Well, thanks for admitting that, and providing so many with the laughs in the last post you made.
Yep from the guy who stated you cannot do a up stroke on a pool table.
Proof you do not have the capacity for understanding shit.
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Yep from the guy who stated you cannot do a up stroke on a pool table.
Proof you do not have the capacity for understanding shit.
What the %#@ is a up stroke?
Tell you what I understand.
Stan is easily 100 times the player you are, and probably 150 times the player you are if you don't get to use the arrow on every shot.
Prove me wrong and post up a video of a straight pool run oh bank-master.
Tell me how tough is that competition in Milpitas, are you still getting those big spots from players that nobody heard of? When I call them, will they even know who you are?
Stan is easily 100 times the player you are, and probably 150 times the player you are if you don't get to use the arrow on every shot.
Prove me wrong and post up a video of a straight pool run oh bank-master.
Tell me how tough is that competition in Milpitas, are you still getting those big spots from players that nobody heard of? When I call them, will they even know who you are?
As I stated in the other thread, I stated that in reference to the video picture shown. Not to every shot available at some time on a table. So, the only thing it is proof of, is that you can't follow a conversation, and like to put words in peoples mouths to make a point that doesn't exist.
But, since you brought up that thread, why did you make snide remarks about CTE there? Then put up a picture of a cb and expect everyone to know where the edge of the cb was, but you insist that there are no edges on a cb??
Something that actually comes up less than a masse' shot does in reality.
But to some on here, it is a magical stroke that can do what a normal stroke can't do.
Ever notice that all the CTE discussion is on pocketing a ball and not ball placement like in safety play in a game of 14.1?
Same with fractional and so on.
Nothing ever about safes when you are not trying to pocket a ball but place balls.
Why is that?
Is there no 2x1 table connection with safes?
How bout kick shots?
Seems it is always just putting a ball in the pocket.......kinda limited in use when you really consider all the various types of shots that are possible.
Ever read anyone describing the visuals for a combo or carom shot?
Same with fractional and so on.
Nothing ever about safes when you are not trying to pocket a ball but place balls.
Why is that?
Is there no 2x1 table connection with safes?
How bout kick shots?
Seems it is always just putting a ball in the pocket.......kinda limited in use when you really consider all the various types of shots that are possible.
Ever read anyone describing the visuals for a combo or carom shot?
Yes, isn't it strange that a topic on how to pocket balls only talks about pocketing balls? How's that ghostball working for you on masse' shots, or compensate for squirt and swerve, or CIT or SIT?
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Everyone knows how to ride a bicycle, but very few know how to ride a unicycle. Bear with me for a moment.
So we decide to learn to unicycle. We get our shiny new unicycle in the mail, along with an instructional video teaching the basics. Great! So we pop the video in and watch. It shows some people riding unicycles, gives some instructions about starting with a foot on the pedal, keep our center of balance over the wheel, keep our arms out to help balance, etc. Ok, GOT IT.
So we head out to the driveway and give this unicycle thing a whirl. On our first attempt, we go a foot and fall over. Hmm, that's somewhat discouraging. No matter, lets try again. Over the course of the next ten attempts, we are able to get both feet planted on the pedals, but getting no more than a couple of feet before we fall off. Better, but hardly "riding".
So we decide to devote 15-30 mins of our time every day. Over the course of the first week, we are making markedly good progress. We can get on the bike and constantly pedal a good 10 feet or so, and we have become much more graceful dismounting when we fall over. After week two, we can pretty much ride this thing in a straight line as far as we want! Hooray! Over the first month we get to the point where we are not really thinking about the balancing any more. We can jump on and just go wherever we want. Over the course of the first six months our balance and intuition get more and more fine tuned, to the point that we are quite comfortable riding the unicycle in a variety of situations (bumpy, muddy, hilly environments.)
Now, lets back up to where we first got our unicycle. We watched the video, we went out on the driveway and succeeded in falling over a few times. So now, we head to the unicycle forum and start asking questions.
"I can't ride this unicycle, what gives?"
"You have to hold your balance over the wheel."
"Can you give me an objective definition of that?"
"Just keep trying, you'll get it."
