CTE Aiming Video

Colin Colenso said:
eezbank,
Thanks for explaining that. That is a method I tried also with some success, but it would need more practice for me to judge the correct offset.

Do you feel you can judge the offset so well that you can pretty much pivot and shoot (not looking to the OB), or do you sometimes make a slight bridge shift during the pivot to CB center?

Colin
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I never adjust my bridge. The offset is something that I can see. I think JB said it best. If you miss you rattle the pocket. It sounds like he uses a similar method. I used my cue as an imaginary rail so the offset that was needed was more clear while learning the system. It's almost automatic. You have to invest the time on the drill. Even if you don't use a pivot based system the drill is a great way to improve your shot making skills.
 
i dont think people realize the potential of this cte aiming and how much it will improve potting. Last night I used it breaking while playing 8 ball, every time I broke someone said "wow nice @#$%en break!!" u crush the balls on break with a pivot!!! I am starting to get the feel of it and i still have a ways to go but broke an ran out back to back using it!! I am curious to see where I will be at a few months from now?
 
eezbank said:
I never adjust my bridge. The offset is something that I can see. I think JB said it best. If you miss you rattle the pocket. It sounds like he uses a similar method. I used my cue as an imaginary rail so the offset that was needed was more clear while learning the system. It's almost automatic. You have to invest the time on the drill. Even if you don't use a pivot based system the drill is a great way to improve your shot making skills.
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Thanks for explaining further eezbank.
That testimonial agrees with a couple of others I've heard regarding any adjustment being totally pre-pivot followed by a systematic pivot to center.

I'm not saying this is how everyone does it, but some do.

It's still a revolutionary way of determining the required aim line. The old way being to look somewhere near the OB and try to feel where to point the cue at it. With these pivoting methods its is to place the bridge and cue somewhere relative to the center to edge line and cue ball, by some degree of feel and experience, in a way such that the pivot produces the required line of aim.

Perhaps when I say feel here, it is not in the same sense of how we feel when sighting and aiming for potting in a traditional sense. I mean it is not purely systematic, a kind of estimate based on experience.

Obviously, for a beginner, this may not be intuitive, but I can imagine that with regular practice, a player can develop a pretty good mastery of an increasing range of pot angles at various distances.

It's obviously a very different feeling to knock balls in without having to strain the eyes looking for a contact point or ghost ball center.

Colin
 
champ2107 said:
at 3:20 on this video it looks like he is going cte and pivots left to right, what do u guys think?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0DEW8xVCiQ
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I don't think that has anything to do with a CTE aiming system at all.

What he is doing is quite simple. He is using a bit of left to spin the ball in in order to hold shape for the 9. if he hits it dead on, he hits the rail... If he hits it dead on with some left, the OB will throw to the right. Which will allow him to hold the CB for the nine. He could even hit the OB a bit on the wrong side and the OB will still go in.

I'm not saying he is not using a CTE system... What I am saying is - he is clearly striking the ball this way in order to get position... not gain an aiming advantage... if you fellas don't understand that then I just gave you a huge tip. Understand it and see what happens to your game.


Matter of opinion (fact) 99% of the time a pro is striking the CB to get position through some sort of manipulation of physics. NOT to take advantage of an aiming system. I may not say it in a way to believe it but its true. The delivery package put on a CB is to get the position 99% of the time. And bustamante is obviously playing position in that shot... He just happens to know where to aim to pocket the ball...
 
CaptiveBred said:
I don't think that has anything to do with a CTE aiming system at all.

I'm not saying he is not using a CTE system... What I am saying is - he is clearly striking the ball this way in order to get position... not gain an aiming advantage... if you fellas don't understand that then I just gave you a huge tip. Understand it and see what happens to your game.
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Captive...Nearly every shot he shoots, his tip position is on the left edge of the CB. His final stroke was to center. His shot was straight into the left tit of the pocket. He repeats that setup all the time. That shot as a stun/follow-- not a left throw-in shot.
 
it is possible I am correct, spiderweb...

And I would wager that FB could pocket that ball with any speed, spin, or bridge length he wants to. if you can believe that, ask yourself why he chose that approach... Do you think its because thats the only way he can pocket the ball??????????????? or because he neded to to try to get out.........


oh well, back to work for me. Lunch break is over...
 
Another thing that is obvious to me that you guys prob don't see. After he chalks and places the chalk...

... he hovered his cue over the table and turned it SLIGHTLY before coming down. He was assessing the location of the CTEL at that moment.
 
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CaptiveBred said:
it is possible I am correct, spiderweb...

