CTE ... the complete story
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I think I see what you're saying, but you don't want to do that to find the correct edge. You can't see 1 1/8" accurately. The edge is the edge is the edge... it's the perspective that counts.
Also, the edge and the pivot are not related/connected.
I should just make a video and sell it for $70 and make $70k. I wonder what Hal would say if I showed up with a bag of cash at his house?
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Dave...At this point in his life, with his health problems...I think he'd say: "Thanks!" When I went to see Hal, I had to sneak $$$ to his wife. He wouldn't take any from me!
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
10. the dog ate them.
9. I don't speak English.
8. those keys are missing from my keyboard.
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5. [add your own fun excuses here!]
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And the number one reason I'm not posting any specifics is...
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1. they were extracted by the aliens who abducted me.
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pj
chgo
I've heard some CTE users claim the "pivot" is overrated; but from what I have heard and seen, the pivot seems critical to making the system work. Obviously, if you don't pivot from the correct effective point, and if you don't vary this point for different shots, you will miss many shots.
Thank you for your post,
Dave
I'm not posting specifics because....
10. the dog ate them.
9. I don't speak English.
8. those keys are missing from my keyboard.
7.
6.
5. [add your own fun excuses here!]
4.
3.
2.
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And the number one reason I'm not posting any specifics is...
[cymbal crash]
1. I'd sooner have a bots fly larva hatch from my ass than to post info and have it improve PJ's game
[laughter/applause]
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SWC
YRK
10. the dog ate them.
9. I don't speak English.
8. those keys are missing from my keyboard.
7.
6.
5. [add your own fun excuses here!]
4.
3.
2.
[drum roll]
And the number one reason I'm not posting any specifics is...
[cymbal crash]
1. I'd sooner have a bots fly larva hatch from my ass than to post info and have it improve PJ's game
[laughter/applause]
[roll credits]
SWC
YRK
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Lou...Stevie Moore would be on that list, and he doesn't play too bad! Landon Shuffett would be another strong proponent. He may be "just a kid", but he's a several time national champion, and has beaten many top pros, in competition.
Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
OK, two guys. Very good.
But when I think of the hundreds of very accomplished players out there -- to say nothing of all the pros -- you'd have to concede that's a pretty short list.
And, what exactly are you claiming? That Stevie and Landon have been shown CTE... or that Stevie and Landon use CTE... or maybe that Stevie and Landon have written you into their wills because they both think CTE is the greatest thing since sliced bread and they wouldn't be the players they are today because of CTE?
Lou Figueroa
How so? In the version I've heard, it is an integral part of CTE.
Lou Figueroa
musta got
the 2.0 instead of
the 3.1
The pivot is over-rated. You don't have to pivot at all. My comment was specific to a manual on-table pivot -- similar to Busty's. Eventually, you progress into air-pivoting and then you'll end up mastering your bridgehand-spot which pretty much eliminates the pivot completely (this is only effective when you learn how to sight the outermost edge...remember that there are multiple edges for each shot).
You're right - if you manually pivot, you must vary the pivot point or you will miss many shots. The longer the shot, the less variation in pivot points/arcs. The shorter the shot, the more variation. 3 arcs will pocket a huge majority of shots (up to a diamond away). When you get within a diamond (very short range), you have to pay attention to what you're doing. When air pivoting or applying your bridgehand-spot at this close of range, all you do is see the outermost edge....which changes based on distance.
"Outermost edge" is a term you probably never heard of before but you should invest quite a lot of time into figuring it out.
I know a lot of this seems disconnected, but as I said... I'm just dropping enough bread crumbs for someone to figure it out if they put in the time that I have.
You work at a university--- send me stipend and you'll get your research. I don't give lectures for free - especially here with the characters who hang in these cte threads.
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Well then, why is that someone like Walt Harris can compile, explain, and print huge steaming piles of billiard and pool systems in his Billiard Atlas volumes and yet this one little system escapes definition by it's most ardent supporters?
Lou Figueroa
dan't seem right
Whatever version you've heard of is probably like a trivial pursuit piece with only 2 pie pieces in it.
A few friends of mine had nothing but really good things to say about your game. From what I understand, you're really a talented player. What's sad is you're so cocky and shut-off to new info, you'll never learn anything else new beyond what you know today. With someone of your mechanics and execution, this info would turn you into a m-f-ing terminator. It's a shame.
You should leave your back yard and get a lesson from someone who does know. If this info improved your game by a 1/2 ball or ball - wouldn't that be valuable?
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So how's that "list of impressive players" you claimed, coming along
Lou Figueroa
No one uses this CTE Lou, we're just messin with you mate.
Have a good one.
Thanks for the compliments.
I've been playing pool for something like 40 years. I have never claimed to be more than a decent amateur. And over the course of those four decades, I've tried to learn from: other players, DVDs, books, exhibitions, tournaments, money matches, the occasional one-on-one lesson from players like the late Steve Cook, and my own ceaseless ball pounding on the green felt.
So for you to say I'm cocky or shut off to new info is grossly unfair.
I have taken a look at CTE with an open mind and the desire to learn. And I have come to the conclusion that it doesn't really work, on its face, or for the reasons some think. IOW, there is no 1/2 ball or ball improvement there for me. That does not mean that I don't think it works for some people and/or can improve their game, or can be used a crutch. And that's OK.
So far, the bestest explanation for why it works for some and not others, is PJ's placebo explanation. I hadn't really thought of that one before, and it's, hmmm, well, "new info." So see, I'm not shut off to new ideas. Maybe you just don't like the new info I embrace
Lou Figueroa
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Couldn't come up with a list, eh?
G'day.
Lou Figueroa
suddenly in the mood
for shrimp on the barbie
Whether you "air pivot" or "table pivot," it still sounds like the pivot is critical to making CTE work. It seems like this is where the fine tuning (the actual aiming) takes place. Most people can place their bridge and align the cue fairly close to the necessary line of a shot (i.e., "get into the ballpark"). The tough part is the fine tuning.
You have it backwards. Research is done at universities when outside entities provide research funding. Money doesn't flow out of a university, only in. If you win the lottery and want to fund a CTE study, let me know.
Catch you later,
Dave
There Lou, with my failure to come up with a list you have proven that CTE does not work. I have blown the joke
Oh well, guess there is no more need for this thread to continue but I'm sure you'll want to keep picking even though you figured it out. You seem like a great guy Lou, take care and God bless.