I use cte on certain shots,and on those shots I almost never miss them,but I dont use it on every shot
CTE aiming.
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I can see that. What percent of shots would you say you use CTE?
I don't see why not. Since it can't be taught in video form, why not?
You dont understand ,,if i posted up a diagram on how the system really
works there would be know more cte aiming battle threads.
Can we live with that?
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Yes, I think we can.
Scott Didn't he tell you he only has about 15 minutes left.
I feel bad I was talking to him fairly regularly for a couple of months then dropped off. I'm sure if I call he won't remember.
I asked him if there was a way to convert this to 3C.
By the way folks during my first phone lesson I literally hit a piece of lint on my 3C table about 9ft away. Don't have no pockets to aim at. And thats while holding a super thin cell phone with my shoulder. Plus I almost never play pool.
Very cool system. And yes it makes no sense.
Scott You don't know what you don't know. RIGHT?
We love ya Hal.
My bias is based on finding the truth and knowledge. I think there is a clique of "instructors" that know what they know and use partial information to "prove" certain techniques are bunk (i.e. CTE). These people even quote information from people who are clueless to the inner workings of such systems.
What's shocking to me (and why I take a hard-line stance with you) is that you claim to be an instructional author yet you make no attempt to learn information outside of what "random people" post on azbilliards. When no one spoon feeds you, you (and others) use that as proof as to why "no one can show this in a systematic way in 5 mins at the table or in a video."
What's weird is if I was an "instructional author" -- I'd go on information safaris in order to get to the bottom of certain information. I'd seek out certain people who might know stuff that I didn't and get the info. I'd never do pool research on a keyboard. The best info isn't found on forums.
Well, CTE is a system that can be taught in 2 mins at the table, not 5. There are no adjustments outside of adjusting for one's perception errors.
I'll spoon feed you and a few others (who knock what they're clueless about as well) some info that will being you closer to the answer.
- There are an infinite number of edges to each sphere (ball)
- The edges shift the moment your perspective changes
- The table / balls rotate as you move around the table (straight ahead is 12:00 at all times, as you move to one side or the other - the "picture" you look at rotates CW/CCW in relation to 12:00)
- NEWS FLASH>>>There are TWO CIRCLES that are the foundation of CTE's geometry: 1) The shot circle: bridge is the center of the circle and the face of the OB is the edge (used to determine the arc of your pivot) and 2) The OB circle: is made with the OB being the center of the circle and the CB being the edge (this circle is used to determine the "outermost edge" pre-pivot)
..... so with those tiny little insignificant nuggets, a high school DROP OUT can play around for an hour and quintuple their ball pocketing overnight. Wannabes will stare at it and want to be fed more and post further nonsense. Matter of fact, this paired with some way-older posts is the complete picture. I wonder who'll figure it out first??
The reason the guts of this hasn't been disclosed online for years isn't because there's no guts to it (AND NO THE SMARTEST PEOPLE AREN'T TRYING TO FIGURE IT OUT EITHER--- WHAT A JIZZZZOKE), it's because for years those who know don't post and those who think they know do and what you get is a motley collection of partial horse crap.
So, I'll leave it at that - likely my last post forever in CTE-related threads.
Maybe the internet collection of 1000 years post-grad can figure out this tic-tac-toe puzzle.
Warm regards,
Ghost Ball Spidey
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Shit folks you guys know alot about cte compared to me. After reading up on it here i have figured out that you have to line up the center of something to the edge of something and if it's more than a 45 degree angle you have to untie your left shoe and loosen your belt one notch! LOL! I will stick to the oldschool hard way i guess.
C'mon 8pack, don't be like that. I'm not sure where you're going here but I remember you asking me for help???
To be quite honest i ask several people on this forum for help,not so i could learn the system just to verify what they where taught was the same thing that i know.
I wont lie i have talk with Hal a few times and also with RonV.
Hal kinda lost me a little,He was telling to do 2 different things ,one was for
thick shots and was for thins shots .Rons system made alot more sence to me.
Believe me there is a answer for all shots, there has to be dont there.
Are these systems the answer for beginners or advanced players that Know alittle about the game ?No but they will help out .
There are way to many variables in pocketing balls and banking balls.
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I got the part about crazy Americans and I'm bringing this to my Pinoy friend who plays at a high level for translation and verification.
All hail REYES (THE KING & MASTER),
JoeyA
OH. Now, I get it and very clearly. No need to get my Filipino buddy to translate. Joey now speaks fluent Tagalog.
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Translation in case somebody is curious:
You crazy americans. You must have a college degree to shoot pool. Hold stick, hit the ball, it goes into the hole. No slide rule needed. We Filipinos do not need no stinking CTE aiming system.
JMS...Gee that's funny, as I have it recorded on video, where Hal Houle specifically says he taught it to the Filipinos...and that they all do it (aim and pivot). Somebody's not telling the truth...I don't know who.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
I say most pro players use the DAM aiming system. Do you believe me too? The only limited "study" I've seen to try to determine how pros aim is described here:
Regards,
Dave
You seriously beleive that Hal is essentially responsible for the Filipino players high level of play? I call bullshit. I forgot which book written by an american visiting the Philippines, first told of a filipino player (Efren) that could beat anybody in the world. You know this book. This was written before "the invasion." Furthermore, before Efren there had been other great filipino champions like Amang and "Boy Bicol." So how is Hal responsible for the filipinos game when they were good before they even step foot in the US? Remember, Efren said his best game was back inthe 70s. He didnt step foot in the US until the mid 80's. I mention Efren to prove to you that the filipinos didnt just get better overnight after taking a lesson from Hal. Lol.
Food for thought. During the Galveston stream, JoeyA had Roberto Gomez as guest commentator and Joey asked Roberto if they have a system for kicking. Roberto was kinda puzzled at the question. He said he didnt have a system. He just kicks at it.
Hal never said that, at least not to me, and if you haven't talked to him yourself I'd be careful who you call bullshit on. He did tell me that Efren approached him and spent some time with him on CTE and that Efren used it thereafter. Not having spoken with Efren about it, I don't know. I have no reason to believe that Hal lied about it, however. Why would he, he's not selling anything and teaches CTE for free.
Ok we are really bordering on the absurd now. Even if he did show efren cte it doesnt prove he uses it. But thats not even it. He claims that all the filipino players use his system. He might not have areason to lie but he sounds delusional for taking credit for something he has nothing to do with. Imagine he basically taught the Philippines, arguably o the strongest pool playing nation the planet, how to shoot. Give me a break.
Why don't you call him and ask him? THEN I might give you a break, maybe not.