"But it doesn't work, I don't know how to make it balance."
"You'll figure it out, just keep trying. It won't take long. It's not hard, it's just different."
Some people give in and keep trying and it doesn't take long to get it. These people always end up figuring it out, they just have to put in a bit of time.
Others just give up after a handful of attempts. Some of these people even decide to post a poor review about their unicycle and how it is impossible to use.
I think you all know where I'm going with this. CTE is not hard, it is just different. If you can push aside intimate understanding of everything up front, and instead take the basic shots from the DVD and "go through the motions" using manual pivoting, in a few days to maybe a few weeks you will have markedly good progress. More than likely a few lightbulb moments will happen. Seeing the perceptions over and over and over begin to draw a mental image how these perceptions look at the table. They are different at first, but very quickly the mind picks up on what you are looking for. The perceptions of these test shots spill right over to the zillion shots on the table, so you can quickly implement them into your normal game.
But, (at least in my own experience), you have to be willing to get over this initial hump. There is no amount of explanation that will lead you to the table and "just work", you have to put some time in. Not a lot of time, but some. Kind of like the unicycle.
You can keep the clown jokes to yourself
So we decide to learn to unicycle. We get our shiny new unicycle in the mail, along with an instructional video teaching the basics. Great! So we pop the video in and watch. It shows some people riding unicycles, gives some instructions about starting with a foot on the pedal, keep our center of balance over the wheel, keep our arms out to help balance, etc. Ok, GOT IT.
So we head out to the driveway and give this unicycle thing a whirl. On our first attempt, we go a foot and fall over. Hmm, that's somewhat discouraging. No matter, lets try again. Over the course of the next ten attempts, we are able to get both feet planted on the pedals, but getting no more than a couple of feet before we fall off. Better, but hardly "riding".
So we decide to devote 15-30 mins of our time every day. Over the course of the first week, we are making markedly good progress. We can get on the bike and constantly pedal a good 10 feet or so, and we have become much more graceful dismounting when we fall over. After week two, we can pretty much ride this thing in a straight line as far as we want! Hooray! Over the first month we get to the point where we are not really thinking about the balancing any more. We can jump on and just go wherever we want. Over the course of the first six months our balance and intuition get more and more fine tuned, to the point that we are quite comfortable riding the unicycle in a variety of situations (bumpy, muddy, hilly environments.)
Now, lets back up to where we first got our unicycle. We watched the video, we went out on the driveway and succeeded in falling over a few times. So now, we head to the unicycle forum and start asking questions.
"I can't ride this unicycle, what gives?"
"You have to hold your balance over the wheel."
"Can you give me an objective definition of that?"
"Just keep trying, you'll get it."
"But it doesn't work, I don't know how to make it balance."
"You'll figure it out, just keep trying. It won't take long. It's not hard, it's just different."
Some people give in and keep trying and it doesn't take long to get it. These people always end up figuring it out, they just have to put in a bit of time.
Others just give up after a handful of attempts. Some of these people even decide to post a poor review about their unicycle and how it is impossible to use.
I think you all know where I'm going with this. CTE is not hard, it is just different. If you can push aside intimate understanding of everything up front, and instead take the basic shots from the DVD and "go through the motions" using manual pivoting, in a few days to maybe a few weeks you will have markedly good progress. More than likely a few lightbulb moments will happen. Seeing the perceptions over and over and over begin to draw a mental image how these perceptions look at the table. They are different at first, but very quickly the mind picks up on what you are looking for. The perceptions of these test shots spill right over to the zillion shots on the table, so you can quickly implement them into your normal game.
But, (at least in my own experience), you have to be willing to get over this initial hump. There is no amount of explanation that will lead you to the table and "just work", you have to put some time in. Not a lot of time, but some. Kind of like the unicycle.
You can keep the clown jokes to yourself
Everyone knows how to ride a bicycle, but very few know how to ride a unicycle. Bear with me for a moment.
So we decide to learn to unicycle. We get our shiny new unicycle in the mail, along with an instructional video teaching the basics. Great! So we pop the video in and watch. It shows some people riding unicycles, gives some instructions about starting with a foot on the pedal, keep our center of balance over the wheel, keep our arms out to help balance, etc. Ok, GOT IT.
