Cue Lathe from Cowboy Billiards

i unfortunately bought one of these lathes with the thought of learning tip replacement and shaft reconditioning, boy did i get suckered! the "drive cups" not only are the wrong size but mine were also not center drilled. anything i put in them wobbled horribly. the 1/3 horse motor mentioned will not keep a shaft spinning fast enough to even clean much less anything heavier! the rollers, no matter how much tape i used still marked the shaft with burn marks and a couple were left with grooves in the wood. the bearings sling so much grease out it's not funny. in short, i got taken. i ended up giving it away to someone after fair warning who wanted to try to re engineer it. i bought one of chris hightower's micro lathes and have not looked back since. my advice - stay away from cowboy billiards "lathe"

Mike
Does not suprise me!!!
 
I know I'm just a lurker, however I've looked around at various lathes, including the cowboy version. I definitly won't be a customer of anyone who publicly calls someone an idiot, regardless of who's right or wrong! Chris Hightower! FTW! I'm ordering his all his videos and books soon!
 
I'm ordering his all his videos and books soon!
That would be your first best move. Even if you don't buy a lathe or you do sometime down the road, the knowledge and insight to cuemaking is invaluable and will stay with you forever.
 
I made the mistake of buying the steady rest for my sanding lathe. The wheels left a black mark as soon as they touched the test shaft I was using to check it out. I'm glad I had the smarts to try it first on a test piece, good thing.
The 'steady' rest was so poorly designed and made, that it shook while turning, even though the base was secured and all screws were tight. For $45 plus shipping, I learned that his self-manufactured stuff is junk, pure and simple. I didn't even bother to leave feedback, or complain. I did read his feedback tonite though, and it seems that there are a few unhappy people in his world, and to read his responses is a reminder of a guy from Fla.
Atleast now his ad states to use a piece of tape or collet, and he includes a shaft collar...'free' even though there's no collet or tape on the butt or shaft in his pictures in the ad, LOL He actually calls it a 'Professional' lathe roller rest, well, if that's what he calls pro, I hate to see what he calls junk.....
For what he charges, he should at least run spellcheck on his ads, as making that many spelling errors, makes the product look, well,.....shoddy?
That's my opinion of the 'Pro' equipment I bought from him.
Dave
 
I made the mistake of buying the steady rest for my sanding lathe. The wheels left a black mark as soon as they touched the test shaft I was using to check it out. I'm glad I had the smarts to try it first on a test piece, good thing.
The 'steady' rest was so poorly designed and made, that it shook while turning, even though the base was secured and all screws were tight. For $45 plus shipping, I learned that his self-manufactured stuff is junk, pure and simple. I didn't even bother to leave feedback, or complain. I did read his feedback tonite though, and it seems that there are a few unhappy people in his world, and to read his responses is a reminder of a guy from Fla.
Atleast now his ad states to use a piece of tape or collet, and he includes a shaft collar...'free' even though there's no collet or tape on the butt or shaft in his pictures in the ad, LOL He actually calls it a 'Professional' lathe roller rest, well, if that's what he calls pro, I hate to see what he calls junk.....
For what he charges, he should at least run spellcheck on his ads, as making that many spelling errors, makes the product look, well,.....shoddy?
That's my opinion of the 'Pro' equipment I bought from him.
Dave

OK, check this out....

Shaft collar = 1/2" of cheap plastic tubing
Drive cup = rubber chair foot + bolt + nut.

Rubber chair foot? Yes, like this: http://www.allglides.com/rubberfeet1.html

I couldn't make that up. I never would have thought of using something like that, drilling a hole and putting a bolt through it and calling it a 'drive cup'. The best part is that the 'cup' is still too big. You still have to use something like a zip tie to tighten it up.
 
Well, actually I've seen a cue repairman use exactly that and it worked ok for him. Of course, he wasn't a rinky dink kinda guy either and his was built well enuff. Works ok for the average repairman that doesn't want to buy a bunch of maintenance pins for weird pin sizes that he may only use on rare occasion. Cuetec for one.
 
Well, actually I've seen a cue repairman use exactly that and it worked ok for him. Of course, he wasn't a rinky dink kinda guy either and his was built well enuff. Works ok for the average repairman that doesn't want to buy a bunch of maintenance pins for weird pin sizes that he may only use on rare occasion. Cuetec for one.

