Cristy Carter

[Mr. Wilson]

And again Dave, this is with all due respect here as we have grown to be friends, but isn't your statement (bold) above the same kind of derogatory tone and insulting remark that you try to keep us from using on one another???

No, not insinuating.

People keep putting him on a pedastal and I don't see where the reputation is being earned.

Rather than saying something negative and to that effect, I am deffering to ( maybe ) more rational opinions and examples of his wisdom.

It is open ended, allowing people to show me something I may have missed.

 

[Hal]

Mr. Wilson how much useful pool information you have posted? I'll bet it's less than Jimbo.

Here is more valuable Jimbo information. This makes two full pages. I'll stop now. You can see how fast I found two full pages of useful Jimbo information. I could easily find 10 more pages.

Many artist are very hard to work with, I think often you put up with it to get nice work, and his work can be very nice. I'm not a fan when a person feels a need to put down other's work to talk up his own. Good luck dealing with him.

Jim

Thanks Zeeder, I knew that these rare cues would not be lost on all.
When was the last time anyone has ever seen a piano Meucci on e-bay?? The last Tomahawk I saw sold for $850, I want to know how many AZers have a cue worth $850???

Jim

Any cue no matter how fancy can break the balls and play, if it can't it's not a cue. Any top end cue maker will tell you the same exact thing, if he doesn't then I'd say steer clear.

Jim

Maybe Nick is unclear, can't explain it or chooses not to, but I believe the difference in the joint we are looking at is that the pin is set into the black phenolic (instead of into wood), and the metal joint is just sleeved over that material. I believe I have seen this done before, mostly in Ivory jointed cues and of the top of my head can't recall who has done it, but I don't believe it to be new to cues. I also wonder if that ring goes into the forearm of the cue at all and how it's attached. Tim has done flat faced Acme pins before (he didn't like the threads) but maybe never directly into that ring. I hope this clears up the big mystery, of course I could be wrong and I am sure Tim wouldn't mind clearing it up, but if you were to slide the metal off that joint I am assuming that the black is one piece turned down and connects with that black ring under it.

Jim

I agree that a raffle will/can make more money and get more involved, I've done them in the past and would help on this one if you aren't set on the bid idea, most people wouldn't mind changing it up in cases where it's for a good cause.

Jim

Also you may check E-bay, often times you can find a nice cue in that price range, maybe a plain Joss or a Used Meucci, around $100-$200 range.

Jim

AZ has a bunch of guys who are trying to learn to be cuemakers/ repairman, many of them will work cheap because they need the experience, sometimes you'll get great work done for a reasonable price, other times you'll get what you paid for. Just keep in mind the old saying "you get what you pay for" and don't ***** later that your cue warped and it wasn't worth the $25 you spent.

Jim

Well I'm not sure when he finalized it or how long they take to get but he has had *Pending* on the butt for quite some time, I figured once filed it took some time and money to research it to make sure it's not already done and to make sure nobody else makes a claim to it.
As far as your shafts go for a while he outsourced them and had some issues with quality control.

Jim

By the way, since I made my initial post about Mr. Wilson. I've received about 700 rep points.

 

[Koop]

No, not insinuating.

People keep putting him on a pedastal and I don't see where the reputation is being earned.

Rather than saying something negative and to that effect, I am deffering to ( maybe ) more rational opinions and examples of his wisdom.

It is open ended, allowing people to show me something I may have missed.

Dave,

Anything cue related is JimBo's area of expertise. He has countless posts in the cue sections that are informative and very worthwhile reads. I would be willing to bet that his posts draw the most attention of anyone in the entire section.

Regards,
Koop - has learned a lot from JimBo's writings.

 

[TATE]

Brian, you are an example of someone whom I have come to respect despite a rocky start, so I'll ask, in all honesty, please share something within the past year that Jimbo shared with us that was so knowlegeable.

I just want to make one thing very clear. I hope that nobody here confuses the character Jimbo with the man, Jim. Jim is a knowledgeable, likeable, respectable person. He is known in the cue collecting world and has really assumed a leadership role in that regard. He knows a ton and he also knows who knows what.

I just ask you to temper your opinion of Jim and not confuse or mistake the poster Jimbo for the real man, Jim. There is no comparison. What you are seeing is a devilish character Jim invented who masks a kind, generous, sensitive, and thoughtful human being.

