I believe the See System was based on shadows. The author still has a website. Darren Appleton used to endorse it.I heard a player mention it but was unable to ask him about it
It's using the shadows under the OB (made by the table's lights) as "references", like using the lights reflected on the OB's surface the same way.I heard a player mention it but was unable to ask him about it
Yup. I wonder how those systems work with the new Predator lights which are a rectangular donut shape.It's using the shadows under the OB (made by the table's lights) as "references", like using the lights reflected on the OB's surface the same way.
Both techniques have the same flaw - aiming references need to be consistent (like fractional alignments), but shadows and light reflections move in relation to the OB from table to table (with different lights) and even from position to position on the same table.
pj
chgo
Pretty sure they work about the same either way.Yup. I wonder how those systems work with the new Predator lights which are a rectangular donut shape.
Well I dunno, I have a rectangular Diamond light, but I never see rectangular shadows under the balls.Yup. I wonder how those systems work with the new Predator lights which are a rectangular donut shape.
No matter how a light is applied to a sphere…it goes around it in the same fashion. The shadow can be stretched out but where it actually exits the bottom of the ball is going to be in the same place as you look objectively at it from diff positions.Well I dunno, I have a rectangular Diamond light, but I never see rectangular shadows under the balls.
hi KeebieNo matter how a light is applied to a sphere…it goes around it in the same fashion. The shadow can be stretched out but where it actually exits the bottom of the ball is going to be in the same place as you look objectively at it from diff positions.
Even if it’s not centered.
Does "how a light is applied" mean from what angle? Or what?No matter how a light is applied to a sphere…
What does "goes around it" mean?it goes around it in the same fashion.
What does "stretched out" mean?The shadow can be stretched out
What does "exits the bottom of the ball" mean?but where it actually exits the bottom of the ball is going to be in the same place
I’m doing well my friend. Works been great, wonderful team of fellas I work with out there! And I rebuilt a 79 Brunswick prestige 9’ they had out there. Artemis intercontinental 66 cushion, Simonis 860hr….subrails extended, 4” pocket 140° corners. Eats balls nicely, banks great and is quick quick!hi Keebie
hope all is well
Happy Holidays
unfortunatly your old pm's to me are lost and my search at the time i posted this couldnt find your old thread
fortunately i did find it this morning as you posting reminded me of it
in that thread you said
"As I walk through the valley of the shadow of doubt my cue shalt lead and I will fear no evil"
be well my friend
larry
Not today, but I’ll come hold your hand before Christmas ole buddy ol palDoes "how a light is applied" mean from what angle? Or what?
What does "goes around it" mean?
What does "stretched out" mean?
What does "exits the bottom of the ball" mean?
pj
chgo
You just know….if a guy knows. If he knows what he's doing and why and if he can make it come off. and he KNOWS... just feels... when to let it go and how much. Cause he's got everything workin' for 'im: timing, touch. It's a great feeling, boy, it's a real great feeling when you're right and you KNOW you're right!If you play on a table with three- or four-bulb lighting, you will get three or four distinct shadows under the object ball. I wonder how you decide which one to use. Does any shadow aiming system take into account the number of bulbs? And then there is the new Predator light mentioned above.
I am off facebook keebI’m doing well my friend. Works been great, wonderful team of fellas I work with out there! And I rebuilt a 79 Brunswick prestige 9’ they had out there. Artemis intercontinental 66 cushion, Simonis 860hr….subrails extended, 4” pocket 140° corners. Eats balls nicely, banks great and is quick quick!
I told em what I could do to restore the very damaged table conoco bought their b crew in 79 and they bought my spiel hook line and sinker.
I told no one I was tightening up the e pockets…..like I told them tho
You’ll get over it….if you need some buckets I’ll give you some balls and you can go up on the heliport and shoot some into the ocean.
The guys take care of the table and keep it brushed and covered. Took me about 6 months working on it here and there after hours during my hero week hitches….she’s a real peach now.
Happy holidays to you my friend. I sent you a message on FB messenger.
Best wishes,
-Keeb