends, and complete strangers. And odds are that some of them will not do fine and may even die.

No one has the right to make that “bet.”

Lou Figueroa
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Lou,

Are you saying BCA should cancel? Or are you saying the BCA players should cancel because they might get sick? My opinion is that the event should be held and if individuals are apprehensive or at risk, cancel. No sense in participating if you will be apprehensive.

Bear in mind, there are thousands of people with non-refundable air tickets, hotel deposits, vacation time off work scheduled. There are millions of people traveling through Las Vegas at any time and only 2 confirmed cases in all of Nevada. Airlines are not giving blanket waivers or refunds. You can get this virus anywhere, anytime, in the store or at work, in a restaurant, at church, kissing your grandma, touching the hundreds of things we touch daily, giving a friend a ride - not just on trips.

I could see it if it were more widespread - then we are all screwed everywhere we go and have to bet on our immune systems and health care.
 
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TATE said:
Lou,

Are you saying BCA should cancel? Or are you saying the BCA players should cancel because they might get sick? My opinion is that the event should be held and if individuals are apprehensive or at risk, cancel. No sense in participating if you will be apprehensive.

Bear in mind, there are thousands of people with non-refundable air tickets, hotel deposits, vacation time off work scheduled. There are millions of people traveling through Las Vegas at any time and only 2 confirmed cases in all of Nevada. Airlines are not giving blanket waivers or refunds. You can get this virus anywhere, anytime, in the store or at work, in a restaurant, at church, kissing your grandma, touching the hundreds of things we touch daily, giving a friend a ride - not just on trips.

I could see it if it were more widespread - then we are all screwed everywhere we go and have to bet on our immune systems and health care.
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TATE,
the virus is more widespread than we know
enough tests have just not been done
and there are sick people that have not been counted
symptoms can take ~2-14 days to show
and because symptoms resemble the flu
many could have corona and not know it
thankfully, most are recovering from the virus
but transmitting it is the issue here
the fact is, nobody knows how bad this thing is going to get
but if we put ourselves, and others, at risk
this thing will undoubtedly be worse than it has to be

my thinking
do what you got to do
but if you don't got to do it
why tempt fate?

health is literally wealth
as an example, and to anyone curious
I recommend this article:
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/what...ne-scott/?trackingId=ONw50YWSRcChueSRiTlLnQ==
 
I can't believe the fear and hysteria I'm seeing. And the hypocrisy.

Here in America, your odds of contracting Covid 19 and dying from it are in the millions to one. 42+ million people visit Las Vegas each year but only 1 confirmed case in Clark County.

About 40% of us will be contracting cancer in our lifetime and the odds of dying from it are about 1 in 5.

60% of us will contract heart disease, and the odds of dying from it are about 1 in 7.

Yet people still smoke and drink. They don't do their annual check up and don't exercise. They don't check their blood pressure or get their labs done. They ignore that ache in their chest when they exert themselves and don't stay home when they're sick. They don't do anything about that sore on their leg. They don't eat properly, don't get their vaccines, their annual flu shot, shingles vaccinations or one of two pneumonia shots readily available. They speed and tailgate.

Yet they're afraid of the coronavirus. They go to Costco to buy water, toilet paper and hand sanitizer in some bizarre, senseless ritual.

Covid-19 is the boogieman when real monsters are standing right in front of you just waiting to pounce.
 
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I can't believe the fear and hysteria I'm seeing. And the hypocrisy.

Here in America, your odds of contracting Covid 19 and dying from it are in the millions to one. 42+ million people visit Las Vegas each year but only 1 confirmed case in Clark County.

About 40% of us will be contracting cancer in our lifetime and the odds of dying from it are about 1 in 5.

60% of us will contract heart disease, and the odds of dying from it are about 1 in 7.

Yet people still smoke and drink. They don't do their annual check up and don't exercise. They don't check their blood pressure or get their labs done. They ignore that ache in their chest when they exert themselves and don't stay home when they're sick. They don't do anything about that sore on their leg. They don't eat properly, don't get their vaccines, their annual flu shot, shingles vaccinations or one of two pneumonia shots readily available. They speed and tailgate.

Yet they're afraid of the coronavirus. They go to Costco to buy water, toilet paper and hand sanitizer in some bizarre, senseless ritual.

Covid-19 is the boogieman when real monsters are standing right in front of you just waiting to pounce.
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equating corona and cancer results is a false dichotomy
of course we could all take better care of ourselves
so we should ignore a pandemic?
people are scared because collectively, we could know more about this thing
the facts are:
it's real
it's spreading
it's deadly
and there's no vaccine

we do know that besides acting in a generally healthy way
if we wash our hands, and avoid large groups of people
this thing won't be as bad
we know that. there's evidence.
(which I posted a link to)

it might not be the plague
but if we don't want it to get worse
what's wrong with playing it safe?
if not for you, be careful for those you care about
even strangers
that might be susceptible
maybe not where you're at
but here in the seattle-area, people are sick and dying

corona isn't a boogieman, it's a virus
there's nothing wrong with respecting reality.
 
Dan_B said:
No way is it absurd, you can't pull a bet because of what ever,
fill-in the blank _________ .