You have to read Jimbo the right way to understand his posts. Is he sarcastic? God yes. Does he screw around with people and busts balls? Of course. Is he mean? Absolutely not. At least, not in real life. He is just sensitive to criticism, innuendo, and maybe people who maybe haven't paid their dues or earned their keep yet. He's just a little...emotional, for lack of a better word and doesn't suffer fools very well.

Jimbo the poster is still an enigma to me, while the real Jim is not. Trust me on this. None of us is perfect. My guess is he's out of here.

Chris

 

[Hal]

How many respectful people have to take up for Jimbo? Don't say it doesn't matter because you specifically asked for useful Jimbo information.

 

[ribdoner]

Dave,

Anything cue related is JimBo's area of expertise. He has countless posts in the cue sections that are informative and very worthwhile reads. I would be willing to bet that his posts draw the most attention of anyone in the entire section.

Regards,
Koop - has learned a lot from JimBo's writings.

SOOOOO TRUE.....one of the attributes that JIM has is that he shares his knowledge without implementing an agenda which is self serving. Very rare....

 

[catscradle]

I don't recall ever seeing you post anyone's PM's but you have mentioned the term "behind the scenes" in other scenario's where people were banned.

I think a more acurate way to ask what I believe Bigtruck was trying to ask is... "Do you hold private conversations with members against them when you ban them"?

Because you've mentioned this before and because there is no mention of private messages in the posted forum rules, it seems a valid question so that others like Bigtruck and anyone else will know. I think most people take private messages to be private and since they're not disrupting the board and no one else see's them (providing they aren't posted by someone), most people would/do assume that PM's are a place where they can state their side of an argument in a "neutral zone". A place where they can state their disagreement with you or anyone without "publicly undermining the moderators and the viability of the forum".

Tap-tap-tap.
... but somebody around here makes up the rules as they see fit. I'd mention his handle, but of course that wouldn't be politically correct and we all know we're all pc around here. Either pc or gone.
YAWN.

 

[Hidy Ho]

I just want to make one thing very clear. I hope that nobody here confuses the character Jimbo with the man, Jim. Jim is a knowledgeable, likeable, respectable person. He is known in the cue collecting world and has really assumed a leadership role in that regard. He knows a ton and he also knows who knows what.

I just ask you to temper your opinion of Jim and not confuse or mistake the poster Jimbo for the real man, Jim. There is no comparison. What you are seeing is a devilish character Jim invented who masks a kind, generous, sensitive, and thoughtful human being.

You have to read Jimbo the right way to understand his posts. Is he sarcastic? God yes. Does he screw around with people and busts balls? Of course. Is he mean? Absolutely not. At least, not in real life. He is just sensitive to criticism, innuendo, and maybe people who maybe haven't paid their dues or earned their keep yet. He's just a little...emotional, for lack of a better word and doesn't suffer fools very well.

Jimbo the poster is still an enigma to me, while the real Jim is not. Trust me on this. None of us is perfect. My guess is he's out of here.

Chris

Chris, I share the same sentiments with you. Jim or Jimbo, like yourself, has been most gracious and kind friend to me. He has never said no to any stupid questions/favor I may ask him on and off the board. His knowledge of cues and cue makers are very extensive.

I truly feel it's sad day for the board to lose Jimbo as I see him as very very valuable asset to the forum.

 

[X Breaker]

I had the pleasure of speaking with Jim in Valley Forge. I cannot say I know him, but I certainly would love to have the opportunity to know him better.

We spoke very briefly about cues, he was very polite, and well spoken.

I read most of Jim's posts. I read them with a totally different prespective after I met him. I like the insight and knowledge that he shares, and I have learned a few things from his posts.

Dave, if you have met JimBo, you may change your opinion on him entirely. I am sure lots of members have filed complaints at him so it must have made your job very difficult. May I plead you to please reconsider the decision of banning him...

I came to this forum a few years back because I loved cues, I really want to have more knowledgable cue makers and cue collectors around, so we can talk about a topic we really love.

I can't speak for everyone, but I think it is fair to say those of us who really love to talk about cues and to look at beautiful cues love to see JimBo here.

