Cuemaker keeping a customer's cue

If any of you fellows have the right idea about this I would be glad it was confiscated and just hope the real cuemaker might replace the fake with one of his super playing real deal cues for the trouble. Wouldn't that be sweet.--Leonard
 
Whopper

This has got to be a Mt. Fuji-whopper sized story.
I think we've been had.

Unless the alleged builder is using the fake to convert it into a fake-real conversion cue, only then it could be confiscated by the original builder as a real-fake.

Does the cue have a logo?
 
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I would file a lawsuit for the cue, or the value of the cue, plus legal fees for doing so. The cuemaker has no right to keep the cue. He can, although, take pictures of the cue, document it that it is an infringment, and pursue suing the maker of the fake cue.

Most cuemakers are NOT aware of any legal implications, and have a tendency to do what THEY think is right, but it is not always within the confines of the law.

BTW, my brother is an attorney ..... LOL
 
junkbond said:
There's a word for what the cue maker did: it's "theft."
He has no legal right to keep your friend's cue.
Any chance you can tell us who the cue maker is?
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If the cue was sent in for authentication and it turned out not to be authentic then that was the purpose for sending the cue to him to start with. What gives the cue maker the right to keep the cue......He has NO RIGHT to keep it at all and if it was mine i'd be trying everything I could to get it back.....

James
 
The story doesnt add up at all. The only reason I can think of for a cuemaker to "keep" a cue would be if it had been stolen from its original owner. Is it possible your friend bought the cue from someone who might have gotten it illegally or bought it hot? The cuemaker should be upfront about it.... but again... this story just doesnt add up.
Chuck
 
Fuji-whopper said:
A friend of mine sent in a cue to get authenticated and have some work done to it, they said it was a fake and so they "confiscated" it. Have you ever heard of such a thing?

It's not like they have a patent on the design or technology, EVERYONE copies these particular cues all day every day. What do you think my friend should do?
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Where did you friend sent the Cue, and too whom. Who "confiscated" it.
 
RiverCity said:
The story doesnt add up at all. The only reason I can think of for a cuemaker to "keep" a cue would be if it had been stolen from its original owner. Is it possible your friend bought the cue from someone who might have gotten it illegally or bought it hot? The cuemaker should be upfront about it.... but again... this story just doesnt add up.
Chuck
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Agreed, just isnt adding up and the details are pretty vague
 
zy112 said:
Agreed, just isnt adding up and the details are pretty vague
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Sorry for being vague the cuemaker is probably one of the most copied cues on the market and the logo is on a metal part of the cue, they are expensive and hard to come by. I know them personally and have for years which is why I don't want to name names.

I really just wanted some feedback or to see if there is someone else that went through this type of ordeal, in particular I was hoping for a collector or high end cue specialist to chime in. I'm not happy about how my friend is being treated but I don't want to start a war either.
 
kinda wonder

Fuji-whopper said:
Sorry for being vague the cuemaker is probably one of the most copied cues on the market and the logo is on a metal part of the cue, they are expensive and hard to come by. I know them personally and have for years which is why I don't want to name names.

I really just wanted some feedback or to see if there is someone else that went through this type of ordeal, in particular I was hoping for a collector or high end cue specialist to chime in. I'm not happy about how my friend is being treated but I don't want to start a war either.
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Neil,

One thing I can't help wondering is if the cue maker has actually kept the cue or has turned it over to one legal authority or another as evidence in a case. While I don't think the cue maker can just decide to keep the cue he may be fully entitled to provide it as evidence to pursue a case against the maker of the fake cue, assuming it is fake.

Hu
 
fake or not

fake or not fake : i would want my cue back.if i sent a cue for repair or what ever, and if that person had a problem with my cue i would want it
returned to me . after all i am the legal owner. i think that is a cheap
shot. thats just what i think about that john107: anderson sc
 
They definately do not have a right to keep it unless they are going to replace it. Remove the markings, but send the cue back to the actual owner!
 
FUGI,

Your friend needs to smell the coffee. How many cues would B. SZAM, PETE, LAURIE, etc., keep that fail the microscope and caliper test. I'm gonna give you a clue, NONE, ZIP, ZERO, NADA. What they would do is decline to authenticate it and probably decline the opportunity to work on it.

Assuming this went down as described just get the cue back. The "maker" has no right to it.
 
A cuemaker has zero jurisdiction over something. If it is evidence in a case then the police must take it and give a receipt or copy of the police report in case of confiscating a cue. But copyright laws are federal. Sounds fishy to me.
 
If the cuemaker has a current patent on some part of the cue that was copied and/or protected by his patent , once in his posesion he may actually have a right to confiscate or destroy it.
 
RRfireblade said:
If the cuemaker has a current patent on some part of the cue that was copied and/or protected by his patent , once in his posesion he may actually have a right to confiscate or destroy it.
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No, he doesn't. He can seek legal recourse to have it confiscated, but "confiscating" it himself is THEFT. He has a legal obligation to return the cue to its rightful owner.
 
Logo on the metal part of the cue? Copied often? Keeps referring to the cuemaker as 'them'? South West??


No matter how you slice it, 'they' have no right whatsoever to keep the cue without offering some sort of compensation. Otherwise, its theft plain and simple.
 
Fuji-whopper said:
Sorry for being vague the cuemaker is probably one of the most copied cues on the market and the logo is on a metal part of the cue, they are expensive and hard to come by. I know them personally and have for years which is why I don't want to name names.

I really just wanted some feedback or to see if there is someone else that went through this type of ordeal, in particular I was hoping for a collector or high end cue specialist to chime in. I'm not happy about how my friend is being treated but I don't want to start a war either.
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As others here have mentioned, if it's stolen that's another story, but the cuemaker has NO RIGHT to confiscate the cue. And if it's who you have alluded to here in this thread, I'm very surprised. :confused:
 
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