So we head out to the driveway and give this unicycle thing a whirl. On our first attempt, we go a foot and fall over. Hmm, that's somewhat discouraging. No matter, lets try again. Over the course of the next ten attempts, we are able to get both feet planted on the pedals, but getting no more than a couple of feet before we fall off. Better, but hardly "riding".
So we decide to devote 15-30 mins of our time every day. Over the course of the first week, we are making markedly good progress. We can get on the bike and constantly pedal a good 10 feet or so, and we have become much more graceful dismounting when we fall over. After week two, we can pretty much ride this thing in a straight line as far as we want! Hooray! Over the first month we get to the point where we are not really thinking about the balancing any more. We can jump on and just go wherever we want. Over the course of the first six months our balance and intuition get more and more fine tuned, to the point that we are quite comfortable riding the unicycle in a variety of situations (bumpy, muddy, hilly environments.)
Now, lets back up to where we first got our unicycle. We watched the video, we went out on the driveway and succeeded in falling over a few times. So now, we head to the unicycle forum and start asking questions.
"I can't ride this unicycle, what gives?"
"You have to hold your balance over the wheel."
"Can you give me an objective definition of that?"
"Just keep trying, you'll get it."
"But it doesn't work, I don't know how to make it balance."
"You'll figure it out, just keep trying. It won't take long. It's not hard, it's just different."
Some people give in and keep trying and it doesn't take long to get it. These people always end up figuring it out, they just have to put in a bit of time.
Others just give up after a handful of attempts. Some of these people even decide to post a poor review about their unicycle and how it is impossible to use.
I think you all know where I'm going with this. CTE is not hard, it is just different. If you can push aside intimate understanding of everything up front, and instead take the basic shots from the DVD and "go through the motions" using manual pivoting, in a few days to maybe a few weeks you will have markedly good progress. More than likely a few lightbulb moments will happen. Seeing the perceptions over and over and over begin to draw a mental image how these perceptions look at the table. They are different at first, but very quickly the mind picks up on what you are looking for. The perceptions of these test shots spill right over to the zillion shots on the table, so you can quickly implement them into your normal game.
But, (at least in my own experience), you have to be willing to get over this initial hump. There is no amount of explanation that will lead you to the table and "just work", you have to put some time in. Not a lot of time, but some. Kind of like the unicycle.
You can keep the clown jokes to yourself
Good post.
Keep trying.
You can even start off without the offset and pivot.
Lou, I find myself in the strange position of mostly agreeing with you. I will say what you did differently. CTE isn't for everybody. Stan had never said it is. There are other valid and successful ways to aim and play the game. The primary argument CTE users have with others is when they say the system isn't valid and doesn't work. When applied properly, CTE works as advertised.
By the way, congratulations on your success at DCC in one pocket. Quite impressive.
You have no idea how fractional overlaps work...theyre a ball park line of aim. You adjust based on experience to understand how the balls will react and where they will go.
I've said it before and I will say it again. 1 month to post up your highest possible run of the month in 14.1 and I will beat it by at least 50 within 3 days. You can even use your arrow on every shot. Why am I confident I can do this within 3 days? Because I have spent less time working on getting an arrow lined up correctly than I have perfecting my fundamentals and actually playing 14.1.
Again, the patronising and looking down on other posters who don't agree with your beliefs is pathetic.
I've said it before and I will say it again. 1 month to post up your highest possible run of the month in 14.1 and I will beat it by at least 50 within 3 days. You can even use your arrow on every shot. Why am I confident I can do this within 3 days? Because I have spent less time working on getting an arrow lined up correctly than I have perfecting my fundamentals and actually playing 14.1.
Again, the patronising and looking down on other posters who don't agree with your beliefs is pathetic.
Yea we cant do the rest of that stuff. WANNA PLAY SOME?