Just my .02 cents,

Richard

 

[Hal]

The most respectful members of this board are coming forward in defense of Jimbo. Cueaddicts, Tate, Jazz, X Breaker, etc. They're the ones that "run" this board. Their knowledge keeps this board afloat.

 

[Pinocchio]

!!!!!!!!!!!

To many people around here wear their heart on their sleeve. To me Jimbo
is just a funny informative guy. I like to chat or pm him he always has the answer. Sometimes I would think I was provoking him but I really knew better because Jimbo is 10 times smarter than myself. I lurked here for about a year an ahalf. when I would come online I would always look for the JIMBO. Surely this is not the end of Jimbo. I have never cried for a moderators help to get someone off me nor do I ever intent to. I would rather see a CRY BABY banned. Bring back Jimbo!!!!!!!!!

 

[Mr. Wilson]

He's got three months off.

My original intention was to make it for life.

 

[Hidy Ho]

He's got three months off.

My original intention was to make it for life.

Can I go on three months off instead of him? Trading hostage???

 

[buddha162]

Rather than saying something negative and to that effect, I am deffering to ( maybe ) more rational opinions and examples of his wisdom.

It is open ended, allowing people to show me something I may have missed.

Like Tate pointed out, to judge Jimbo you must take in the context of his online personality. In the short time that you posed this honest question, there has been countless responses...by tomorrow there will probably be pages of Jimbo references.

I'll share Jimbo's biggest contribution for me, and that is his (often caustic, lol) rants on cue design theft. That left a deep impression and made me realize how passionate the man is about custom cues and cuemakers.

Dave, I applaud your effort to gather a fuller picture of a long-time member. I hope these responses has some effect on your decision.

-Roger

 

[Timberly]

May I plead you to please reconsider the decision of banning him...

I just want to make one thing very clear. I hope that nobody here confuses the character Jimbo with the man, Jim. Jim is a knowledgeable, likeable, respectable person. He is known in the cue collecting world and has really assumed a leadership role in that regard. He knows a ton and he also knows who knows what.

Koop - has learned a lot from JimBo's writings.

Upon my return, I come to realize that JimBo, one of our most knowledgeable posters here, has been banned.

It's unfortunate, though, but the forums here at AzB seem to be losing some of their luster.

one of the attributes that JIM has is that he shares his knowledge without implementing an agenda which is self serving. Very rare....

I truly feel it's sad day for the board to lose Jimbo as I see him as very very valuable asset to the forum.

Relax! Just think of it this way... you still have the folks that fall under "Forum member "A" (that I mentioned earlier) to read & learn from.

 

[rackmsuckr]

Just wanted to put in my .02. Dave, please reconsider. Even though I never go to the cue section, I respected Jim's opinions on other topics and feel that banning him was extreme. I read the entire Kristi thread and never felt he was out of line. Rambunctious maybe, but he never went over the line. He was here long before most of us and is a valued member of AZB.

Tis the season, Dave. Even if you 2 never resolve your differences personally, there is a huge contingent out here that respects both of you and doesn't want to lose the diversity that makes up our board.

Thanks for listening.

Linda

 

[Hal]

Speaking of 3 month bans, when does Rude Dog get out of the hole?

 

[ribdoner]

Speaking of 3 month bans, when does Rude Dog get out of the hole?

I thought 12-15

 

[BarenbruggeCues]

Can I go on three months off instead of him? Trading hostage???

Two for one...........I'm with you Jazz.

 

[pharaoh68]

No, not insinuating.

People keep putting him on a pedastal and I don't see where the reputation is being earned.

Rather than saying something negative and to that effect, I am deffering to ( maybe ) more rational opinions and examples of his wisdom.

It is open ended, allowing people to show me something I may have missed.

Nobody is putting Jim on a pedestal of any kind. Jim is no better or worse thanany of us. He is no different than a lot of us. I too have strong opinions that have gotten me into some fights with many members here and has even made me a mrked man in the eyes of some cuemakers.

But as many of your longest running and most prolific posting members here have pointed out, perhaps your gripe with Jim has blinded you from seeing the real issue. JimBo IS one of the truly valued members of this community and yet he gets shown the door while some of these other trouble starters get to hang around and carry the torch in Shorty's name - stirring the pot and then running and crying to the mods when the sh*tstorm ensues.