Cuemakers nightmare!

ratcues

ratcues

Theewen Custom Cues
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I am working on a very old Meucci. The collars are all broke loose and the butt cap was exploded. I was replacing the shaft collar when I got some super glue on my fingers. I did not know that it was on my fingers! I grabbed the shaft to press the collar on and the realized that I was now glued to a Meucci.....and glued well. It took a few minutes, acetone, and a little help from Downey to pry my finger off and I left some skin on the shaft. There is nothing worse than being glued to a Meucci.
 
ratcues said:
I am working on a very old Meucci. The collars are all broke loose and the butt cap was exploded. I was replacing the shaft collar when I got some super glue on my fingers. I did not know that it was on my fingers! I grabbed the shaft to press the collar on and the realized that I was now glued to a Meucci.....and glued well. It took a few minutes, acetone, and a little help from Downey to pry my finger off and I left some skin on the shaft. There is nothing worse than being glued to a Meucci.
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I don't know about that. You might want to ask the guy on the Sopranos about it.:D
Purdman:cool:
 
Cuemakers nightmare

Could be worse, you could have been glued to Bob himself and then have to listen to him for hours on end.:eek: :eek: :eek:
 
ratcues said:
I am working on a very old Meucci. The collars are all broke loose and the butt cap was exploded. I was replacing the shaft collar when I got some super glue on my fingers. I did not know that it was on my fingers! I grabbed the shaft to press the collar on and the realized that I was now glued to a Meucci.....and glued well. It took a few minutes, acetone, and a little help from Downey to pry my finger off and I left some skin on the shaft. There is nothing worse than being glued to a Meucci.
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In the first place, you're using the wrong type of adhesive for the job. The only place on a cue I use super glue (or glues of that type) are for installing tips. Epoxy is much better for most of the construction phases and doesn't give you these problems.

just more hot air!

Sherm
 
cuesmith said:
In the first place, you're using the wrong type of adhesive for the job. The only place on a cue I use super glue (or glues of that type) are for installing tips. Epoxy is much better for most of the construction phases and doesn't give you these problems.

just more hot air!

Sherm
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TAP....TAP....TAP....
 
cuesmith said:
In the first place, you're using the wrong type of adhesive for the job. The only place on a cue I use super glue (or glues of that type) are for installing tips. Epoxy is much better for most of the construction phases and doesn't give you these problems.

just more hot air!

Sherm
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I'll stick with my super glue on the Meucci. Epoxy doesn't stick well to plastic.
 
ratcues said:
I'll stick with my super glue
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You & I are friends Rat...but keep the superglue for strickly tips. You are going to scare off potential customers with statements like that. I agree with Cueman. There is a correct adhesive for every step...and it ain't CA.;)
 
Yeah, slow cure 2 ton works great, I've glued quite a few of them back together with It, and none have come loose thus far. I get alot of those buttsleeves in to fix for people. Even had an old one that the owner of a place kept in his kitchen while he was'nt shooting with It, the cue somehow soaked alot of grease into it sitting in there over time, working the glue into an almost taffy like state, and the handle joint unscrewed coming loose. I'm sure the heat and humidity played a part also. I cleaned It out well, glued It back together with 2 ton, and It held with no problems. I was afraid the grease would be a problem, but apparently I cleaned It well enough, and the epoxy grabbed better then I expected under those circumstances.

Greg
 
Purdman said:
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I don't know about that. You might want to ask the guy on the Sopranos about it.:D
Purdman:cool:
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Heh
Heard one of the Soprano guys is designing cues - could have a good time with names for it "anything for a buck" or "hit him & kill him" or -----
 
Funny thing the Soprano guy in question ,"Vito" (Joseph Gannascoli), was at the Baltimore BCA show. He was there with a cuemaker that was making him a cue.
 
Varney Cues said:
You & I are friends Rat...but keep the superglue for strickly tips. You are going to scare off potential customers with statements like that. I agree with Cueman. There is a correct adhesive for every step...and it ain't CA.;)
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I have to respectfully disagree with you guys on the CA. We had a company in Omaha test the strengths of glues on different materials and the super glue that we use rated better than epoxy on the plastic.

I guarantee my work. If you break it under normal playing conditions, I'll eat it. :cool:
 
Maybe I should clarify something. I use 2 ton on my cues and any other types of porous materials. I only use the CA with plastics and sometimes tips. Does that sound better?
 
ratcues said:
I have to respectfully disagree with you guys on the CA. We had a company in Omaha test the strengths of glues on different materials and the super glue that we use rated better than epoxy on the plastic.

I guarantee my work. If you break it under normal playing conditions, I'll eat it. :cool:
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With near Zero clearance and Zero shock I would think Super Glue might be better. But I groove all tenons to allow them to hold some glue and have glued many Meucci rings on with 2 Ton and had no problems. Super Glues do not hold up well under shock. So I would think a tight slipped on ring would be more likely to come loose with Super Glue than one put on with two ton using grooves in the tenon. But I know cuemakers who use Super Glue to glue on their ferrules and they get by with it. So super glue glues plastic to plastic great. But what about plastic to wood. That is when I think the epoxy would be better. But I also know people who glue rings on with gorilla glue, which defies all the logic I can muster up, yet it works for them. There are more ways to build cues than one. Who knows what is best.
Chris
www.hightowercues.com
www.internationalcuemakers.com
 
ratcues said:
I am working on a very old Meucci. The collars are all broke loose and the butt cap was exploded. I was replacing the shaft collar when I got some super glue on my fingers. I did not know that it was on my fingers! I grabbed the shaft to press the collar on and the realized that I was now glued to a Meucci.....and glued well. It took a few minutes, acetone, and a little help from Downey to pry my finger off and I left some skin on the shaft. There is nothing worse than being glued to a Meucci.
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Actually there is nothing worst than leaving a DNA Finger Print at the scene of the crime:eek: :D :D !!!!!!!!!
 
manwon said:
Actually there is nothing worst than leaving a DNA Finger Print at the scene of the crime:eek: :D :D !!!!!!!!!
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Might be a good method of DNA authentification If it was one of his cues Instead of repair work:D
 
ratcues said:
Maybe I should clarify something. I use 2 ton on my cues and any other types of porous materials. I only use the CA with plastics and sometimes tips. Does that sound better?
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I understand the reasoning, and if it works for you I say do what works. The important thing is that you warranty as you mentioned. Alot of us do things that others might not do theirselves or don't aggree with. We each have our own methods that work for us.

I guess I have no issues with the initial bonding strenth of ca, and My thoughts are sort of inline with what Chris said, but to add to the shock part- I don't have facts to back this up, but some ca's seem to get more brittle as time goes on to me. I have heard that when glueing some plastics to plastic It can be a strong bond, just not sure about wood to plastic or how well they will last the duration. Like I mentioned, no facts, so I can't say your doing anything wrong. I just do It a different way is all.:)

Greg
 
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