Stan, I suffer from a visual condition called Aniseikonia. I've had it since birth. Nothing can be done about it. Until about 3 years ago, glasses couldn't even help it. Basically, my two eyes see differently. They produce two different images, both in focus, and in size. A doctor by the name of Peter Shaw came up with a lens system that helps people like me. When I wear the glasses, I nearly get sensory overload. It's similar to someone that has had hearing loss all of their life, and then gets hearing aids. Sometimes, they turn the aids down to settle their head. Similarly, there are days I need to take the glasses off to give my head a break. I've lived with this the past 43 years. I just got the glasses a few months ago.
Your above statement about rules and principles, and those rules not varying from person to person is a pant load. And there's a great amount of research that says so.
shawlens.com
Sounds like you're putting too much Jerk in your stroke!
Hmm....the problem DID get worse in my teenage years.....but I hadn't started playing pool yet. You think THAT may have been my problem?
Having studied Freud and Jung, I'd focus on your relationship with your mother :grin:Hmm....the problem DID get worse in my teenage years.....but I hadn't started playing pool yet. You think THAT may have been my problem?
CTE. Converging Towards oEdipus......
Everyone knows how to ride a bicycle, but very few know how to ride a unicycle. Bear with me for a moment.
So we decide to learn to unicycle. We get our shiny new unicycle in the mail, along with an instructional video teaching the basics. Great! So we pop the video in and watch. It shows some people riding unicycles, gives some instructions about starting with a foot on the pedal, keep our center of balance over the wheel, keep our arms out to help balance, etc. Ok, GOT IT.
So we head out to the driveway and give this unicycle thing a whirl. On our first attempt, we go a foot and fall over. Hmm, that's somewhat discouraging. No matter, lets try again. Over the course of the next ten attempts, we are able to get both feet planted on the pedals, but getting no more than a couple of feet before we fall off. Better, but hardly "riding".
So we decide to devote 15-30 mins of our time every day. Over the course of the first week, we are making markedly good progress. We can get on the bike and constantly pedal a good 10 feet or so, and we have become much more graceful dismounting when we fall over. After week two, we can pretty much ride this thing in a straight line as far as we want! Hooray! Over the first month we get to the point where we are not really thinking about the balancing any more. We can jump on and just go wherever we want. Over the course of the first six months our balance and intuition get more and more fine tuned, to the point that we are quite comfortable riding the unicycle in a variety of situations (bumpy, muddy, hilly environments.)
Now, lets back up to where we first got our unicycle. We watched the video, we went out on the driveway and succeeded in falling over a few times. So now, we head to the unicycle forum and start asking questions.
"I can't ride this unicycle, what gives?"
"You have to hold your balance over the wheel."
"Can you give me an objective definition of that?"
"Just keep trying, you'll get it."
"But it doesn't work, I don't know how to make it balance."
"You'll figure it out, just keep trying. It won't take long. It's not hard, it's just different."
Some people give in and keep trying and it doesn't take long to get it. These people always end up figuring it out, they just have to put in a bit of time.
Others just give up after a handful of attempts. Some of these people even decide to post a poor review about their unicycle and how it is impossible to use.
I think you all know where I'm going with this. CTE is not hard, it is just different. If you can push aside intimate understanding of everything up front, and instead take the basic shots from the DVD and "go through the motions" using manual pivoting, in a few days to maybe a few weeks you will have markedly good progress. More than likely a few lightbulb moments will happen. Seeing the perceptions over and over and over begin to draw a mental image how these perceptions look at the table. They are different at first, but very quickly the mind picks up on what you are looking for. The perceptions of these test shots spill right over to the zillion shots on the table, so you can quickly implement them into your normal game.
But, (at least in my own experience), you have to be willing to get over this initial hump. There is no amount of explanation that will lead you to the table and "just work", you have to put some time in. Not a lot of time, but some. Kind of like the unicycle.
You can keep the clown jokes to yourself
Meanwhile, those of us sitting on the curb watching the parade are left scratching our heads as we watch people on two wheeled bikes stroll right past the unicyclists.
This is an excellent example of learning by "feel" (experience-based subconscious ability). Some things just must be learned this way, even when aided by "objective" instructions. There's nothing wrong with it, and no reason to object strongly to the idea.
CTE is not worse for being an effective aid to learning aiming by feel - if this reality was embraced rather than denied, CTE might be recognized as a widely applicable aiming aid rather than a fringe "aiming system".
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