Cowboy Jimmy Moore - Obviously Using Center to Edge

I look at the shot...

I decide where I want it to go....

Where I need to play position to...

Figure out where and how I need to hit the cue ball to make that happen...

AND THEN....

I get down into shooting position, look at my cue tip, where it's lined up on the cue ball, and then look at the object ball (and if I can see it, the pocket), instantaneously run everything through my wetware (brain), and when I get the "Go" from Houston I pull the trigger.

Lou Figueroa
somehow
I feel
unburdened :-)

Finally, we have a concise and comprehensive description for PIITH. Now could we please get something like this for CTE?

Roger
 
Finally, we have a concise and comprehensive description for PIITH. Now could we please get something like this for CTE?

Roger

Roger, this is getting old. You mean to say you have no idea how to at the very least start using CTE. I mean concise and comprehensive descriptions have been posted on CTE. Do you need your hand held.
 
Incredibly, this "system" works for safety play. I decide what I want to do, where I and how I need to hit the cue ball to do it, and all else is the same. Unbelievably, it works for banks even better! In fact, after one memorable match, Efren came up to shake my hand and told me, "Louis bank good. Miss straight in."

Lou Figueroa
'bout sums it up
somedays :-)

Put the pieces together Lou. Bank your way, play safe your way, CTE straight ins center pocket. Efren take you on road with him.
 
Roger, this is getting old. You mean to say you have no idea how to at the very least start using CTE. I mean concise and comprehensive descriptions have been posted on CTE. Do you need your hand held.

Yes, I guess I need my hand held. Who held yours?

Roger
 
Roger, this is getting old. You mean to say you have no idea how to at the very least start using CTE. I mean concise and comprehensive descriptions have been posted on CTE. Do you need your hand held.

I also agree with you; this is getting very, very old. :(

Roger
 
I guess I don't understand the "regretfully" part. What is the point in keeping it complicated and secretive?

Roger

I explained this to you,a couple days ago on this very thread,it is a little aggravating that you ask that again
 
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Well the answer to your first question is yes.I can teach it in a public forum,the second part of why not? is for one I worked too hard on it to give it away on a public scale,and two it is not my system.If it were to be published it should have been done by Hal,I dont think Stan should publish it either,but there is nothing I can do about it.There are a lot of CTE players scattered across the country ,I think it should be taught person to person.After all that has went on why not buy a plane ticket and fly to Myrtle Beach and I will teach it to you,as long as it does not go public.As long as this information has been around if the creator of it wanted it published it would already have happened.If you can get Hal to call me and say put it on the forum then I will.I hope this answers your questions

This is the post
 
Well the answer to your first question is yes.I can teach it in a public forum,the second part of why not? is for one I worked too hard on it to give it away on a public scale,and two it is not my system.If it were to be published it should have been done by Hal,I dont think Stan should publish it either,but there is nothing I can do about it.There are a lot of CTE players scattered across the country ,I think it should be taught person to person.After all that has went on why not buy a plane ticket and fly to Myrtle Beach and I will teach it to you,as long as it does not go public.As long as this information has been around if the creator of it wanted it published it would already have happened.If you can get Hal to call me and say put it on the forum then I will.I hope this answers your questions

So to be more concise and comprehensive about it then, you are saying that (with you, anyway) it is a matter of using CTE for profit?

Roger
 
Regretfully Stan is doing that

I don't see why you regret this. If it increases interest in learning the game, how is that bad?

Are you afraid you will lose your edge? Are neophyte chumps suddenly going to bury you?

I spent 30 years on the racetrack, and every time something good went public, (speed figs, class figs, breeding figs, angles,whatever) there was always a bunch complaining that it would ruin their good thing. Guess what. It made no difference in outcomes. What it did do was generate some better students of the game who would stick around. It turned some losers into winners, added a tool for the winners, increased overall knowledge of the game, but it did not turn winners into losers.

Regardless of the mystical methodology of CTE, the maneuvers still be performed with accuracy in the mm range. Not everyone will be able to do this, nor will they have a stroke that can make it happen.

So far, we've not seen any true miracles from CTE. The testimonials are from players who have had a lot of pool experience outside of CTE, and regardless of whether they use it or not, should have a reasonable command of the game.

If you think a CTE video is going to create a massive legion of run-out players who were previously chumps, it isn't going to happen. It didn't happen with any pool book written, it hasn't happened with "Perfect Aim", and it won't happen with CTE.

A minority of the couple (perhaps few) thousand buyers of the video will practice it enough so that it moves their game up significantly, some will use it as "another tool", and many will either reject it or not work enough at it for it to matter. That is the way it always is when new methodology is brought into sports.
 
So to be more concise and comprehensive about it then, you are saying that (with you, anyway) it is a matter of using CTE for profit?

Roger

If Hal wanted it out for the world to view,he would do it himself ,it has been around a long time and he never went public with the details.And it is HIS work
 
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I don't see why you regret this. If it increases interest in learning the game, how is that bad?

Are you afraid you will lose your edge? Are neophyte chumps suddenly going to bury you?

I spent 30 years on the racetrack, and every time something good went public, (speed figs, class figs, breeding figs, angles,whatever) there was always a bunch complaining that it would ruin their good thing. Guess what. It made no difference in outcomes. What it did do was generate some better students of the game who would stick around. It turned some losers into winners, added a tool for the winners, increased overall knowledge of the game, but it did not turn winners into losers.

Regardless of the mystical methodology of CTE, the maneuvers still be performed with accuracy in the mm range. Not everyone will be able to do this, nor will they have a stroke that can make it happen.

So far, we've not seen any true miracles from CTE. The testimonials are from players who have had a lot of pool experience outside of CTE, and regardless of whether they use it or not, should have a reasonable command of the game.

If you think a CTE video is going to create a massive legion of run-out players who were previously chumps, it isn't going to happen. It didn't happen with any pool book written, it hasn't happened with "Perfect Aim", and it won't happen with CTE.

A minority of the couple (perhaps few) thousand buyers of the video will practice it enough so that it moves their game up significantly, some will use it as "another tool", and many will either reject it or not work enough at it for it to matter. That is the way it always is when new methodology is brought into sports.

My views and opinions are in that post and it is just IMHO
 
If Hal wanted it out for the world to view,he would do it himself ,it has been around a long time and he never went public with the details.And it is HIS work

Come on, Petey, you're backing away from your first explanation of why you regret seeing Stan do the video on CTE (you feel you deserve to make some money from giving private lessons), and your second explanation (posted above) makes little sense.

A system cannot be copyrighted, therefore no one person can own it. And if Hal didn't want it out for the world to view, why did he put some of the information about it in public forums? And if he gave away full information to anyone by phone or in person, why would he care if someone else came up with a comprehensive explanation and put it in a public forum?

Something isn't adding up here. Yet.

Roger
 
Come on, Petey, you're backing away from your first explanation of why you regret seeing Stan do the video on CTE (you feel you deserve to make some money from giving private lessons), and your second explanation (posted above) makes little sense.

A system cannot be copyrighted, therefore no one person can own it. And if Hal didn't want it out for the world to view, why did he put some of the information about it in public forums? And if he gave away full information to anyone by phone or in person, why would he care if someone else came up with a comprehensive explanation and put it in a public forum?

Something isn't adding up here. Yet.

Roger

Hal never wanted his info on the forums because, understandably, he couldn't hack many of those who frequently the forums and it made him physically sick to think he would improve their ability to play.... and that's that.
 
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