If your wife, kids, parents, grandparents, aunts, uncles, nieces, nephews, in-laws,
friends, and complete strangers are concern they'll, I'm certain, instruct you where to
park it for 14 days, pack a lunch and get use to the Hallmark Channel on your victorious return.


oh! Best tell them where you stashed the coin...
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I believe it is incumbent on all of us to be good, responsible citizens.

Lou Figueroa
 
TATE said:
Lou,

Are you saying BCA should cancel? Or are you saying the BCA players should cancel because they might get sick? My opinion is that the event should be held and if individuals are apprehensive or at risk, cancel. No sense in participating if you will be apprehensive.

Bear in mind, there are thousands of people with non-refundable air tickets, hotel deposits, vacation time off work scheduled. There are millions of people traveling through Las Vegas at any time and only 2 confirmed cases in all of Nevada. Airlines are not giving blanket waivers or refunds. You can get this virus anywhere, anytime, in the store or at work, in a restaurant, at church, kissing your grandma, touching the hundreds of things we touch daily, giving a friend a ride - not just on trips.

I could see it if it were more widespread - then we are all screwed everywhere we go and have to bet on our immune systems and health care.
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Tate, I recently read the government has locked down the entire country of Italy.

Israel is saying anyone entering the country will be immediately quarantined for 14 days. The mayor of NYC is considering locking down all five boroughs. So what I’m saying is that organizations should act prudently and postpone or cancel events that will be attended by many people. And that’s because the virus is still spreading and it hasn’t overwhelmed us yet like Italy. One infected person can infect 100. Post event those 100 will return to their homes and jobs all over the country. You do the math.

So if the BCA doesn’t cancel then it’s up to the individual players to decide what the smart move is.

Lou Figueroa
 
I’m no expert (and I might be the first person on the internet to admit that) but everything I read says the most important thing organizations and governments can do right now is to cancel large gatherings of people. Here’s an example. It’s easy to find long lists of cancelled events. I hope this event is early enough in the outbreak that it won’t make things that much worse. I also hope CSI doesn’t turn out to be the mayor in Jaws. I’m just glad I wasn’t going this year anyway.
 
NC is now under a state of emergency due to several people from the same area that tested positive for COV-19.

It's probably to protect buyers from price gouging as they have not canceled the ACC Tournament.....yet.

Going to hold my fingers for the NCAA
 
I applaud efforts to contain the disease. We need to do that. We need to quarantine the sick. We need testing.

But we do not need to panic. Let's consider the facts. Here is the status of the known active cases in the USA as of today. There were 28 deaths from previous cases. Looks like the death rate is declining as health care workers know what they are dealing with better. Only 8 of 831 active cases are critical. 823 are in mild condition.

We are suffering economic fallout. There are going to be a lot of lost jobs and bankruptcies sooner rather than later. The summer Olympics are in Tokyo - will they be canceled? Should BCA be canceled? Should we cancel all NBA basketball games, the NCAA playoffs, Major League Baseball? Should all sporting events be canceled? Should all offices be closed and the most infectious of all, schools?

Let's keep our cools and live our day to day lives, but carefully.
 

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Here's my take. I travel twice a month for work throughout the Western US and recently cancelled a trip to Seattle due to the recent outbreak in Washington. I'm not overly concerned about my safety as it relates to COVID-19. I'm in my late 40's and in good health so the odds are in my favor I won't end up in critical care and/or dead. My biggest concern is being infected and passing it along to those in my life that are older and in not so good of health. I'd be devastated if I passed it along to a loved one and something serious happened to them. For this reason, I think it is better to take precaution and play it safe.
 
TATE said:
I applaud efforts to contain the disease. We need to do that. We need to quarantine the sick. We need testing.

But we do not need to panic. Let's consider the facts. Here is the status of the known active cases in the USA as of today. There were 28 deaths from previous cases. Looks like the death rate is declining as health care workers know what they are dealing with better. Only 8 of 831 active cases are critical. 823 are in mild condition.

We are suffering economic fallout. There are going to be a lot of lost jobs and bankruptcies sooner rather than later. The summer Olympics are in Tokyo - will they be canceled? Should BCA be canceled? Should we cancel all NBA basketball games, the NCAA playoffs, Major League Baseball? Should all sporting events be canceled? Should all offices be closed and the most infectious of all, schools?

Let's keep our cools and live our day to day lives, but carefully.
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Out of the ~4500 people that were tested.

Think about how many might have it right now and is not showing any symptoms? Reportedly people won't even be tested unless they are in serious condition, and guess what, pneumonia is not considered a serious condition. I have personal account of people who have been having fevers for 2+ weeks and was denied testing because CDC don't consider them to be in serious conditions.

Looking at the actual positive cases don't offer any clue as to how many has been infected or can carry the virus. Don't believe the stats because they can easily be manipulated.
 
Cuomo just deployed the National Guard

To enforce and assist in the 'self quarantine' of 1000 people 7 miles from my NY home. I think he is doing the right thing and some people want him to stop all movement in or out of the area, close stores etc.

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/cuomo-sends-in-the-national-guard/

The first case in Missouri the family was supposed to self quarantine but the old man went to a dance with his daughter-possibly from another marraige -Then another guy somewhere else who was supposed to SQ went to a 'mixer' for health workers. Self Quarantine is no quarantine without enforcement
 
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