Funny thing, he includes a set of those claiming a retail value of $16.95. I think he misplaced the decimal point. :grin:

I think when I bought one earlier this year he was claiming something ridiculous like $30.
 
OK, check this out....

Shaft collar = 1/2" of cheap plastic tubing
Drive cup = rubber chair foot + bolt + nut.

Rubber chair foot? Yes, like this: http://www.allglides.com/rubberfeet1.html

I couldn't make that up. I never would have thought of using something like that, drilling a hole and putting a bolt through it and calling it a 'drive cup'. The best part is that the 'cup' is still too big. You still have to use something like a zip tie to tighten it up.


So you didnt get the complimentary Zip Tie? Man, you sure got ROBBED:rolleyes:
 
OK, check this out....

Shaft collar = 1/2" of cheap plastic tubing
Drive cup = rubber chair foot + bolt + nut.

Rubber chair foot? Yes, like this: http://www.allglides.com/rubberfeet1.html

I couldn't make that up. I never would have thought of using something like that, drilling a hole and putting a bolt through it and calling it a 'drive cup'. The best part is that the 'cup' is still too big. You still have to use something like a zip tie to tighten it up.

Hightower sells 3/8" Drive pins for $12 or $50 a set. There stainless steel too very high quality.

http://www.cuesmith.com/index.php?menu2=menu_accessories&page=accessories
 
I believe you J, thats exactly what hes selling them for.
Take a guess at how many table leg rubbers or cane tips and bolts you can buy for $16.95.
 
OK, check this out....

Shaft collar = 1/2" of cheap plastic tubing
Drive cup = rubber chair foot + bolt + nut.

Rubber chair foot? Yes, like this: http://www.allglides.com/rubberfeet1.html

I couldn't make that up. I never would have thought of using something like that, drilling a hole and putting a bolt through it and calling it a 'drive cup'. The best part is that the 'cup' is still too big. You still have to use something like a zip tie to tighten it up.

not only did i not get a complimentary zip tie, but the hole through the chair foot was drilled off center so the whole thing was useless to me. i called and talked to bob about this and he basically told me i was full of sh*t. will never consider doing business with them again

Mike
 
So you didnt get the complimentary Zip Tie? Man, you sure got ROBBED:rolleyes:
That reminds me of when I worked for a guy who had a small retail shop selling dart and pool supplies. He said " Joe, I need a couple of short cues made up for table sales." I told him I would take some bar cues out to the shop and make them about fifty inches long, he goes watch this, grabs a hack saw, chops off the shaft about 8" from the end, puts a 14mm slip on tip on it and says, " see, thats how you make a short cue the right way!" I thought, wtf are you nuts!!
 
That reminds me of when I worked for a guy who had a small retail shop selling dart and pool supplies. He said " Joe, I need a couple of short cues made up for table sales." I told him I would take some bar cues out to the shop and make them about fifty inches long, he goes watch this, grabs a hack saw, chops off the shaft about 8" from the end, puts a 14mm slip on tip on it and says, " see, thats how you make a short cue the right way!" I thought, wtf are you nuts!!

No, I think your boss was thinking outside the box....he prolly sells cues for midgets now:grin:
 
I didn't buy the lathe but I did buy the steady rest from Bob. I had a drill/crutch tip spinner I had been using for about 4 months but needed something to hold the shaft (besides my left hand and a towel). Before I used the steady rest I bought some plastic tubing of the right inside diameter from Home Depot to use as a collet. For me, this set-up worked perfectly. Bob, at least you have one satisfied customer.
 
I didn't buy the lathe but I did buy the steady rest from Bob. I had a drill/crutch tip spinner I had been using for about 4 months but needed something to hold the shaft (besides my left hand and a towel). Before I used the steady rest I bought some plastic tubing of the right inside diameter from Home Depot to use as a collet. For me, this set-up worked perfectly. Bob, at least you have one satisfied customer.

Hi,

I use one as a steady rest on a mini lathe. I use this lathe for ferrules only and I made up some delrin collets to get around the hard rollers. I could not have built a unit for $ 50.00 considering my time.

I like my Cowboy steady rest and recommend it. I just bought a 2nd yesterday on ebay for another lathe set up.

Rick G
 
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