And I would wager that FB could pocket that ball with any speed, spin, or bridge length he wants to. if you can believe that, ask yourself why he chose that approach... Do you think its because thats the only way he can pocket the ball??????????????? or because he neded to to try to get out.........


oh well, back to work for me. Lunch break is over...
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I'm saying I know he pivots on every shot. Know for a fact. Even dead straight shots. It's not the only way to pocket the ball... it's just the way he chooses to pocket the ball.
 
CaptiveBred:
- he is clearly striking the ball this way in order to get position... not gain an aiming advantage... if you fellas don't understand that then I just gave you a huge tip. Understand it and see what happens to your game.
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Captive...Nearly every shot he shoots, his tip position is on the left edge of the CB. His final stroke was to center. His shot was straight into the left tit of the pocket. He repeats that setup all the time. That shot as a stun/follow-- not a left throw-in shot.
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CaptiveBred is right. He throws it in and that's what he was trying to do - you can see the spin on the CB and the throw on the OB as it splits the pocket rather than hitting the left tit. You can even tell by his body english after hitting it that it was a tricky shape shot.

I don't know whether or not he uses a pivot aiming system, but he threw that ball on purpose and didn't pivot to do it. If this an example of how you "know for sure" he uses CTE, then your "knowing" is pretty similar to "wishful thinking".

pj
chgo
 
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Patrick if you watch the video you will see that his tip is on the left side of the cue ball. True?

As he takes his final stroke he strokes through the center of the cue ball and not where he stroking his practice strokes. True? It's kind of odd imo to pivot to center on last stroke but it works for him. I have a match of Reyes and Busty playing in the US Open. I was looking to find their pivots and obviously we know that Busty practice strokes on the left side and then pivots on the final stroke. He does this through the entire match. As for Reyes.. he air pivots. It is very hard to spot it because he does it so quick but it is noticeable sometimes.
 
devindra said:
Patrick if you watch the video you will see that his tip is on the left side of the cue ball. True?

As he takes his final stroke he strokes through the center of the cue ball and not where he stroking his practice strokes. True? It's kind of odd imo to pivot to center on last stroke but it works for him. I have a match of Reyes and Busty playing in the US Open. I was looking to find their pivots and obviously we know that Busty practice strokes on the left side and then pivots on the final stroke. He does this through the entire match. As for Reyes.. he air pivots. It is very hard to spot it because he does it so quick but it is noticeable sometimes.
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I agree with you. I thought these moves were just BHE until I had a session with Hal. If Colenso views this maybe he can do the animated gif of the move so we can see how he pivots.
 
I watched Bustamante played here in Manila, he certainly pivots.
Orcullo pivots too mostly in the air. If he has a tough shot and taking his time, you will clearly see Orcullo pivots while standing up.:)
 
Patrick Johnson said:
CaptiveBred is right. He throws it in and that's what he was trying to do - you can see the spin on the CB and the throw on the OB as it splits the pocket rather than hitting the left tit. You can even tell by his body english after hitting it that it was a tricky shape shot.

I don't know whether or not he uses a pivot aiming system, but he threw that ball on purpose and didn't pivot to do it. If this an example of how you "know for sure" he uses CTE, then your "knowing" is pretty similar to "wishful thinking".

pj
chgo
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PJ -

I'm not gonna let ya suck me in...because I'll say white and you'll say black no matter what. I do know, however. So while you speculate, I know. The others who know Django know too. SOOO, if you're ever at a pro event and Busty is there and I'm there, make sure you come up to me and ask me to bet something. That way, you can't wiggle out in person.

Dave

My only wishful thinking is that you'll pull yourself out of your wheelchair one day and back up your shit talking.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
PJ -

I'm not gonna let ya suck me in...because I'll say white and you'll say black no matter what. I do know, however. So while you speculate, I know. The others who know Django know too. SOOO, if you're ever at a pro event and Busty is there and I'm there, make sure you come up to me and ask me to bet something. That way, you can't wiggle out in person.

Dave

My only wishful thinking is that you'll pull yourself out of your wheelchair one day and back up your shit talking.
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Be careful Dave. You might get his 5k air barrel!! :killingme:
 
It warms me heart indeed.

Its so much fun to peek in on an A.S. thread, and see that all the same guys are still calling the same other guy's $%^&^@#$%^&*$#@^%*&^%$#^&?* idiots. (I predict another A.S. thread will soon put this one to shame!) :eek:

Anti-A.A.S. Dick
 
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As he takes his final stroke he strokes through the center of the cue ball and not where he stroking his practice strokes. True?
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Not true. You can see that he doesn't hit centerball and you can clearly see that he puts left spin on the (spotted) CB. He may hit closer to center on the shot stroke (or he may not; it's impossible to tell for sure), but he definitely doesn't hit centerball.

You pivot guys just want to believe this.

pj
chgo
 
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